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If they don’t make some allowances, we won’t have laptop computers, cell phones, ipads, kindles, everything that is powered by li-ion and is made in China. It’s not just the li-ion market that will crash around them, but electronics of all kinds. So they allow the proprietary power supply in the device, but not a loose cannon. Battery packs for laptops have built in protection through circuitry, as do most all devices. So there is some safety by being installed.

The cells we have all been buying were never supposed to ship like they have. Hasn’t anyone noticed the merchants lying on the customs forms? Gift? Toy? Parts? Really? Don’t you think if they’d put Li-ion batteries on the customs forms we’d all have been out of batteries a long time ago? The lies are catching up, that’s all. And now we’re in the middle of it, used to getting what we want and used to ignoring the rules.

Looks like we will be getting used to something else.

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So my observation has been; isn’t the probability that someone will load a device which can accidentally be turned on/overdischarged and vent (or cause a fire by a massively hot multi-LED light in an enclosed space with paper) much more likely than someone gets a sledge hammer or ice pick and randomly smashes mail hitting the batteries or runs over the package with a Hummer?

Does any of you know how to read and also understand the things you’ve read?

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we will insert the batteries with insulation pads into the flashlight. This can ensure the package get ship out smoothly.

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Factoring in human error and laziness, I suspect quite a few(read:most) will not have insulation pads included.

Also the visual of someone walking around stabbing and smashing packages is hilarious and probably accurate as well.

Kind of related: My poor subwoofer (50 pounder) was basically in pieces the first 2 they sent. The second to last one I saw the guy kick it out the truck into the gravel and give it a few more kicks. Then he brought it to my doorstep and left. Really wish I had the phone I have now, back then.

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Does any of you know how to read and also understand the things you've read? 

Are you purposefully fishing, or did you just bring your trolling equipment by accident?Undecided

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It’s called functional illiteracy.

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  Clhoe what happened that jasmine has an entire new staff and I ordered some Panasonic 18650's and just received a message stating my my order originally ordered on 9/3 has been received  so I have no idea what that means. 

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I think that their biggest worry is flammable liquids (also banned) packed in an unsafe manner, leaking and shorting the batteries, also packed in an unsafe manner,

  • the shorted batteries vent flames,
  • the package is soaked in a flamable liquid,
  • you can guess the rest.

The above happened on a cargo plane, thankfully it made an emergency landing, nobody was hurt,
and because nobody was hurt it was only a short article on about page 8~9 of the papers.

If those batteries were in a host then the liquid would probably not get in the host, but if it did, and the battery vented flames they would be confined in the host body, so no fire.

Thats the thing about all of this, it is only when somebody is killed that it gets big coverage, but if you go digging this has been a problem for years, only lately with the growth of the ecig has it become to serious to let continue.

When we buy stuff from China (or anywhere else) we should insist that the seller declares exactly what is inside, then the postal system knows the safe way to handle it, and if that means paying more for postage then so be it.

Cheers David

Nothing to see here folks, move along...

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Old-Lumens wrote:

koyotee wrote:
Does any of you know how to read and also understand the things you’ve read? 

Are you purposefully fishing, or did you just bring your trolling equipment by accident?Undecided

Why does you ask such a question Old Lumens? Wink

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  Clhoe what happened that jasmine has an entire new staff and I ordered some Panasonic 18650’s and just received a message stating my my order originally ordered on 9/3 has been received  so I have no idea what that means. 

FastTech selling e-cigarette products happened… Did you get any tracking info for the 9/3 order? Was it shipped by SG Post or HK Post? It could be that it was held up at Hong Kong Post due to the x-ray scanning and received back by FastTech which means they’ll offer you a choice to refund or resend.

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B42 wrote:
So my observation has been; isn’t the probability that someone will load a device which can accidentally be turned on/overdischarged and vent (or cause a fire by a massively hot multi-LED light in an enclosed space with paper) much more likely than someone gets a sledge hammer or ice pick and randomly smashes mail hitting the batteries or runs over the package with a Hummer?

Did you receive actual packages through an actual postal carrier?

If you did then you should know that there are lots of packages crushed, pierced and damaged without any sledge hammers involved.

But juding from the number of packages I have received with totally inadequate packaging, many people must have the picture that the postal service is transporting just their package only and it’s laying on a bed of feathers.

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    Iam waiting for Jessica respond back to my support ticket . As USPS  locates or track.

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For the people who cannot imagine that packages could actually get damaged during transport.

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    Iam waiting for Jessica respond back to my support ticket . As USPS  locates or track.

Hasn’t USPS been unable to track for days?

For my FT package that 17track has said for 3 days has been accepted, USPS keeps reading, “”“Sorry, the tracking system is having technical difficulties. Please try your search again later.”“”

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...tracking# says cannot locate darn phone is impossible to edit. 

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New update from Jasmine. Singapore Post will refuse all packages that containing lithium batteries. Sad

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Chloe wrote:
New update from Jasmine. Singapore Post will refuse all packages that containing lithium batteries. Sad

Great. :_(

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Well, this is bad... I got this email from Jasmine this morning:

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"As you may have noticed that there was no tracking information available for your package during the past one week. After confirming with Singapore Post, we've confirmed that they have rejected almost all of the packages shipped from 30th Sep that containing batteries without notifying us. This was caused due to current strict inspection of the aviation security.

Your package has just been returned to us. Considering the risk of being returned/delayed again, we are compelled to make a final refund for your order. You will receive a confirmation email regarding the refund from PayPal in a moment.

We apologize for the long waiting and thank you for your great understanding in this case.


Kind regards,

Jasmine

Customer Advocate"

This order contained NO batteries! Only these three items:


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It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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keltex78, maybe it was the knife? Jasmine updated her notice to include knives.

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In this case, it's just as well though. That's the knife that FT changed the .sku item; it was originally the Boker clone and now it's just another cheap/trash knife. This just saves me the RMA and return process.

I guess I'll just by a NiMH charger at Wal Mart now. All I'm missing is the voltage detector.


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Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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I just made four separate orders of 18650s from FT, totaling 16 cells. Three orders have been shipped via HKPost. Let’s see if they make it out of the country.

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Good luck! My 3 packs arrived in just 5 days, Shipped on 4.10., all containing liions and vis Singapore post. 8)

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koyotee wrote:
Good luck! My 3 packs arrived in just 5 days, Shipped on 4.10., all containing liions and vis Singapore post. 8)

I had a package “shipped” with Singapore Post on 4/10 too, but it’s not even trackable (as in “The following Item(s) is/are not found”). No li-ions though, maybe I should have ordered some?

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Mine were despatched on 4th Silly

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Ouchyfoot wrote:
I just made four separate orders of 18650s from FT, totaling 16 cells. Three orders have been shipped via HKPost. Let’s see if they make it out of the country.

I think this is how I will order future cells, in small quantities.

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tallboybass wrote:
I just placed an order for the above mentioned “ 4×18650 Emergency Mobile Power Rechargeable Batteries Pack Charging Box + 4- LG D1 18650s and told them to put the batteries in the box.

How did you tell them to put the batteries in the box?

I tried doing this myself, and couldn’t find anywhere in the ordering process to leave any instructions.

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Go to fasttech and click “your orders”, you can manage everything there. By the way, in such cases as you quoted, they said they will automaticly put the batteries into the device.

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Chloe wrote:
New update from Jasmine. Singapore Post will refuse all packages that containing lithium batteries. Sad

I wonder is that is actually all or all for air freight? I would like them to open an over land delivery system. Old school but will avoid many of the dangers of transporting via air. May take a month but better than than none?

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Bean darach wrote:
tallboybass wrote:
I just placed an order for the above mentioned “ 4×18650 Emergency Mobile Power Rechargeable Batteries Pack Charging Box + 4- LG D1 18650s and told them to put the batteries in the box.

How did you tell them to put the batteries in the box?

I tried doing this myself, and couldn’t find anywhere in the ordering process to leave any instructions.


I didn’t tell them anything. They’re aware of what the situation is at the moment. The Chinese have been dealing with these bureaucratic logjams for ages. I’ll leave it to their ingenuity to keep me supplied with fresh ells.
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with fresh ells.

How many ells, and of what?! the suspense is killing me! Wink

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I meant eels.

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