How long before we see XM-L in 1xaa budget lights?

LED Flashlights – General Info 1 x AA / 1 x 14500 Flashlights
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Now that Thrunite has released the Neutron 1A with XM-L and creating one of the biggest understatements of lumens I have ever seen (over 200+ OTF lumens on AA when they only claim 140), how long do you think it will be before XM-l in 1xaa will trickle down to the budget category?

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We havent seen XP-G in any great numbers as yet , you would think AAA and AA would be ripe for the XP-G ...

So how long for the XM-L , problem is stock piles of old emitters , lots and lots of old outdated emitters out there ..

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AA batteries can hardly give 2.5W, XML sucks up to 10W. And there is not big difference between XML and XPG-R5 both at 3W

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The thrunite puts up insane test numbers so someone figured something out where an XM-L can give signicantly more output on a single AA than an XP-G.

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problem is stock piles of old emitters,how long do you think

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Oh dear ! , took a good 12 months for XP-G to filter down to AA and AAA lights .. [ ecconomy lights ]

Im still waiting for ITP XP-G R5 to be available mainstream ...

Too many variables , but just depends on what the manufacturer is sitting on ... Look at all the XRE-Q5 lights out there

+ What Cree wants for the Emitters , if cree is dumping cheap Q5 etc emitters into the market , then manufacturers may be less inclined to put in more expensive emitters ..

The margin on the budget lights cant be very high ...

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Just ordered a Thrunite Neutral Neutron 1c light last night. It really has incredible test results. I also plan to build a L2r with a powerful boost driver I got from KD. Lets see how Neutron will compare.

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Which driver is that?

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I hope this one.

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Thanks :)

Weird an item with a full discription at KD! :P

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If it has same output at lower levels

and isn't any more efficient

and color /tint hasn't caught up

then ..I guess I don't care

I have a 350 lumen xpg aa/14500

what it needs more than a few more lumens for the. wow factor is a very low low instead

at some point you have to have a mix of runtime and output

or just jump to a bigger battery / bigger light

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I know it’s not budget but I have Quark Mini 123 XML. 1 x CR123 with a claimed 210 lumens OTF. Probably 180 ANSI but runs a little over an hour on high. How long could a similarly driven 1 x AA run?
learningcurveFoy

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The XM-L is very slightly brighter (but not noticeably so) than the XP-G at up to 700mA, which is about the maximum current one can expect from a 1xAA configuration.

But maybe XM-L would be preferred over XP-G and XR-E for its beam pattern and for its lower thermal resistance?

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the only way to get full power with xm-l and aa size are use aw 14500 imr

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Theres no reason it has to be an AW IMR, any high current IMR will do.

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There are cheaper options - but they probably won't run as long.

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Zebralight SC51 pulls 200 lumens off a single aa nimh and lasts about 46 minutes. The Thrunite Neutron 1a may run as high as 240 lumens on a single aa nimh and goes 44 minutes. The Fenix LD10 R4 will do about 150 lumens on a nimh and last about an hour.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?311559-Thrunite-Neutron-Series-(XM-L)-1C-2C-1A-2A-Review-RUNTIMES-BEAMSHOTS-and-more! The 1xaa figures are about 2/3 down.

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That Neutron looks awesome.

thankssirjohnFoy

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I put an XML in a Romisen RC-G2 and run it direct drive with a 14500.

I get 2.3 Amps to the LED but only run it for short periods. If you need a lot of light for a limited time it is ideal.

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I would LOVE a 14500 powered XM-L! Would make a great little pocket rocket as long as it has at least 3 good modes.