How to have peace of mind while charging your cells unattended

With all the talk about exploding Li-ion cells, it is hard not to become paranoid about the situation. Even though I charge my cell phone and iPad without any concern, I can’t help worrying about my 18650’s and 14500’s when they are charging. I’m not paranoid about it but rather superstitious. I am afraid that because I know of the issue, that by not doing anything about it, will cause it to happen.
From what I have read about the issue, it would seem that the biggest risk factor is overcharging. If the charger misses the cutoff voltage and the cell is overcharged, things can happen.
To minimize the risk, one should be sure to have good cells that are in good condition, a good charger, and one should be present during the charging process so any problems can be dealt with immediately. There have been many times that I have started charging cells with the intention of monitoring the process, perhaps doing something else, but still being present in the same room. Often times I would forget, and leave. Many times I would find myself suddenly realizing that I had left the charger on and I was now miles away. Common sense would tell me that everything would probably be OK, but there is always that slight chance……… :open_mouth: I hate that feeling.
One strategy that I use is the “cut my losses” strategy. That is do my charging in the car while I am driving. In that way, I am present during the charge. If anything goes wrong, at least I’m present. Second strategy is to charge in the car parked outside away from the house at night. Then if anything goes wrong, well, it’s only the car.
Even so, there are many times I need to charge cells in the house and knowing how it can go, I have rigged a setup that gives me some peace of mind.

What you see here is an in wall mechanical 1 hour timer installed in a metal junction box. The 2 chargers when plugged in will run for a maximum of 1 hour depending on how the timer is set. It might take a couple of sessions to fully charge depleted cells, but at least I don’t have to worry about something going wrong and having them over charged. For the times I need to charge more than 4 cells at a time, I can add a power strip.

Here is what it takes to build one. I will not show how to do the wiring because if someone does not know how to do this, they should not even try. The voltages involved are dangerous and this should only be done by qualified individuals. As they say on Myth Busters, “Do not try this at home!”
The parts:

Also needed is a metal junction box with rounded corners Rounded so as not to scratch the surfaces that the finished box is placed on.

I used a rectangular box with rounded corners in spite of the news of Apples recent court victory against Samsung :wink: Here is the story on that (It cost Samsung $290 million)

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2308671/samsung-dealt-usd290m-blow-in-apple-patent-infringement-case
Anyway, back to the real world, I had to make some modifications to the parts to install them in the junction box. These modifications are nothing new and are provided for by the parts makers when they manufacture them. It is not uncommon to mount this switch and receptacle in this box.
First I partially disassembled the timer to remove the mounting tabs.

The mounting tabs then come right off.

To mount the timer to the face plate, I had to file a sightly larger opening for the stem of the dial to fit.

I also had to file 2 more rounded corners for the timer to fit. (I hope Apple doesn’t find out) :bigsmile:

As with the switch, the mounting tabs on the receptacle have to be removed. It will not fit in the box as is.

Once again the manufacturer has made it easy to do, as there is a crimp already in place so that they will snap off with a twist.

The timer is held on with a nut and the receptacle is installed with the provided screws and nuts.

After installing the switch and receptacle, I wired in the cord and plug.

For the third time, I had to infringe on Apples patent! Notice I had to file 2 more rounded corners on the plastic dial plate! Rounded corners, what a great invention, Apple!

Remember, only a qualified individual should attempt the wiring.

Lastly, I installed rubber buttons on the bottom to help prevent scratching.

BTW, I find this timer to be useful when I use my chop saw or table saw. Anything that I use intermittently that I would be afraid to leave unattended. Also useful for the wife if she ever uses a steam iron, hair curler or electric heater.
How many times has anyone left their soldering iron plugged in? Lots of uses.

nicely done!

i have a nitecore i4 i carry with my in my edc bag that i charge cells at my desk at work… no issue there since i am at my desk all day usually

i have chargers at home that i usually just keep an eye on and regularly check on and check voltages, but the xtar wp6 ii has been reliable so far

Lipo fire resistant bags? Ebay search.

Could have used a timer on a hair curler years ago.
We’ve always had clothes irons with an auto shut off movement sensor of some type.

I forgot to mention the parasitic drain that a charger can cause while the cells are sitting in the cradle. My WF-139’s draw about 350uA when unpowered. That’s not a huge amount, but it’s not zero. Anyway the intent is not to leave them there for days at a time, only until you can get back to it.

Ha,ha - the third option, charge ’em at work. And besides, if there is a problem, there are plenty of extinguishers nearby :wink:

And a fourth! :slight_smile:

fire extinguishers? no idea where they are at at my office…

if something explodes/burns down i will just go home LOL.

So if its essential to use a good charger, why do you still use the WF139?

While it charges OK, its built unsafe on the inside.

On your timer.. you can also buy similar ones fully assemlbed, at least in Germany for about 10€.

No need to be paranoid about charging LiIon cells, as you said, you arent paranoid about charging smartphone or laptop. But those use quality cells and quality charging circuits. While you have quality cells (Sanyo and Sony I guess? the light blue ones could be Samsung or Maxell), I wouldnt trust the charger. I use unprotected cells and an Xtar WP2 and I let them charge unattended.. in the house.

I of course have failsafe plan. Here are my 2 lab technicians closely monitoring the process. One is monitoring voltages, whilst the other is watching the clock, waiting for their next lunch break.

NightCrawl, you proudly declare you use an Xtar WP2. How do you know it’s not fake………, yeah, are you sure?

You say you leave it running at the house unattended.

Do you know what the farmer said when the cow died? - “That’s funny he never did that before.”

sounds like the municipal workers that belong to some kind of trade guild :wink:

I know it is genuine because I bought it in Germany from a reputable seller who is official Xtar dealer.

That video is fake.

I charge my HTC One unattended, charger made in China, battery and charging circuit probably also.

Looks like you need to do a bit of reading on Apple v Samsung too :slight_smile:

Chris

I like your lab technicians! :smiley:

A backup lab technician of the canine persuasion might be useful tho.

But the grey one would be trying to sit on my lap and the black one would be busy napping on her heated cat pad.

If a cell was going to granade I don’t think Id want it to happen in my car next to me while I’m driving down the road…

or next to my loyal cats

just make sure you have a decent charger, get a lipo bag and your set

I have always wondered why the ultra paranoid don't simply charge in a metal box with a timer in the fireplace .

I have one charger that always terminates at 4.15 or so ...it used to bother me but now I see it as a plus .I can always finish the cells in front of me in another charger that tops out at 4.21

A metal box needs to be able vent quickly tho otherwise it can burst open. Maybe a lose bungee cord it keep the lid from just flying open.
A fireplace is ideal if you have one.

I always charge my lithiums in one of these: http://dx.com/p/fireproof-lipo-lithium-polymer-battery-safety-guard-bag-45845

Nice build, but somethings always makes me wonder with these posts.

Where does the notion stem from, that because you are in the room/car/house/garage you will surely notice "something" odd and stop the charging, move the offending battery/charger outside and be safe?

To me it seems just as likely that you would hear or smell something, go over to the charger, and have it blow up in your face! Just saying.

Personally I'm paranoid enough to stay away when charging. Everything set up as safely as circumstances allows and then walk away. I come back when I think it is finished charging.

Just my opinion. Not trying to rain on your parade at all. It is good that you are careful and thoughtful in your dealings with these things and I wish more people would think it over how and where they use electrical appliances.

+1

You can tell a lot about what someone really believes (or yourself) by how they act. I have no problem charging a cell when I am nearby. Apparently I, and many others don’t believe there will be a problem.
The idea of this post was not which charger is best, or cell, but rather another way for someone that is overly concerned to have some piece of mind. As I said, from what I have read, the most common cause of charging mishaps is overcharging. Think of the timer as a dead mans switch.

BTW, I really like the idea of the LiPo bags. Helios, your avatar looks just like one of my assistants.