Now that Thrunite has released the Neutron 1A with XM-L and creating one of the biggest understatements of lumens I have ever seen (over 200+ OTF lumens on AA when they only claim 140), how long do you think it will be before XM-l in 1xaa will trickle down to the budget category?
We havent seen XP-G in any great numbers as yet , you would think AAA and AA would be ripe for the XP-G ...
So how long for the XM-L , problem is stock piles of old emitters , lots and lots of old outdated emitters out there ..
Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….
AA batteries can hardly give 2.5W, XML sucks up to 10W. And there is not big difference between XML and XPG-R5 both at 3W
"no le temo a la oscuridad, la oscuridad me teme a mí"
The thrunite puts up insane test numbers so someone figured something out where an XM-L can give signicantly more output on a single AA than an XP-G.
problem is stock piles of old emitters,how long do you think
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Oh dear ! , took a good 12 months for XP-G to filter down to AA and AAA lights .. [ ecconomy lights ]
Im still waiting for ITP XP-G R5 to be available mainstream ...
Too many variables , but just depends on what the manufacturer is sitting on ... Look at all the XRE-Q5 lights out there
+ What Cree wants for the Emitters , if cree is dumping cheap Q5 etc emitters into the market , then manufacturers may be less inclined to put in more expensive emitters ..
The margin on the budget lights cant be very high ...
Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….
Which driver is that?
I hope this one.
Thanks
Weird an item with a full discription at KD!
If it has same output at lower levels
and isn't any more efficient
and color /tint hasn't caught up
then ..I guess I don't care
I have a 350 lumen xpg aa/14500
what it needs more than a few more lumens for the. wow factor is a very low low instead
at some point you have to have a mix of runtime and output
or just jump to a bigger battery / bigger light
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The XM-L is very slightly brighter (but not noticeably so) than the XP-G at up to 700mA, which is about the maximum current one can expect from a 1xAA configuration.
But maybe XM-L would be preferred over XP-G and XR-E for its beam pattern and for its lower thermal resistance?
the only way to get full power with xm-l and aa size are use aw 14500 imr
my favorite mods:
9 xm-l usb: http://forolinternas.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4290
10 xm-l poquet size: http://www.forolinternas.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1932
6 xm-l http://forolinternas.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4100
Theres no reason it has to be an AW IMR, any high current IMR will do.
There are cheaper options - but they probably won't run as long.
The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...
Zebralight SC51 pulls 200 lumens off a single aa nimh and lasts about 46 minutes. The Thrunite Neutron 1a may run as high as 240 lumens on a single aa nimh and goes 44 minutes. The Fenix LD10 R4 will do about 150 lumens on a nimh and last about an hour.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?311559-Thrunite-Neutron-Series-(XM-L)-1C-2C-1A-2A-Review-RUNTIMES-BEAMSHOTS-and-more! The 1xaa figures are about 2/3 down.
That Neutron looks awesome.
thankssirjohnFoy
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I put an XML in a Romisen RC-G2 and run it direct drive with a 14500.
I get 2.3 Amps to the LED but only run it for short periods. If you need a lot of light for a limited time it is ideal.
I would LOVE a 14500 powered XM-L! Would make a great little pocket rocket as long as it has at least 3 good modes.
Wow, now that is enticing! I think I'll be getting a black XM-L in neutral once the first reviews come in. I wonder how difficult it is to get a clip onto that. Does anyone have one of these Xeno E03's?
I had a look around, but I can't find a photo of this light taken apart. I wondered if it was possible to reverse the tube and have those fins at the head end, I guess someone is just going to have to get one and tell us
got a red one in cool white on the way. quite quick response already got tracking, ordered last night.
03/04/16
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from the look of it.. California.
OK so I got the 14mm XML from Shiningbeam in the mail this week and I checked and it will fit perfectly in my R5-A3 with the strobe delete mod, my current amp draw.
Tail cap draw with freshly charged trust fire flame 14500.
High 1.648 amps
Med .467 amps
Low .168 amps
I think the low will not be low enough, but I could live with that. Does anyone want to guess what the max lumens on high will be?
Thanks,
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I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.
I could not resist. I mounted the 14mm XML T6 from Shiningbeam, it fits perfect.
http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-253/**NEW**-Cree-XM-dsh-L-T6/Detail
Something weird happened when I went to check amperage at the tailcap with a freshly charged Trustfire flame 14500 at 4.135V I got:
1.813amps on high
.533amps on medium
.194 amps on low
It's pretty bright, the hotspot is bigger but with about the same brightness and a lot more flood. The low mode is acceptable. So if you buy the KD version of this light for $14, the Shiningbeam emitter for $11 and do the strobe delete mod for free you get a pretty sweet light for $25. The other strange thing is the light does not seam to heat up as fast or as much.
I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.
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