"YUPARD" 3 x XM-L ~~~ 4 x 18650 spotlight. ~~~ $35 (now $33.25) ~~~ Today Only! $29.75

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"YUPARD" 3 x XM-L ~~~ 4 x 18650 spotlight. ~~~ $35 (now $33.25) ~~~ Today Only! $29.75

I am calling this light the “YUPARD” 3 x XML just so it has a name. “YUPARD” is the name of the store I ordered it from.

Perhaps This Light is sold under different logos, but I thought the price was right for the form factor. The main selling point for me is the driver. I recognized it right away as the same one that is installed in the NAGE single and triple model.
If you like modding, you can do anything you like with this driver. It’s basically a big AMC 7135 board with lots of empty spots to add more chips. It’s fast becoming my favorite driver.
I have one light driving a single emitter at 5.5A, and a triple with 3.45A per emitter.
I’m not sure if I’ll keep this light as a triple or 5 x XM-L, if my reflector ever arrives.
I’m really curious about the electronic switch. By seeing where the the wiring is attached to the driver, it will give me an extra option of attaching a secondary switch to my other lights where there is an unused charging port.

I can tell you right now that the charging port on this light is of no use as it has no cut-off circuitry of any kind. I just disconnect it from the driver.

I think this may turn out to be a very frugal and modd-able torch.

Specifications:

  • Emitter Type: CREE XM-LT6
  • Brightness/Lumens: Max Output 5000 Lumens brightness
  • LED:3 x CREE XM-L T6 
  • Light Color: White
  • Lightbulb/LED Lifespan: 10,000 hours
  • Modes: 2
  • Mode Arrangement: Hi > Mid 
  • Lighting Distance: About 1000m
  • Battery Configuration: 4×18650 Batteries( Not Included)
  • Input Voltage:7.2-14.8V
  • Runtime: About 3 hours
  • Switch Type: Clicky/Clickie
  • Lens: Coated Glass Lens
  • Reflector: Aluminum Smooth/SMO Reflector 
  • Material: Aluminum Alloy
  • Color: Black 
  • Size(mm): 60mm(D) x 145mm(L)
  • Net Weight: 350g

Here is a shot of the same driver pulled out of one of my NAGE lights. Note the unused slots that can be used to add more AMC7135 chips. If you use all the spots up….you can stack some more.

Edited by: Ouchyfoot on 12/02/2013 - 09:28
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Very Nice!  2 modes, Hi & Mid?  Is this correct  on your other models with the same driver?  And how much lower is Mid expected to be (again, compared to your others).

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My single is: Hi-Med-Lo-Strobe-SOS.
My triple is: High-Higher-Highest – 1-2-3 rotation – Med – Low – SOS

These lights do not come with any charge port cables. That’s just as well as I believe someone would get hurt.

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Me likey!

Thanks for sharing.

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I may be old, but, I can't understand your modes for the triple. Once it's on, does 1 click turn it off? How many modes does it have? I'm not familiar with the NAGE, but I think you are describing 2 mode sets of 3 modes each, while this light is listed as just 2 modes?

Looks like you ordered one of these (Canada order placed today), so, is it just from the picture of the backside of the driver, you think it's the same 7135 based driver?

Edit: This does certainly look like a nice budget moddable 3 emitter light, but just would be nice to know about the modes because if using the existing driver, I'd be stuck with the factory modes. Thanks for the tip on this light!

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Ouchy, did you remove chips from those three spots or did they come pre-tinned like that? Also, can you give approximate depth/diameter of the reflector cups?

And thanks, I needed another light I want to buy like I need…another light I want to buy. <_< Though seriously, thanks, this does look like a cool light. Re-clock the head and it even looks like one could get to the button from the handle.

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Tom E wrote:

I may be old, but, I can’t understand your modes for the triple. Once it’s on, does 1 click turn it off? How many modes does it have? I’m not familiar with the NAGE, but I think you are describing 2 mode sets of 3 modes each, while this light is listed as just 2 modes?


Looks like you ordered one of these (Canada order placed today), so, is it just from the picture of the backside of the driver, you think it’s the same 7135 based driver?


Edit: This does certainly look like a nice budget moddable 3 emitter light, but just would be nice to know about the modes because if using the existing driver, I’d be stuck with the factory modes. Thanks for the tip on this light!


On this particular light, it says there are two modes. High and Medium.

NAGE triple

On my triple NAGE there are 7 modes.
High. – 1 x XML
Higher – 2 x XML
Highest – 3 x XML
Sequence – 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3
Med. – 3 x XML (PWM)
Low. – 3 x XML (PWM)
SOS. ___—-___—-___—-

After it is turned off for ten seconds…it comes back on in high.(1 x XML)

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The chinese specs are amazing as always Smile ;

“ Lighting Distance: About 1000m”

“ Brightness/Lumens: Max Output 5000 Lumens brightness”

Almost 1700lm from each xm-l t6, not bad! Smile

Looks like a nice build/host for the money though…

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TheGloriousTachikoma wrote:
Ouchy, did you remove chips from those three spots or did they come pre-tinned like that? Also, can you give approximate depth/diameter of the reflector cups?

And thanks, I needed another light I want to buy like I need…another light I want to buy. <_ though="" seriously="" thanks="" this="" does="" look="" like="" a="" cool="" light.="" re-clock="" the="" head="" and="" it="" even="" looks="" one="" could="" get="" to="" button="" from="" handle.="">
I can’t help you with measurements as I have just ordered this light today.
That driver picture is from my ULTRAFIRE JS-8054 ~ 1 x XML light. It came with seven chips. It is the same light as the NAGE 1 x XML which I also have. I believe when I crack open the NAGE, it will have fewer chips than the Ultrafire.

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So same driver, different number of chips? And forgive me, what is a NAGE?

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This is the site picture of the light in thE OP.

This is a picture of the driver that came with my two NAGES and my Ultrafire JS-8054.

I’m betting they are the same driver. That’s the only the reason I ordered it. My favorite 4 × 18650 parallel driver.

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Ahh, yes - I see the tracings are identical, besides the color, holes, etc., so good bet it is. Could be a different progam in the driver though, so maybe the modes are really different - maybe 2 listed, maybe 200 - I wouldn't count on much from the specs this seller lists. Besided the usual Chinese lumens stuff, the input voltage is not for parallel cells, but we know they are parallel from the pics.

So, mode selection is only during the power-on sequence, and it's a one click OFF?

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Tom E wrote:
So, mode selection is only during the power-on sequence, and it’s a one click OFF?

That’s right, one click on, half press to change modes, one click off. . Pretty straight forward. My single emitter Ultrafire/Nage models have five modes.
High-Medium-Low-Strobe-SOS. After ten seconds off it will always come back on in high.
My Nage triple came with 12 AMC7135 chips,(4 per emitter). I gave it 9 per emitter, for a total of 27.
My other three run off a rear clicky switch, so I really want to see where they wired in the side click. I may want to add another switch in the future to my others.
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What is the diameter of the driver?

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I think its 46mm.

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The price has gone down to $33.25 for one day, so I ordered another one. I’m thinking of ordering the 5 x XML model also (solarstorm clone), but it has a different driver.

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Ordered one - I'm good at adding and stacking 7135's Smile. Thanx Ouchy!

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You’ll Love that driver Tom. It’s a “chippers” dream.

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Sorry for the possibly silly question… so is this basically a SRK, with a handle, and a much more moddable driver?

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@ Ouchy,

That 8-legged chip to the left of the 7135s, that’s the chip that has the programming functions in it, correct? It looks identical to the ones on the 105C’s. Hypothetically, if this light does have a high-med only group…could one buy a 105C, unsolder the control chip from that, and install it onto this driver?

Of course one could theoretically just reprogram the chip but I take it that one of those inductive readers/writers is expensive?

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As far as hi-med goes. I hope that’s how it is. That’s perfect for me. I rarely use anything else.
I don’t know if you could do a straight swap of the leggy-thingy, I haven’t got that far yet in my learning. It’s probably hard to do without a hot air reflow station.

Talk to Comfychair. I think he told me you can piggyback a 105C and use it to control the modes.
I’d like to know how to do that also. I need good pictorials to truly understand how these things integrate.

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Well, my plan would be XM-L2's on copper, heavy wires, and up the amps a plenty with 7135's. It's 4 cells in parallel, so I'm not sure what you can really draw from them. If Ouchy was getting 3.45A to each emitter, that means you are drawing maybe 3A per cell, which is 12A total, maybe more because of loss's. I'm not sure how that's possible in a parallel cell setup, but I've never been in that territory before with parallel cells. I know I'm having troubles getting 4.5A from 3 cells in parallel in a Crelant 7G9, but it's a different animal (Nanjg driver, maybe problems with the host/ground return, etc.). I don't see any easy solution to controlling modes though - I'm just planning on living with it and boosting output, and having a nice carry version of a  over-driven SRK.

Scot - thats' exactly as see it, yes. Plus it's a good price.

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scotlarock wrote:
Sorry for the possibly silly question… so is this basically a SRK, with a handle, and a much more moddable driver?

It’s just another variant of the new wave of 4P 18650 soupcan light. The SRK has never held any appeal for me personally. This light looks to have better thermal management capabilities than an SRK.
…but, I haven’t received mine yet and torn it down.
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If Ouchy was getting 3.45A to each emitter, that means you are drawing maybe 3A per cell, which is 12A total, maybe more because of loss’s. I’m not sure how that’s possible in a parallel cell setup, but I’ve never been in that territory before with parallel cells.

My Nage triple gave me 3.45 emitter amps. from each of the three 9 chip banks.
My final tail reading with all three emitters on high is 8.55A. I hope the switch holds out OK.
I wonder if you could do a Zener diode mod with this driver?

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This looks awesome; it might have to be my first triple emitter.

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I’m wondering if the deep polished bezel ring might leave an outer halo

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Great, this might be just the light I’m looking for. Thanks for the info, guys.

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The 8.55A tail /3 is 2.85A per LED, but, maybe it's drawing 4.2v or so, but providing 3.5v or so per LED, that's why the actual LED amps is higher at 3.45A?

9 chips per LED, if they are 380's, is 3.42A at best, for 350's, it's 3.15A per LED. Usually 380's read low and 350's read high. Of course there are loss's along the way.

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The 3.45A readings were correct. Each sector was tested separately with the driver removed from the body and hooked up to a heat sinked XML using two fresh cells in parallel. I took readings as each chip was added to make sure it was working.

The series mode (1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3)at the tail shows 4.45A-4.46A-4.44A proving that each emitter is putting out that current individually.
I think when all three emitters are running on high at the same time, the law of diminishing returns comes into effect with a return of 8.55A.

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Ouchyfoot wrote:

My final tail reading with all three emitters on high is 8.55A. I hope the switch holds out OK.

I spoke too soon. The switch is on the way out. It started with a lag of a second or two before the light came on, then it wouldn’t come on at all. Sometimes if I set it down, it would eventually come on minutes later. I jumped the switch with a DMM lead, and it comes on no problem. I know that switch is rated for 1.5A.
Gotta look for a new switch.
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Many/some push 10-15A+ through these: 

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1009/10001865/1135000

http://intl-outdoor.com/omten-reverse-clicky-switch-pbs101-5-pcs-p-566.html

Looks similar, also rated 1,5A. But they seem to get the job done..  Smile

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