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Floody AA

Hi im looking for some suggestions on a very floody AA . I need it to be rear clicky and low lumens 30-80. I don’t mind doing modifications or even just taking the reflector right of running bare emitter. Under $20 Thanks.

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I would suggest a sipik SK68 clone, but that will be way more than 30 to 80 lumens (I think) and runtime will suck.  Are you looking for single mode?  Or do you want a low (or perhaps medium) mode that is in your 30 to 80 lumen range?

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Im not concerned with how many modes it has. Just looking for really good battery life out of a single aa.

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Whatever light it will be, order a SK68 as well if you don´t have many lights. You will like it.

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Sk68 for the cheap option. Good lights, 1 and 3 mode versions available and will run on a 14500.

I’ve also got one of these: http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10000890/1075603-pop-lite-t22-cree-xr...

Much nicer build quality than an sk68 and much slimmer in the pocket. Not really any brighter on an AA though although slightly more output and I don’t think it supports 14500’s. The beam is a bit uglier when white wall hunting, but the TIR optic illuminates a wider area than the sk68 and when zoomed in is much much nicer.

Overall many pitfalls but I really like mine and it gets used most nights because it floods so well.

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Try a Sipik SK-68 clone. Unfocused it is very floody. You can always take off the bezel (easily) to get bare emitter flood.

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SK68 driver is pretty inefficient though. I think the OP wants good battery life and the SK68 will not give him that.

It’s gonna be tough finding what you want for less than $20. There are a few 1xAA clicky lights that have constant current medium modes in the 30-50 lumen range that have decent battery life, but they cost closer to $30.

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Im going to try the romisen RC-29 with a quality AA, hopefully on the low setting it will have good battery life.

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That should be a good choice.  Where are you buying from? 

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I’m buying from DX, I did look at shiningbeam.com first but assumed those modded rc29’s would draw more current.

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There’s also the L3 Illuminations L10. It’s pretty floody. And, at least with the XP-G2, I get about 1:15-1:20 on high (an honest 120 lumens) with 2000mAH. With four Eneloops/Duraloops (which are light and easy to carry in your pocket), that’s actually a good long time at full brightness. Many people prefer this light with the Nichia rather than the Cree because of the tint. But brightness (and possibly runtime) will suffer with that emitter.

Without lamps, there’d be no light.

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StorminMatt wrote:
There's also the L3 Illuminations L10. It's pretty floody. And, at least with the XP-G2, I get about 1:15-1:20 on high (an honest 120 lumens) with 2000mAH. With four Eneloops/Duraloops (which are light and easy to carry in your pocket), that's actually a good long time at full brightness. Many people prefer this light with the Nichia rather than the Cree because of the tint. But brightness (and possibly runtime) will suffer with that emitter.

Twist switch. OP requires rear clicky.

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I bought a SingFire SF-117B (SKU: 191024) at DX. It is a Sipik SK68 clone with a Cree XM-L led. It is floody and has three modes (high/medium/blinky). I cannot measure it exactly, but i believe that medium mode with an alkaline AA gives the low lumens you want. There are cons : on my flashlight, led is not very well centered, and finish could be better. But, as every SK 68, it’s small, simple and useful.
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rojos wrote:
SK68 driver is pretty inefficient though. I think the OP wants good battery life and the SK68 will not give him that.

It’s gonna be tough finding what you want for less than $20. There are a few 1xAA clicky lights that have constant current medium modes in the 30-50 lumen range that have decent battery life, but they cost closer to $30.

Any led light that uses one AA needs a boost driver and for under $20 it would be hard to find a more efficient boost driver, I would suppose. I can’ think of anything better than a 3 mode SK68. Just don’t replace the battery until it gets dimmer than what you need. That should give at least a couple of hours on low mode.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Is it possible to elliminate that rear clicky requirement?

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Gj wrote:

Is it possible to elliminate that rear clicky requirement?

I’ll listen to any suggestion.

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This http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Silvery-Adjustable-Focus-Zoom-In-Out-CREE-Q5-LED-300lm-Bright-Mini-Flashlight-Torch/596272788.html is a place I found nice 3 mode SK68s with a choice of color. You might find black ones cheaper.
I have an SK58 Cree three mode that I like, but the place I got it is out of stock.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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> sk68
— see the many threads about those.
you never know what you’re getting,
even if you order three at a time you’ll likely get three slightly different sk68s.

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Deano85 wrote:
Gj wrote:

Is it possible to elliminate that rear clicky requirement?

I’ll listen to any suggestion.

Thrunite T-10

Wk50

Balder Se-1

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It’s almost worth the price of an SK68 to see yet another variation.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Defiant 1xAA from Home Depot is 56 lm, single mode, reverse clicky and floody. Runs about $8 regular price. Same as the brinkmann Armormax. Not sure about runtime, but it’s not a bad little light…

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how about any recommendation for a flood light with super high lumen? preferbly cheap and affordable

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Ice wrote:
Deano85 wrote:
Gj wrote:

Is it possible to elliminate that rear clicky requirement?

I’ll listen to any suggestion.

Thrunite T-10

Wk50

Balder Se-1

I also vote for the Thrunite T10; the lumen modes are well-spaced; the runtimes are excellent; and the head-twist UI is smooth as silk. It’s also small enough to carry on your keychain if you wish, and I really like the mode memory feature, which is not common in a light in this price range. Here is an excellent review ; the only thing that’s not accurate in this review(about a year and a half old) is that the price has dropped; you can get one now for around $20.
Here’s the Review:

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ThruNite T10 AA (Twistie)w/FireFly .09lum>Low 9lum>Hi 115lum//and Memory

My TooManyGizmos Summation first … (getting right to the point of the review)

I like this light (A LOT) because it has 3 useful and well spaced outputs and Memory.
The 3 light level modes are in the most logical and expected sequence of .. FireFly > Low > High > (repeat) .
It uses the XP-G R5 LED emitter .The 0.09Lumen FireFly mode is just enough for night-time navigation and preserves your dark adapted vision. The next mode of 9Lumens is just right for adequately seeing things at arm distance to 12 feet without excessive glare and bounce-back reflection. (bright enough to read the first 3 lines or so on an Eye chart) .. The High mode @115Lumens is very bright and broad which lights up the entire end of a room. Those three levels will take care of your average needs .. of reading a menu or map – normal arm-length tasks – or lighting up an entire room or things at a 40 foot distance. It is regulated and has no PWM strobing. It’s light-weight , can be used for key-chain / pocket / or lanyard neck carry. The memory works well , last mode in use will be remembered after the light is OFF for more than 3 seconds. Twist action is very smooth and my sample had no head wobble to cause erratic mode changes. Knurling is just right for good grip and the Matte-Black anodized finish is excellent along with the tooling , construction and fit. The base is in a * Y * shape , with elongated horizontal slot for split-ring attachment … and it has stable tail-stand. Some may find the slot for the split-ring to be a little thin and not beefy enough , but it is probably sufficient. It will not go on an average size split-key-ring without using the supplied small split-ring as a transition to the larger ring. The XP-G R5 LED is centered and it has a textured reflector. Provides a very broad hot-spot, good spill, and smooth un-defined transition from spot-to-spill. In my opinion , it is a good Every Day Carry light which will meet most of your EDC carry needs. Meets the lowest needs, average needs, and very bright needs. This ThruNite T10 has now replaced my ThruNite Ti .. as my favorite night-time, round-thu-neck, neck-lanyard light.
(but the Ti is also close)

Manufacturer’s & Retailers Specifications :

$29.95 (MSRP)

T10 Specifications:
- Cree XP-G LED (R5) with lifespan of 50,000 hours
-Three modes of output: firefly(0.09lumens,147hours)->Low(9 lumens,39hrs) ->High(115 lumens, 1.5hrs) with memory (Tested with Ni-mh battery with actual capacity 2500mAh)
-Stable current regulated circuit, stable brightness
-Uses one 1.5V AA battery (ni-mh, alkaline ). 14500 batteries are not recommended, because they heat up quickly.
-17-gram weight (excluding batteries)
-Made of durable aircraft-grade aluminum
-Premium Type III hard-anodized anti-abrasive finish
-Waterproof to IPX-8 Standard
-Toughened double ultra-clear glass lens
-Reliable twist switch
-Candle mode (Capable of standing up securely on a flat
surface to serve as a candle)
-Accessories: key ring.
-Size: 81×17mm

  • Manufactured by ThruNite

Construction-Quality , Finish & Feel :

Construction , tooling , fit , finish and knurling are all excellent quality – common for ThruNite . Matte-Black anodized finish. It is a Twistie Activation Two piece Aluminum body with a spring in the tail section base. ( no foam washers) O-ring between the body and head. This T10 is easily and smoothly operated with one hand.
(one other note: the T10 does NOT have brass insert screw threads like the Ti)
It has grippy knurling on both the head and body. 2 flat areas on opposite sides of the body break up the knurling.On one flat is the Serial number surrounded by a symbol of a battery depicting the way the battery should be inserted in the body.The other flat has the ThruNite – T10 name logo . It is light enough for neck-lanyard-carry. The base is in a * Y * shape , with elongated horizontal slot for split-ring attachment … and it has stable tail-stand. Some may find the slot for the split-ring to be a little thin and not beefy enough , but it is probably sufficient. It will not go on an average size split-key-ring without using the supplied small split-ring as a transition to the larger ring.It is designed for AA size batteries with voltage range of 1.2v thru 1.6v (NiMh , Alkalines & Primary Lithium)

LED – Output Levels – Beam characteristics :

It uses a Cree XP-G LED (R5) and MEMORY for the 3 levels (FireFly>Low>HIGH)
Three modes of output brightness :
firefly(0.09lumens, 147hours)->
Low(9 lumens, 39hrs )->
High(115 lumens, 1.5hrs)

Since it has a larger head and reflector than it’s little sister .. (the ThruNite Ti) .. the T10 produces a Hot-spot that is twice as wide as the Ti , in all three levels of output. (slightly brighter spill , too) Smooth and gradual transition from spot to spill area. ( central spot edges are not crisply defined )

The usefulness of the 0.09 lumen FireFly level will be determined by the reflectiveness of the surface it is shined on . Dark wood floors, dark carpet, dark furniture or dark walls will absorb the low level brightness . If used on lighter colored carpets and tile , and whitish colored wall surroundings , FireFly will be sufficient for night time navigation and preserving night vision. If you do have dark flooring or carpet , you might have to bump-up to the 9 lumen mid-level . The HIgh level will light up the whole room (115 Lumens)

User Interface ( U.I. )

Operation features are typical of a 3 mode twistie . Loosen for OFF (and storage)… Tighten for ON . HOWEVER …. this MAY be the first 3 mode twistie with MEMORY STORAGE of the LAST MODE USED. 3 seconds OFF stores last level in memory.
( T10 is NOT a continual twist design like the Ti predecessor. )
Mode advancement is : on>off>on>off>on>off… repeat .
The sequence is .. FireFly>Low>HIGH . (logical and expected progression)
You can continually go thru the 3 modes , but whatever mode level you stop at and then turn the light OFF … that is the brightness that will be stored into MEMORY. (there is no strobe or s.o.s. modes)

And I really like the useful spacing of the 3 levels . And the MEMORY feature !

Let There Be LIGHT !!

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I got this light from http://www.priceangels.com/SK58-Adjustable-Zoom-Focus-LED-Flashlight-Lamp-Torch-s85918.html for $6 something.

I have only seen knurling this good in pictures of much more expensive lights. It is similar to an SK68 except that it is smaller, more compact but less cooling. The only shortcoming is that it has only one mode. I have two more on order and am holding my breath till I see whether they are as good as the first one.

porkchop wrote:
how about any recommendation for a flood light with super high lumen? preferbly cheap and affordable

For more output than an SK68 and useful run time, you need a larger battery, the next step being a 18650. I like my Sipik SK73 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/21381 as is and my Raysoon TD-398 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/15265 with its cooling potential would be good with a copper star and a high current driver.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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A while back I did a runtime test on a whole heap of cheapo AA lights. My search skills have deserted me tonight or I'd give you a link. But I wrote it here and it was a year or two ago. 

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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I would be interested in seeing the results, but I don’t get anywhere with the links in your post.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Fritz: please cap your images at 100% width. I’m on a 24” desktop monitor, and that light is a good 2 1/2 feet long. Silly

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I don’t understand what is hard to manipulate. It may be 2 1/2 feet but I move around it easily with this small lap top, nearly tablet size. I could trim it down, but reducing the resolution would lose the content. There may be a way to display it smaller here but allow a user to view the original, but most would not do that and miss the main content. I don’t suppose I can have only a detail visible unless I upload a trimmed version and show it instead. Did it take too long to load?

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Part of that was humor, sorry… you can set it to a relative size so that it scales with the users page. You use the same source image, it just changes the browser rendering to scale properly, and people who want to can still easily see the original.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/18059

Mostly it’s just because it’s a bit of a pain on lower-resolution mobile devices.

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I vote SK68! The 3 mode version, with the upgraded XML T6 LED! So pretty, SO BRIGHT! $10 shipped!! http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Upgrade-800Lumens-9W-CREE-XM-L-T6-Mini-LE...

Will run on regular AA battery (so great to give as gift), works best on Sanyo 840mah 14500.

Way WAY better than normal SK68, has low and high brightness, beam is BEAUTIFUL compared, way brighter too!

Move your mouse over to see the upgraded version!

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