Lithium-ion Moli IMR-26700A 2900mAh 3.8V Cylindrical High Power Cells

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Lithium-ion Moli IMR-26700A 2900mAh 3.8V Cylindrical High Power Cells

Edit: 8/16/2013

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I am now selling the Lithium-ion Moli IMR-26700A 2900mAh 3.8V Cylindrical High Power Cells.

These are the ones manufactured in Canada, used in many power packs, electric cars, etc. The batteries I am selling are brand new, not used and out of power packs. They come about 50% charged, you will be the first owner and are buying the very best.

Here is a link to the web page I designed for this battery: http://elektrolumens.com/Batteries/26700/26700-Battery-Specs.html

I made some additions to the web page, with more information. Also, there is a link to my shopping cart page to purchase this battery.

The price is only $12.80, pre-sale price. In addition, for today only (8/16/2013), I am offering free shipping to USA destinations only. I will remove the free shipping option on 8/17/2013.

This is a pre-sale, batteries will not ship before September 1, but will ship by September 15, 2013.

If you have any questions, email me: waynej@elektrolumens.com

For international shipments, please email me, to see if I can ship to your country, and how much it will cost.

Wayne

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I’m looking at buying a larger quantity of Moli 26700 batteries. These are same size as 26650, but have up to a 40 amp discharge. Also, the chemistry is a bit safer than typical Li-Ion chemistry (LiMn02). The best 26650 batteries usually have a max output of 10 amps, these batteries are quite amazing.

Here are the specs.

Capacity​ (Nominal)​ :2900​ mAh
Nominal​ Voltage:​ 3.8​ V
Size​ :26.4​ x​ 70​ mm
Weight:​ 101g
Operating​ Voltage:​ 4.2​ V​ to​ 2.5​ V
Charge​ Voltage:​ 4.2​ V​ ±​ 50​ mV
Cut-off​ Voltage:​ 2.5​ V
Maximum​ Discharge​ :40​ A
Maximum​ Charge​ :7.4​ A

Just wondering about the interest there might be in these batteries? I had some in stock before (different skin, but same battery), and I really sold out fast. It can be difficult sometimes to buy a good 26650 that can put out the power required by my flashlights, and also, some of the other high power flashlights out there.

Price would be around $12/ea approximately, might vary a bit depending on quantity I purchase, etc.

It would take about 3 weeks to get them in from time of order.

Wayne

Edited by: elektrolumens on 08/21/2013 - 11:15
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Links to 3$ and 4.5$ per cell removed as thread starter requested.

Edit:Flomotion,please remove my quote.

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The second seller has a pretty low feedback score. First seller seems ok.

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nice way to crap on a trusted traders thread too, thanks for that.

Elektrolumens, depending on if you could ship to the uk, I’d be interested in a few, my 26650 supply is pretty poor so I’m in the market for six or so.

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Do you strip the cardboard and put a real wrapper on them? I'd probably be in for a pair if you do 

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Pulsar wrote:

Do you strip the cardboard and put a real wrapper on them? I’d probably be in for a pair if you do 


I could buy from the same source I did before, has the green plastic wrapper on them. Or, re-wrap with my own. Didn’t really think about the wrapper material.

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I leave the cardboard on in most of my lights.  Seems like better protection.  Some are too narrow and I have to slide off cardboard and shrink wrap. 

The cardboard gives the lights a nice feel because it cushions the cells.  No rattles.  I think the cardboard would absorb some leakage should that ever happen.

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The prices in the ads in the 2nd post seem way too good to be true.  Crazy amazing deals if they are as I have never seem them lower than estimated in the OP.

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The ones in the OP say made in Canada so how are the Chinese sellers selling them so cheap?

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The ones in the OP say made in Canada so how are the Chinese sellers selling them so cheap?

Now I don’t want to get crazy here, but I heard a rumour that some products coming out of China aren’t 100% authentic.

(Just having a little fun spaceboy, those prices are seriously too low to be true)

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I look at it like this, despite not being able to afford any of waynes products, I find him both trustworthy and approachable, I’m inclined to buy cells from him because $12 for a very high output 26650 cell is a good price, and I dont need 100 26650 cells from an unknown untrusted seller.

moli cells have definitely been cloned before, guess what? they were obviously cheap re wrapped crap. I’d settle for 30 of waynes cells over 100 unknown ones because I’d at least trust they are the real deal.

Can we now stop trashing the thread please? It is at the very least disrespectful.

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Someone on this forum contacted an E-Moli exec. and asked about the eBay cells. He looked up the the serial numbers and found they had originally been sold as battery packs and the dates were several years old.
I’m in Canada, and I only know one trusted seller, and electro lumens price is very good. I would buy a few from him.

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I'm interested, but I don't have a use for a cell with that kind of discharge yet.

The low mode should be lower.

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gords1001 wrote:

"Can we now stop trashing the thread please? It is at the very least disrespectful."

 

Is our truth so delicate that it can not be subjected to objection?

With all due respect gords (you are totally the man to me), I don't see the issue here.  Someone reported what they probably thought may be much better deals.  It's possible, but doubtful, that they are better deals.  Deeper scrutiny will reveal the truth.  The way I look at is, if someone (anyone) is proclaiming a truth, the truth, if real, will prevail against attack and look that much more the better for it.

This forum is about being frugal.   The 2nd post could have been more delicate about it, but I think it is fine.  Whatever the intention of it, its potential result is the heart of why I joined this forum.  Truth will eventually support whether the post is correct or not.

I can be very dense when it comes to politeness and politics.  Please feel free to educate me in a straightforward, easy for a 1st grader to understand, manner.

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Thanks for posting these I might be interested in a few of them down the road a bit but right now I’m tapped out. Next month I would probably pick some up.

I’m a junky, I mod lights so I can sell lights so I can buy more light to mod so I can sell lights to buy more lights to mod.

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Hi Wayne,

Thanks for offering these.   I'd be in for a couple for sure.   If there is a price break on quantity I could probly go for like 10+   

I am not saying I dont trust you or anything Wayne because you do have a good rep here and at CPF, but if we could get an independent test of these exact cells from your source tested with full discharge data sheets like the ones HKJ does my interest would be over the top.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Common18650Summary%20UK.html

EDIT: I personally would prefer the ones that came in shrink if we are voting Smile

 

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vestureofblood wrote:

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for offering these.   I’d be in for a couple for sure.   If there is a price break on quantity I could probly go for like 10+   

I am not saying I dont trust you or anything Wayne because you do have a good rep here and at CPF, but if we could get an independent test of these exact cells from your source tested with full discharge data sheets like the ones HKJ does my interest would be over the top.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Common18650Summary%20UK.html

EDIT: I personally would prefer the ones that came in shrink if we are voting Smile

 

If these batteries have been tested and testing info is available, or not, I’ll check and see.

I can opt for these batteries, or the INR batteries I had sold before, or the Moli 26700a I had been selling before.

Mainly I was looking to see what kind of interest there is out there for the 26650 type battery. Although I sort of know from past experience of selling the batteries there is pretty good interest.

I have been considering also offering a 18650 battery of some sort, and a charger. I had been selling the TR-005 charger.

Wayne

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If you could get your supplier to send 2 of these to HKJ, and they really perform... it could be a total game changer

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

gords1001 wrote:

“Can we now stop trashing the thread please? It is at the very least disrespectful.”

 

Is our truth so delicate that it can not be subjected to objection?

With all due respect gords (you are totally the man to me), I don’t see the issue here.  Someone reported what they probably thought may be much better deals.  It’s possible, but doubtful, that they are better deals.  Deeper scrutiny will reveal the truth.  The way I look at is, if someone (anyone) is proclaiming a truth, the truth, if real, will prevail against attack and look that much more the better for it.

This forum is about being frugal.   The 2nd post could have been more delicate about it, but I think it is fine.  Whatever the intention of it, its potential result is the heart of why I joined this forum.  Truth will eventually support whether the post is correct or not.

I can be very dense when it comes to politeness and politics.  Please feel free to educate me in a straightforward, easy for a 1st grader to understand, manner.

+1, I’m up for the truth being let out, not censorship. It was kinda bad form maybe to post directly after, but we aren’t on CPF to make companies or even good people more money by censoring options, I think that’s also bad form. It would have been better to relate all the bad experiences with aliexpress (which are true) and the likelihood that these cells are counterfeit (also true) and leave the post, censoring it makes it more, not less tempting to go find. Another thing, if you followed the link and went to the site to look, one of the listings showed 2.5 A maximum discharge, while another had specs that seemed to look as though they copied the specs from somewhere else, more strong indications about the questionable nature of those “Moli” cells. Wink Plus, you can hardly get Ultrafire large capacity 18650 cells for $3 each…something is very fishy about those listings and I think the truth speaks for itself.

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Pulsar wrote:

If you could get your supplier to send 2 of these to HKJ, and they really perform… it could be a total game changer

+100 Will be looking to buy some 26650s relatively soon and I want some higher output cells than my Trustfire flames Smile

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elektrolumens wrote:

If these batteries have been tested and testing info is available, or not, I'll check and see. I can opt for these batteries, or the INR batteries I had sold before, or the Moli 26700a I had been selling before. Mainly I was looking to see what kind of interest there is out there for the 26650 type battery. Although I sort of know from past experience of selling the batteries there is pretty good interest. I have been considering also offering a 18650 battery of some sort, and a charger. I had been selling the TR-005 charger. Wayne

INR cells are ok, I have some of the better quality ones, but even those are only truly "good" to about 7 amps.     I've seen other chem cells that claim 10-20 amp discharge, and maybe they are safe up to that, but none of them will carry that heavy of a load (accept the 3.3V Life cells and similar).     A 3.8V cell that can actually carry above a ten amp load would be in a class all by itself.   I understand that these are nothing new, but I never realized they were so robust.

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vestureofblood wrote:

elektrolumens wrote:

If these batteries have been tested and testing info is available, or not, I’ll check and see. I can opt for these batteries, or the INR batteries I had sold before, or the Moli 26700a I had been selling before. Mainly I was looking to see what kind of interest there is out there for the 26650 type battery. Although I sort of know from past experience of selling the batteries there is pretty good interest. I have been considering also offering a 18650 battery of some sort, and a charger. I had been selling the TR-005 charger. Wayne

INR cells are ok, I have some of the better quality ones, but even those are only truly “good” to about 7 amps.     I’ve seen other chem cells that claim 10-20 amp discharge, and maybe they are safe up to that, but none of them will carry that heavy of a load (accept the 3.3V Life cells and similar).     A 3.8V cell that can actually carry above a ten amp load would be in a class all by itself.   I understand that these are nothing new, but I never realized they were so robust.

Just curious, how do you arrive at the information here? The INR I have seem to easily put out 10 amps.

Wayne

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vestureofblood wrote:

INR cells are ok, I have some of the better quality ones, but even those are only truly "good" to about 7 amps.     I've seen other chem cells that claim 10-20 amp discharge, and maybe they are safe up to that, but none of them will carry that heavy of a load (accept the 3.3V Life cells and similar).     A 3.8V cell that can actually carry above a ten amp load would be in a class all by itself.   I understand that these are nothing new, but I never realized they were so robust.

Moli is not the only high current cell, try checking the Sony cell I have just reviewed, it handles 50A, but has less capacity than the Moli cell.

I would like to test the Moli cell, but shipping is probably to expensive.

My website with reviews of many chargers and batteries (More than 1000): https://lygte-info.dk/

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Wayne.
I have a few of your lights and another one on order….
I would be interested in 6 for sure…up to ten units.
Thanks for the offering

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Just curious, how do you arrive at the information here? The INR I have seem to easily put out 10 amps. Wayne

Sure.  Dont get me wrong I'm not bagging on INR cells its just that all of the ones I have seen that will even carry a load that high sag below what I consider to be a useful voltage.   I have not seen any INR cells that will keep the voltage above 3.5 ( which is the very least I need to drive emitters at high current) for more than about the first 20% of the cycle. 

Here is an example if you are interested.

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/King%20Kong%20INR26650E%204000...

See how at only about 500ma the voltage sag is under 3.5V at ten amp.

I did also find that Molicel has put out their own graphs here for the 26700A cell.

http://www.molicel.com/ca/pdf/IMR26700.pdf

Even under a tremendous 20 amp load the cell carries the load at over 3.5V to what looks like about 2200ma.

So we now we know the cells can do it, and I am not doubting your integrity as a seller Wayne, I just think it would seal the deal if we had a pair of cells from your supplier that were verified Smile

 

 

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Moli is not the only high current cell, try checking the Sony cell I have just reviewed, it handles 50A, but has less capacity than the Moli cell.

I would like to test the Moli cell, but shipping is probably to expensive.

Thanks HKJ.   I had no idea sony had a 26mm cell.   I used to rob Makita tool packs to get the VT 18650 cells years ago to power up 100 watt incan bulbs, they were great cells.

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It was kinda bad form maybe to post directly after, but we aren't on CPF to make companies or even good people more money by censoring options, I think that's also bad form.


You're right, this isn't CPF.  Bad manners are too common around here.

The low mode should be lower.

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I'm wondering if my cells are very old.  I pulled them from tool packs.  Does anyone know where the date code is and how to decipher it?

If mine are old, I may be interested in buying 2 to 4.

EDIT: I've searched several times for an answer on the date code, but my google-fu was not strong enough each time.

EDIT2: If I order, I would prefer the card board wrapper.  It is much tougher than shrink wrap.  I can always shrink wrap myself.  Plus, there is identifying information on the cardboard wrapper and the cardboard wrapper allows the cells to work in my SRK's.

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I did not realize I was going to get a controversy going here, or I would not have started the thread. Maybe I should have given more thought to the subject. Anyway, all the posting here is being of big help to me. I guess I need an education.

The batteries I started this thread about are the inexpensive ones, seen on Alibaba. The price varies depending on the quantity and who they are purchased from. How they perform, needs to be verified. I can see I best buy a few and find someone to test them.

I am thinking it might be better, and there might be more interest, in the seemingly difficult to get Molicell 26700a,


. I can also ask them their opinion on the other batteries mentioned in this thread.

All the posting so far has been helpful, and even the 2nd post, which I asked to be removed.

Wayne

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It's all good.  It's just a sign we are passionate about our hobby.  At the end of the day, we are all friends.  At least I hope so.

You purchasing straight from the manufacturer means a lot to me.  These cells (the ones that can deliver 40+ amps continuous) have been used by the RC community for some time with great success.  They do crazy things with these cells that make us look like tame kittens in comparison. 

It would be great if you get them tested by a qualified BLFer.  I know it would put a lot of folks at ease and probably result in more sales.  I don't need you go get them tested for my sake though.  I just need to know how old my cells are before I make a decision to purchase.

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elektrolumens, depending on how it works out and if your game for shipping outside your borders I would potentially be interested in a set of 3-4 of these. Currently my 26650 cell collection consists of 8 Trustfire 5k’s and 3 Moli 26650C’s which I grabbed off ebay and are not really high current cells from my understanding (although I don’t know how or have the ability to test them myself). I really don’t think you would have any issues selling through a lot of 100 of these in no time since most I would think would buy 2-4 cells each and it would be coming from someone we trust! Wink

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