New Roche F6 EDC XM-L2 Single 18650. $20.99 shipped.

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Mailed Banggood regarding missing parts. Got an answer real quick: Would I like resend? Yes, please! Today a couple of weeks later a parcel from China arrived. Now I can add to my flashlight an extra o-ring, clip, strap and glass breaking tail. Thanks Bangood now I’m good!

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Maybe this has been covered elsewhere. I’m maybe interested in getting this ‘light’ but with the charger head only. What I really want is a tough and well made battery storage pack. Like the 4×18650 power packs with usb in and usb out, but not made of weak non-sealed plastic. I’d like it to be aluminium with o-ring and no space or money wasted for a flashlight.

The main things I want in it really are:
1.) aluminum ‘good’ construction; decent threads, can take protect or non protected 18650, O-ring seals).
2.) ‘good’ output; perhaps 1.5 amp output ability or so, ability to discharge to at least 3 volts
3.) ‘good’ input; any usb input plug is acceptable (prefer micro), but a decent charging routine 3a. CC/CV charging routine 3b. Actually charges the battery to 4.2 volts (or real close) 3c. I see a lot of stuff that ‘looks’ like this (sometimes with a cheap grade led in the end, don’t care for it but not a big deal), however they seem to have bad charging routines (terminate charge early, unstable charging routine is not CC/CV, or a both of those things and other problems as well).

If I understand correctly the roche F6 with charger head is a bit bulky (how much dose that actually weigh with only charger head?), but had a good charging routine and a good power output ability. Is this right?

Is there an option more well suited to what I’m trying to accomplish here?

2.) re edited : 4.1 even 4.05 volts would be ok
1.) re edited : Protected battery capability is not ‘necessary’

4.) Consistent is necessary, I don’t want a product with massive variation (one unit charges to 4.25 volts, the next charges to 3.9 volts, etc. a few of us will run these and we want the same stuff : )

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If I understand correctly the roche F6 with charger head is a bit bulky (how much dose that actually weigh with only charger head?)

Here are some pictures showing the weight of the components:


No clue about how far it charges/discharges, I don’t have a volt meter. I would assume that a dedicated charger would always give better and consistent results than a screw-on head that’s an accesoire to a flashlight. Can’t tell you much about the max output either, because I don’t own any ipads or other apple products. My phones (android/wp8) and my PS Vita charge with 1.1amp max.

Specification on the head says:
IN: 5V1A
OUT: 5V1A

But then, it charges the Vita, which is a feat in itself, as that device is very picky and won’t charge on my good quality USB wallcharger for example.

I’m not sure what you want to do with it. You can’t get the tube without the flashlight head as far as I know, so you’re always short of 30-40USD for a 3400mah (max) power bank. Dedicated power banks with that capacity are way cheaper than that. So is a Lipo guard storage bag. Using/storing USB plugs in wet condidtions isn’t a great idea either.

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Well I knew about the specification quoted for input/output, figuered about the ‘not buying it without flashlight head’.
I did not know about the weight, thanks a bunch for that information.

Yeah, it’s too much cost for what I want to use it for I suppose, mainly I don’t want to carry 80 grams of enclosure to carry another 40 grams of battery, this would go into our backpacks for the semi-long hike. ounces = pounds and pounds = PAIN, it’s cliche but it is so true.

Nice scale btw, like the pretty blue backlite, it takes pictures well

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I got the scale from fasttech: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1095103
I don’t use it regulary, but wanted to have a halfway exact scale for these kind of questions (I’m a bit into RC flying, where weighting your payload is useful).

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Just ordered another one from FT - my third one - because I just designed an RGBW driver board for the F6.

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Can anybody tell me why there is a hole in the F6 head, opposite the side switch?

Seems like they meant to put something there, like an indicator LED. It certainly isn’t waterproof….i can see the wires inside.

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dthrckt wrote:
Can anybody tell me why there is a hole in the F6 head, opposite the side switch?

Seems like they meant to put something there, like an indicator LED. It certainly isn’t waterproof….i can see the wires inside.

Mine has some type of metal insert there—it’s not exposed. I got my F6 from Fasttech the other day and I like it more than I thought I would.

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does the metal insert have any purpose?

makes me want to drill the hole large enough to put a female tripod mount there…

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dthrckt wrote:
does the metal insert have any purpose?

makes me want to drill the hole large enough to put a female tripod mount there…

Not that I can see. Maybe they use it for QC purposes at the factory. I thought maybe it was a magnet but it’s not. Did you get yours from BG? I wonder if there’s any difference between the F6 from the two sellers. The one I got is fantastic.

The tail of the light already has a tripod mount. I tried to take that out of the tail to save weight but ended up scratching it and figured I’d just leave it there.

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Got it from another member.

Perfect condition, I suspect he received it that way.

No complaints about the light aside from that, although the charger head LEDs could be aligned better with the holes (you have to look at an angle to see the light. pretty minor…

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I have a transparent plastic piece in there, and the driver has a low voltage warning LED. 

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AHH, I thought I saw mention of that, but couldn’t remember if that was YOUR driver or the stock one.

I guess I’ll just put a dab of clear silicone.

thanks!

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Sorry if i missed it in this thread, but could someone post a pic comparing the F6 size to one of the convoy tube lights S2-S8 ? Thanks

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I found this one in another thread, but others would be nice too. Especially looking for one showing the “head-on” or “Top-down” comparison of head diameters

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pilotdog68 wrote:
Sorry if i missed it in this thread, but could someone post a pic comparing the F6 size to one of the convoy tube lights S2-S8 ? Thanks

Really love the form factor of the F6. It would have been my favorite EDC if I had faith it was really waterproof. But after taking out the bottom slug to bypass the spring, I don’t think it is.

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tristanxoxo wrote:
pilotdog68 wrote:
Sorry if i missed it in this thread, but could someone post a pic comparing the F6 size to one of the convoy tube lights S2-S8 ? Thanks

Really love the form factor of the F6. It would have been my favorite EDC if I had faith it was really waterproof. But after taking out the bottom slug to bypass the spring, I don’t think it is.


Thanks! is the clip nice and sturdy? I normally like the screw-on type better than clip-on just because i trust it more.

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pilotdog68 wrote:
tristanxoxo wrote:
pilotdog68 wrote:
Sorry if i missed it in this thread, but could someone post a pic comparing the F6 size to one of the convoy tube lights S2-S8 ? Thanks

Really love the form factor of the F6. It would have been my favorite EDC if I had faith it was really waterproof. But after taking out the bottom slug to bypass the spring, I don’t think it is.


Thanks! is the clip nice and sturdy? I normally like the screw-on type better than clip-on just because i trust it more.

Yeah the screw-on ones are my favorite also, but it’s super sturdy…much more than the ones like on the Eagle-Eye X6 or ZeusRay (or similar)

From left to right: Convoy M1, Convoy S2, Roche F6, ZeusRay, Supfire S5. I took the Sk98 out of the line up because mine doesn’t tail stand. Also I replaced the reflector on the F6 and Supfire S5 to 10 degree TIR reflectors, so they look a bit different.

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Thanks for that. I’ll have to pick one up

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Everyone should own a Roche F6…it’s one of those lights that is GREAT stock…and is a very small form factor.

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Did the dr Jones driver ever get released?

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Actually no... Never (yet?) finished the firmware. Had big plans with it, got quite complex, stopped being fun to develop further, other projects became more interesting. Also I had put 2 status LEDs in there, which became somewhat pointless since they stopped producing them with that little plastic window.

I might redesign the driver without those LEDs, but instead with a bit more power. However I'm still not sure what UI to implement.

My RGBW-F6 driver however works fine in the F6.

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Cool. I won’t bother with this light unless your driver comes out. I have your drivers in a few of my lights. Won’t accept stock anymore!

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FWIW, Helios and Comfychair made a nice driver for the Roche F6, called the Ferrero Rocher. It uses a FET for high power, it has red and green indicator lights, and there are three firmwares available for it in my repository. More details are in this thread:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/30673

Mine uses a triple Nichia 219B, and it can put out anywhere from 0.1 to 1800 lumens with smooth visually-linear ramping between. I particularly like the realtime battery status indicators, which also act as a standby/locator light in the dark.

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which version has the battery control led? also-i see pics with usb charging port..anyone has it?

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The battery status LEDs are a custom modification.

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vresto wrote:
which version has the battery control led? also-i see pics with usb charging port..anyone has it?

I searched for a while to find the version with the battery indicator light. They haven’t made them with that option for a while now and there is no longer a place to purchase one with the indicator stock. But you can always do some modifying if you want that feature.

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