Best WARM flashlight right now ?

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Best WARM flashlight right now ?

Hi, i registered on this forum because i have a question, what are actually in 2013, the best Warm (3000k – 3800k) LED flashlight on the market.

I found the Skyray King 3-XML WW and the Zebra light SC-600w with some search on this forum, but i wonder if there are now newer flashlights on the market.

The only flashlight i own now is a Fenix Tk70 and a rayovac AA indestructible, i just want something with a better color redention, i tend to prefer more FLOOD than throw because i’ll use it in the woods.

Thanks and sorry for my simple/bad english, i’m french.

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Welcome to BLF puglife! Smile

If you’re looking for good colour rendition then I think you want to read about high CRI emitters. I’m not into this myself so I can’t really advise you. But I’m certain someone will do so shortly.

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Zebralight’s SC600w is 4200k and is stated as “neutral white”. It isn’t very warm imo. The beam is quite floody though.

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I'm really enjoying my 90+ CRI, 2700k, XM-L2 S6.  I'm going to put it in a few more lights.

The low mode should be lower.

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I've been finding the temperature/cri of MTG2 lights to be excellent... http://www.eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/specs.html

It's warmer than the NW SRK from CNQ, and throws a bit further, but it's really a flood light.  If you can get past the price tag, I'd highly suggest giving it a shot.

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Thanks guys, i’ll do more research on Cree and eagletac :bigsmile:

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Colour rendition is measured by CRI, and most Cree LEDs we use for our flashlights are not great at it. XM-L and XM-L2 u2 has a rendering of 65 which is not very good. Not to say you can’t get get better rendition, look up the xm-l2 datasheet, the page with the bins and temperature, below it is a paragraph that gives colour rendition values for the different emitters.

You may not easily find a light with good rendition, most flashlights focus on lumens and lower CRI leads to more lumens in cree LEDs, but you can usually buy a light and replace the LED if you have soldering skills, though i would make sure its a light that can be taken apart, look for reviews on BLF with pictures of the disassembled light

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Convoy S2 XML T4-C7 at Fasttech is very nice for $17. Very warm orangey beam, looks like “sunset” light feel.

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I am really wanting one of the L3 Illumination lights with the Nichia 219 emitter (affordable and practical) . I had one light, and the CRI was great. I have a couple of the warm high CRI lights from 4Sevens , a SC51w & c, and a few other neutral tint lights, but the 219 is my favorite so far.

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Welcome to the BLF forums Smile
I have a fiew Warm White LED lights, including a Skyray King WW, ( photos are on another thread i have here on BLF forms, comparing it to other SRKs of different color temperature) I also have several modded lights that i put 2700 – 3200K Warm White Emitters into and like alot, including a Sipik SK68, several small EDC lights. some LED lanterns, and a Fandyfire Rook. My favourite for Flood & brightness is the Skyray WarmWhite, then a Sipik SK68 WW for a portable small EDC light.

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DenBarrettSAR wrote:
Welcome to the BLF forums Smile

Thanks Smile

DenBarrettSAR wrote:
I have a fiew Warm White LED lights, including a Skyray King WW

What is the model of this Skyray king? XM-L T6 or XM-L2 U2 ? Steve

Thanks guys for all theses emmiters, but i’m too noob for soldering it myself.. i can’t even put a new on/off switch on my GPS.. i tried with no good result.. :_(

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puglife wrote:
DenBarrettSAR wrote:
Welcome to the BLF forums Smile

Thanks Smile

DenBarrettSAR wrote:
I have a fiew Warm White LED lights, including a Skyray King WW

What is the model of this Skyray king? XM-L T6 or XM-L2 U2 ? Steve

Thanks guys for all theses emmiters, but i’m too noob for soldering it myself.. i can’t even put a new on/off switch on my GPS.. i tried with no good result.. :_(

The one i have is the XM-L T6 model. i like it because it has very nice Color rendering, and is brighter than any incandescent spotlight i ever had and much more floodier.
( as seen here in the top left corner.)

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I’m not much into warm white, but, coincidentally, I got some.

LEDsupply.com has some triples on sale:

http://www.ledsupply.com/07007-pw740-l.php

These have the LXM3-PW51 emitter (3 of them, in series) and the Luxeon sheet says:

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3000K LXML-PW71 85 90

i.e., minimum 85 and typical 90 CRI.

They also have the singles:

http://www.ledsupply.com/07040-pw830-k.php

Those use the LXM3-PW71 emitter:

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3000K LXM3-PW71 80 85

Or, these:

http://www.ledsupply.com/07040-pw740-l.php

which also have the LXM3-PW51 emitter (and are on sale).

Put one of either of those into a light….

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I think the best stock flashlight right now is XinTD C8 with Warm White – XM-L2 T3 6A1 (80CRI Min.) That is 3500K. They just added this LED option.

After it depend of your use and preference, the C8 is more of a thrower and only use one 18650 battery so the runtime will be lower than with multiple cells but its small and lightweight. The C8 is exactly like using one LED of your TK70 but with more power.

You may also like the neutral white 5000k color if you haven’t test it, it give more lumens than warm white and is 75 CRI. Then a MT-G2 light would be better since it give lot of light with wide flood. Like Crelant 7G5MT

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Omega_17 wrote:
I think the best stock flashlight right now is XinTD C8 with Warm White – XM-L2 T3 6A1 (80CRI Min.) That is 3500K. They just added this LED option.

After it depend of your use and preference, the C8 is more of a thrower and only use one 18650 battery so the runtime will be lower than with multiple 18650 but its small and lightweight. The C8 is exactly like using one LED of your TK70 but with more power.

You may also like the neutral white 5000k color if you haven’t test it, it give more lumens than warm white and is 75 CRI. Then a MT-G2 light would be better since it give lot of light with wide flood. Like Crelant 7G5MT

+1 on the c8

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B42 wrote:
Convoy S2 XML T4-C7 at Fasttech is very nice for $17. Very warm orangey beam, looks like “sunset” light feel.

+1

I’ve just compared mine to a $urefire P60 incan; the T4-C7 turned out to be quite close, a wee bit more yellowish (yet, a lot brighter, and the beam being a lot smoother than on the 20 years old “Laser-Products” 6P).

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there’s also the xintd x3 with the 80cri emitter boasting the capability to run on aa cells if you’d prefer not to run lithium cells.

Here’s the xintd c8

http://intl-outdoor.com/xintd-c8-v4-xml2-u2t6-18650-flashlight-p-308.htm...

here’s the xintd x3

http://intl-outdoor.com/xintd-x3-xml2-3aa-flashlight-p-739.html

both are well worth a look, I love my x3.

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gords1001 wrote:
there’s also the xintd x3 with the 80cri emitter boasting the capability to run on aa cells if you’d prefer not to run lithium cells.

Thanks, i don’t own any LION battery so any non-lion flashlights are welcome, but i emailed Hank Wang and he does not have it in warm white, only NW .. :_( but thank you for the suggestion, i would take it if the warm white option was available.

AND thanks guys for the replies, but i don’t care to not have an EDC, i want something that will last me at least 1h30 in high mode. i don’t think only one battery will do the job :quest:

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A single 18650 have more power than 3 AA.
Not many choice and almost everything use Li-on battery right now…

The best option from your requirement would be a modded flashlight with 4×18650 for long runtime with 3 × 90+ CRI, 3000k, XM-L2 S6 made by somebody but it would not be cheap and you also have to bought the batteries and charger.

I think you can’t replace the TK70 LED because there is glue everywhere inside.

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Best warm would be an ebay HID 85w 4300k temp flashlight.

Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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thanks guys for all these suggestions, i finally choose the SKYRAY KING 4 X CREE XM-L T6 :bigsmile:

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puglife wrote:
thanks guys for all these suggestions, i finally choose the SKYRAY KING 4 X CREE XM-L T6 :bigsmile:

OK….so you come in asking for a warm white, then 1:30hr runtime on high, then no Li-ion flashlight….then choose a non-warm white, Li-ion that wont last 1hr 30min runtime on high and isnt a good deal. What was the point of this thread? Silly

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Well.. it look warm to me Shocked and yeah i don’t own any lion battery but now I have to buy four, i don’t know the runtime for this but it use four lion battery so i thought the runtime was fine

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Well first off, I think you can get the Kung (most people call the 4 emitter version of SRK the Kung) for about $35 with free shipping now. Look for the threads here about the Kung light for info on it, they are highly variable in quality too.

Next consideration, I think my SRK (3 emitters, otherwise same light) runs a little over an hr, approaching 1.5 on high, but this has 4 emitters, so if its driven even decent, not only will it last just around an hour, but you cant hold on to the light after about 15min continuous run without burning your fingers (I have a 4 emitter version, it gets finger burning hot at 12 or so mins and unholdable later).

You also can’t judge the tint by the picture because cameras change the tint etc, and warm white is typically more expensive, so it would be extremely unlikely its warm white if it doesn’t specifically say so, it would be a selling point.

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Save $10 on the SRK, spend $10 more on these emitters.  

The low mode should be lower.

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B42 wrote:
Well first off, I think you can get the Kung (most people call the 4 emitter version of SRK the Kung) for about $35 with free shipping now. Look for the threads here about the Kung light for info on it, they are highly variable in quality too.

Next consideration, I think my SRK (3 emitters, otherwise same light) runs a little over an hr, approaching 1.5 on high, but this has 4 emitters, so if its driven even decent, not only will it last just around an hour, but you cant hold on to the light after about 15min continuous run without burning your fingers (I have a 4 emitter version, it gets finger burning hot at 12 or so mins and unholdable later).

You also can’t judge the tint by the picture because cameras change the tint etc, and warm white is typically more expensive, so it would be extremely unlikely its warm white if it doesn’t specifically say so, it would be a selling point.

i did not know it became unusable after 15 minutes, I’ll have to find another one..

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Save $10 on the SRK, spend $10 more on these emitters.  

Thanks but i’m not good at soldering, i must pass on this..
it’s so difficult to find a decent warm flashlight, only because there are few choices..

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The Kung gets very hot, its not “unstable” that I know of. If you want warm white there are lots of SRKs even, just do a search. They are variable in quality. Buy a black one to help deal with the heating up issue.

http://www.fasttech.com/product/1239700-sky-ray-king-3-cree-xm-l-u2-3-mo...
http://www.lightmalls.com/buy/SKY+RAY+KING+warm

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B42 wrote:
Buy a black one to help deal with the heating up issue.

Yeah but the golden color is recommended at the FASTTECH website.. “This golden version is recommended over the black version for better build quality and output.” maybe i’ll wait for a good warm one in the future..

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I have plan to buy a warm white torch also.
anybody has warm lights from armytek?
I would like to know its color temperature.

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puglife wrote:
B42 wrote:
Buy a black one to help deal with the heating up issue.
Yeah but the golden color is recommended at the FASTTECH website.. "This golden version is recommended over the black version for better build quality and output." maybe i'll wait for a good warm one in the future..

That notice is quite old.  I wouldn't put much stock in it.  Bought 3 black ones from FT, over a long period of time, all three were fine.  Still have one around somewhere.

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OK….so you come in asking for a warm white, then 1:30hr runtime on high, then no Li-ion flashlight….then choose a non-warm white, Li-ion that wont last 1hr 30min runtime on high and isnt a good deal. What was the point of this thread?

Exactly !

Why do you even ask if you buy something blindly completely out of your “requirement” ?… Seriously you will be highly disappoint by this light.

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