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Darn you guys!! |( I ordered in NW, so now you forced me to request a change to CW… before I swap in XML2’s later on. Big Smile

After they run out, this might be the end of the venerable BTU. Only 7 left…

Actually, if you check out the package deal with charger and batteries, there’s 96 more.
Ric might start selling those lights by itself when he starts to see it move.
Who knows, 96 is still quite a bit. Another price drop is possible.

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I reduce the count to 5 left Silly

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Don’t you guys hate missing a great deal about as bad as I do? I guess seeing others take the plunge makes it that much more psychologically correct to do so and ever so much more rewarding justifying the submit payment button.

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Quantity showed 2 left so I placed a panic order. Quantity now shows 10 left in stock. Oh well, at least I finally made a decision.

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I think Ric's trick with showing dwindling qty remaining is working... Smile

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BTU shocker NW review: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/15966

BTU shocker CW review: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/16088

I’m still hesitating on getting one, even though I have no real throwers bar my N30 HID (which does around 250 kcd). I would probably go with neutral white, even though there seems to be around a 15-20% output drop (the readings in the NW review are a bit underestimated).

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RedForest UK wrote:
I would probably go with neutral white, even though there seems to be around a 15-20% output drop

That's one reason why I love my NW Shocker: It's bright enough! I don't need to think if I lose some lumens or candelas because of NW. Of course there's small difference, but you won't really notice it without comparing to another Shocker.

I think it should be marketed like Rolls-Royce:
- Lumens: Enough
- Throw: Enough

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Or what does Mr. Admin think? Is the NW enough, or would you like to have some more lumens?

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Oh the heat I’m feeling!!! Guys, this is awful! Really!

So should I do the DRY driver or BTU and why?

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Rusty Joe wrote:
Oh the heat I’m feeling!!! Guys, this is awful! Really!

So should I do the DRY driver or BTU and why?

I would go BTU for good regulation and no PWM. I doubt the DRY driver nets enough additional output to be worth the negatives (low frequency PWM, unregulated) or even enough to be noticeable.
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Rusty Joe wrote:
Oh the heat I’m feeling!!! Guys, this is awful! Really!

So should I do the DRY driver or BTU and why?

Just get your hurting over with and buy the damn thing. LOL!

Cool white BTU Driver is what I got. That seems to be the best going on the comments here.

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Slim Pickens wrote:
Rusty Joe wrote:
Oh the heat I’m feeling!!! Guys, this is awful! Really!

So should I do the DRY driver or BTU and why?

I would go BTU for good regulation and no PWM. I doubt the DRY driver nets enough additional output to be worth the negatives (low frequency PWM, unregulated) or even enough to be noticeable.

So that PWM is really noticeable?

sweating

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Rusty Joe wrote:
Slim Pickens wrote:
Rusty Joe wrote:
Oh the heat I’m feeling!!! Guys, this is awful! Really!

So should I do the DRY driver or BTU and why?

I would go BTU for good regulation and no PWM. I doubt the DRY driver nets enough additional output to be worth the negatives (low frequency PWM, unregulated) or even enough to be noticeable.

So that PWM is really noticeable?

sweating


DrJones says 260Hz on low for the DRY driver, but I’ve read some posts alluding to 700Hz, which is still slow if you’re PWM-sensitive or just don’t like having visible PWM.*

I think you’ll be happy with the BTU driver Wink

*For context, the SR King’s Low mode is 178Hz PWM and impossible to not notice, and the ever-popular 8xAMC Nanjg105c variants have (something like) 4000Hz PWM for modes which is for the most part unnoticeable. Hope that helps!

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My last objection is that if I don’t get the DRY driver with turbo, this won’t be as much of a use, given its weight and identical output to my King. It would just have the throw. I don’t know if I can justify that.

This is painful!

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I know, I’m on the fence too. Problem is that it’s not a fence I knew I’d be straddling right now. It’s wicked tempting.

On the bright side one can easily mod the thing or have somebody mod it to kick the King’s butt in raw output.

Edit- Thankfully I don’t have to worry about buying it because my ISP has decided it can’t find the FancyFlashlights site (or CNQualitygoods for that matter). Fortitude by proxy is better than nothing.

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I think its a stretch to consider output “identical” to the King. The NW review said it’s about the same as… That is not identical.

Shocker has tons more throw. With tons of overall output. It puts the TK75 to shame out the box, and can be modded even better. I understand the comparisons to the King since they are both triple XML, driven pretty hard. But you really can’t group them together as that similar. It’s the combination of both mega output and throw that is so unique and awesome with the Shocker. It’s pretty easy to have tons of throw OR output. Lots of [cheaper] options for one or the other.

I like copper

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Haterade wrote:
I think its a stretch to consider output “identical” to the King. The NW review said it’s about the same as… That is not identical.

Shocker has tons more throw. With tons of overall output. It puts the TK75 to shame out the box, and can be modded even better. I understand the comparisons to the King since they are both triple XML, driven pretty hard. But you really can’t group them together as that similar. It’s the combination of both mega output and throw that is so unique and awesome with the Shocker. It’s pretty easy to have tons of throw OR output. Lots of [cheaper] options for one or the other.

OK, so a BTU driver-equipped Shocker would have more output than a CW King? If so, by how much? I’d love to justify this enough to pull the trigger.

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The CW BTU in stock form is already about 600 lumens over the original SRK (2200otf) and at least double the throw. Buy it Joe. At this price I promise you wont regret it. Later you can get it modded and very few led lights will touch it in combination of flood and throw.

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manxbuggy1 wrote:
very few led lights will touch it in combination of flood and throw.

that was my point

I am just going off what I have read, I don’t have a shocker. I do have a King clone FWIW.

I like copper

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Haterade wrote:
manxbuggy1 wrote:
very few led lights will touch it in combination of flood and throw.

that was my point

I am just going off what I have read, I don’t have a shocker. I do have a King clone FWIW.

I saw your post saying basically the same thing after I posted. Evidently I type too slow. Three posts showed up in the time I was typing my reply. Lol.

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Joe - As manxbuggy1 and Haterade said... But also the new stock Shocker comes with an AR lens which it didn't have originally, so the new BTU driver/CW ones I've been testing stock are doing over 3,000 lumens - 800 over the king, and the throw, for get a bout it.

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Joe – As manxbuggy1 and Haterade said… But also the new stock Shocker comes with an AR lens which it didn’t have originally, so the new BTU driver/CW ones I’ve been testing stock are doing over 3,000 lumens – 800 over the king, and the throw, for get a bout it.

Fine. I can resist no longer.

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Rusty Joe wrote:
Tom E wrote:

Joe – As manxbuggy1 and Haterade said… But also the new stock Shocker comes with an AR lens which it didn’t have originally, so the new BTU driver/CW ones I’ve been testing stock are doing over 3,000 lumens – 800 over the king, and the throw, for get a bout it.


Fine. I can resist no longer.

Batteries. Dont forget batteries.

 

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@ Rusty Joe…..

Buy the friggin’ thing!!!!!

It will put pretty much any light to shame, including the ‘king’.

..the ‘king’ is dead, long live the king.

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Maybe the MT-G2 version is coming……. Big Smile

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Maybe the MT-G2 version is coming……. Big Smile
I want one off those but if it was it wont be $99.00. :_(

 

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I just ordered one, Cool white BTU Driver. Now the wait is on!!

 

 

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rikr wrote:
I just ordered one, Cool white BTU Driver. Now the wait is on!!

You could’nt resist a great deal could ya?

I was this close to buying a used TK70 off of ebay before I seen this post. I did the math and chose this one due to taking 18650’s and I don’t have to buy 4 more D NIMH batteries and a new charger. It was a no brainer for me. I just hope we like the BTU. I’m sure that we will.

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:
rikr wrote:
I just ordered one, Cool white BTU Driver. Now the wait is on!!

You could’nt resist a great deal could ya?

I was this close to buying a used TK70 off of ebay before I seen this post. I did the math and chose this one due to taking 18650’s and I don’t have to buy 4 more D NIMH batteries and a new charger. It was a no brainer for me. I just hope we like the BTU. I’m sure that we will.

No I couldn’t.. Smile Everyone raves about it so it’s gotta be good. Love the idea of 18650’s also I hate dealing with the D’s. Does anyone know how long it takes to get an order from them?

 

 

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He usually ships DHL so seems pretty quick, forget, but like 10-14 days maybe? The light is a beast - I like to compare it to a HD 2010 on steroids -- it's simple, over-sized, but gets outstanding results. Battery carrier isn't at the same level as a TN31, TK75, or even the new 7G9v2, but it's not awful budget either.

What puts it over the top now, I believe, is the real AR lens shipping now -- my tests show a definite bump - two Shockers I tested with the new AR lens get over 3,000 lumens stock. It seems to be better than the UCL/p lens, unless it's variations on my side with the lightbox, or other production mods I'm not aware of, dunno.

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