Went to a country wedding and after the reception I pulled out a Convoy C8, AR glass, smooth XP-G reflector, XP-G2 on Noctigon at 3 amps and about 350 metres beam and a great-nephew said 'WOW - that must be a Led Lenser'.
I'd never heard of them so I checked the forum and the seem to be underpowered zoomies using older emitters with AAA and AA batteries and WOW!! prices.
Jumping out of helicopters at the top of mountains to ski down them, mountain climbing, base jumping and doing 300+kph on his Suzuki Hayubusa - on public roads and somehow not getting caught.
He seems to have a charmed life but I'm not sure if he'll reach thirty.
1. It’s good that a non flashalolic even knows another torch brand.
2. It seems popular on CPF and here to a lesser extent to bash Led Lensers, but from what I can tell it’s for almost no valid reason.
I own 3 “POP lites”. Which I believe are either very good copies or more likely built in the same factory as Led Lensers. And to be honest they are brilliant. The T33 I have will out flood and out throw an XM-L T6 p60 and it does it only 3AAA batteries and is no bigger physically either.
I don’t know if Led Lensers are crap or otherwise but they are expensive and seem to demonstrate the “Veblen effect” whereby the elevated price maintains their perceived status as exclusive/desirable/high end products. Take the price down and they lose their appeal.
I would like to see a educated review for some ledlensers…
It’s hard to judge about them without having one as they have there unique zooming tir which is their patent.
Aspherical zoomers suck when zoomed in as they loose to many light, if they are able to make this better with a tir than it could be really powerful…
On the other side they have to stick to xpe because of the optics…and that causes immediately some disrespect from our side…
And here in Europe 18650 aren’t so “mainstream” like they are in US, never seen them in a normal store and just in the last year they make it to the german expedition/globetrotter stores…
All lights for sale locally are normal battery lights…
And people still tend to compare ledlensers to maglites, that’s why some are so impressed and praise it.
Even my half broken XML c8 or sk68 impresses people which have a 20lumen light at home.
LL H7 headlamp was my first serious light and I was impressed with it… but it has bad heat sinking and weak wires…
so I modded it with xp-g 90+ cri emitter (wider beam), replaced the wires and soldered a connector for external accupack -now it’s not that bad but it’s flimsy and fragile compared to zebralight
oh and if someone asked me that question, I would give them this look:
I agree it would be helpful to see some objective reviews of these lights. Btw, LedLenser are now producing rechargeable lights using li-ion and ytrion cells (whatever they are?)
I have a few LLensers, they are decent throwers for their low lumens, my LL MT7 runs 4 AAA, is rated at 220 lumens and has a better beam distance to my Convoy C8.
I used them a lot for camping and work , zoomed in (flood) as it provides a non glaring flat flood output.
They are no more expensive than Fenix, Klarus, Nitecore in local stores.
The older ones have no HAlll anodizing, out of interest I bought a new non zoomy LL that uses CR123 , 400 lumens pocket rocket, it’s tiny, full IPX8 and HAlll , I’m reasonably impressed, I even ignored the manufacter warning about running RCR123 and use Terngy LiFeP04 cells, so far the thing probably outputs 430L now, gets a bit hotter than with primaries , then the heat protection kicks in , a great little EDC light, it’s the F1 model.
I think they’ve offered these for a while and ones running on lithium primaries and different forms of regulation.
I admit they are pricey off the shelf, but the POP lites I have are miles higher quality in machining, anodising and general feel over any of my budget lights.