Vinz Custom P60 Drop-Ins: Triple Nichia 219 High CRI and Quad XP-G2
Foy is the luckiest flashaholic on the planet. Imagine getting a note from the most skilled custom flashlight/drop-in builder, perhaps in the world, asking if you would do the favor of evaluating and commenting on two modules he has planned. "Would I mind" he asked . . .
The few of you that own a Vinz creation know that from conception to tracking number, buying something from this guy is a unique and thrilling experience. This makes three modules I have now from Vinz and like the first (XM-L/U3 "Meisterstück") the level of quality is astonishing and performance is simply breathtaking. Because I don't frequent other flashlight communities, the feeling that I am practicing the hobby at the bleeding edge of innovation may not be entirely accurate. Power up one of these howitzers however and the suspicion that you are holding one of the finest P60 drop-ins on the planet is impossible to ignore.
These modules provided by Vinz for evaluation.
Quick specs:
Quad XP-G2/R5/1A
2-mode user interface with 1-second mode memory
low: 200 lumens
high: 1,500 lumens
3.7 volt only
tail cap current measured using a Solarforce P1d and Panasonic NCR18650PD charged to 4.23 volts: 5.45 amps on high
price: $105 including registered shipping from Germany
Triple Nichia 219 B10-SW45 High CRI
ascending 3-mode user interface with 1-second mode memory
low: 20 lumens
medium: 180 lumens
high: 720 lumens
3.7 volt only
tail cap current measured using a Solarforce L2X and Panasonic NCR18650PD charged to 4.23 volts: 3.83 amps on high
price: $105 including registered shipping from Germany
Vinz recommends using only these low internal resistance/high capacity cells for maximum current and stable output. He asked that I purchase them to evaluate these modules.
Foy's small collection of rare German jewelry, left to right: Quad XP-G2/R5/1A, Triple Nichia 219/B10/SW45/High CRI and XM-L/U3/2S . . .
Vinz turns his aluminum on a small, manual lathe and polishes it to a mirror finish . . .
Every detail is scrutinized, almost to absurdity. Take for example, his potting . . .
Vinz has formulated his very own potting/thermal adhesive based on 80% pure diamond powder. Each drop is 15ct. and this bag cost almost $400! Why? The heat conductance value of aluminum is about 220. The conductance of his diamond powder mix is 2300.
Your order arrives carefully packed inside their own plastic case . . .
When's the last time you received a drop-in packaged like this?
We'll do a walk-around on the quad first . . .
And the Triple Nichia walk-around . . .
Here's a white-wall of the Quad XP-G2. No matter how close you get, even an inch from the wall the center spot is perfectly round with no lines or division of any kind. The tint is less cool than other CW I have. The corona is gradual and the spill is four curving lines of the optic that look like a kaleidoscope.
The Triple Nichia doesn't really have a defined center spot. It's just a round perfect with no artifacts or separations at all. It is basically a gigantic flood of neutral white light that makes any CW next to it look more green and any NW next to it look less neutral.
All beam shots taken with 1/4 second shutter speed @ f2.8.
Int'l Outdoor Store ALXM in a Solarforce L2M. (XM-L2/T6/3C)
Triple Nichia 219 High CRI in a Solarforce L2X.
Quad XP-G2 in a Solarforce P1d.
ALXM at left with the Quad XP-G2 on the right. Yeah . . . the quad is a little brighter.
ALXM at left with the Triple Nichia on the right. Is that incredible or what?
Triple Nichia at left with the Quad XP-G2 at right.
ALXM . . .
Triple Nichia . . .
Quad XP-G2 . . .
Ohhhh the humanity . . . (ALXM at left, Quad XP-G2 at right)
And the spanking continues . . . (ALXM at left, Triple Nichia at right)
Triple Nichia at left, Quad XP-G2 at right.
I need to go to bed but I'll say a bit more later. Suffice it to say however, these are some damn bright modules.
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Excellent pics and what a piece of craftmanship!
All things considered, $105 is kind of a bargain.
Those things are ugly, no good pieces of junk… send them to me and I will dispose of them properly… J)
I agree with texaspyro but theres not a hope in this world i would trust him. Send them to me to dispose of.
Seriously these things are a work of art. I wont even ask what the drivers are. Thanks Foy.
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Very nice walls of light. My favorite kind of beams for pocket lights!
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That’s gotta be the coolest drop in ever.
Thanks for the review Foy and cheers to Vinz!
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What’s the vendors contact info?
Nicest P60s made, if you want the best, $105 please.
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They look very nice and all, and I respect the guy but the price ($400 for a package with 2 drop-in’s) is absolute craziness.
I think I would rather spend that on lets say Spark SP6 if someone would say to me “here’s a 400 bucks, you have 10 minutes tu spend them”…
No, the dropins were only $105 each.
That $400 is what Vinz paid for 1500 carats of diamond dust. I think that if he shopped around he could have found it for half that.
Wow. This is crazy… shocking…
How bright is bright enough...
Runtime VS Lumens...
Oh yeah, you’re right, bag of dust was $400.
But still, $105 per drop-in!!! If it was $40-$50 I would understand, $70 would be really “stretching” my mind to understand, $105 i can’t understand and even if Vinz would give me one for free I wouldn’t understand…
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Those are just gorgeous!!! I wouldn’t want to put them in a host and cover them up…. Amazing.
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Vinz is outstanding master… And I don’t want to offend other guys bud German made products are really something special. Best rifles, best cars, best riflescopes and now this
Bravo!
Wow! Those are simply gorgeous!
Hmmm...lemme think about this... $125 for a Surefire 6PX Defender or $125 for a Solarforce L2P and Vinz drop-in?
Go home Surefire, you're drunk!
Yes, gorgeous...
Never seen antyhing close to this.. and everything is custom made...
I dont know how many hours go into 1 drop in, but I think it takes quite a bit.
and quality means money...
I don`t want to pay $105, but I think they are worth it!
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Yeeeep…. Gives some perspective!!
I have had the pleasure of owning one of vinz’s custom drop ins (xmlu3) – he does excellent work that is in a class of its own
nice review
Thanks a lot! I just last night told myself I wouldn’t be buying any more lights! Too much money being spent, I said to myself after ordering more IMR cells.
And now this! Holy Frijole Batman! So beautiful! So Powerful! So well constructed! How can I get one? Where will I find the funds? Need! Want! Must have!
Oh yeah, THANKS Foy!
Now I will also have to convince MRsDNF that he simply must build me a pure copper host to put this gorgeous creature in! I’m double damned!
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It is amazingly pretty. Does he make extreme thrower p60s?
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Great review and stunning drop-ins
Is there a contact email for Vinz, I think I might have to get a Quad XP-G2
But will I spend my $105 for this drop-in or a BTU shocker at $99? Maybe I’ll skip this at this time.
I was about to pull the trigger for the Shocker, but now…I need the 219 and the XPG! But how? Please share!
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105$ is a lot of money for a drop-in, but I don't think the product is overpriced. Its just a proper premium product, custom made and top notch.
Foy, how long would you use these drop-ins on high before dimming them down due to heat?
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How well do these transfer heat to the flashlight body? My (relatively limited) understanding is that the limitation of the P60 design is the transfer of heat from the drop-in to the body, which is why people using aluminum foil, etc. Does this drop-in sit flush or somehow overcome that issue? I cannot imagine wrapping such a beautiful piece with aluminum foil. Gorgeous work!
Vinz made me a single XM-L2 emitter drop-in in the same batch he made for Foy. It was less than the triple and quadruple and I must say I think it is the best flashlight related money I have spent ever. My drop-in is configured for more everyday use with 1 sec mode memory divided on 4 modes (7L/40L/240L/800L) which gives a good combination of performance and runtime. The drop-in fits my L2P just absolutely perfect and needs a little push to come into place.
I used the light extensively and for long periods on high last night when doing the yearly night guard shift at my boat club and I did not notice that the light got hot at all. It changed temperature, but didn’t get hot. The XinTD v4 I used in parallel for throw and comparison got noticeable warmer after a couple of minutes on high (it is also an amazing light that should be in everyone’s collection).
I could write forever about the beautiful T6-3D tint and how great the TIR lens work, etc. but the iPad keyboard is driving me crazy. To keep it short: you will not get disappointed if you get a Vinz drop-in. For sure.
Thanks Foy for sharing the detailed pictures of your new jewelry and your always amusing, yet relevant opinions. Keep it coming!
Bak,
How much was the single XM-L2 emitter drop-in? Maybe this one is much more affordable.
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