read this thread about keeppower putting chinese cells in their batteries…
and labeling some of them as japanese batteries……
the accusation is that this has been going on for years….
they claim that it is a “stupid mistake”… lol
and they do admit mislabeling batteries……
it has not been proven that they
did it on purpose….
and there is a language barrier……
so now more evidence needs to be uncovered….
check your old keeppower batteries….
if they say “cell made in japan”
but the cell inside is made in china….
then you got defrauded….
if the label says IC made in japan,
that is referring to the protection circuit,
and not the cell…… and there is
probably a chinese cell inside with no fraud…
chinese batteries can have good capacity…
but japanese cells should have better quality…
and should last for many more recharging cycles…
here is the link to the thread with the photos of fake batteries…
Every time we find a “reliable” name for batteries, we find out sooner or later we’re getting the shaft.
If KeeperPower has all the different brands in their facility then I don’t want to deal with them any longer. Once a cell leaves their factory, they have no say as to how they are advertised. I have no desire to test every new cell for capacity, and I certainly don’t have the time to deal with the reseller if I find I threw my money away. My use for batteries rely on proper rating. I use them for lighting on my bike and I have to rely on runtime. There can be NO question as to what I am buying. And it won’t be KeepPower cells any more. Thanks for bringing this to light!
why dont someone sell bare cells with no wrapper, then we can wrap them up with what ever brand we like? you want panny 3400s? bam, you got it. want trustfire flames? here ya go. want an ultrafire? whats wrong with you?
Why is that so hard to believe? If you had to stick the correct labels on cells for the Chinese market could you guarantee not making mistakes?
What matters is that they fix the factors which led to the mistake happening in the first place and improve the clarity of their labelling.
Keeppower are still the most reputable brand for commercially purchased li-ion cells, I am confident that they haven’t been deliberately ripping anyone off. Bear in mind that most of the top name brands are actually keeppower anyway.
You are starting to look a bit silly with your ever more extreme claims, which is probably a good thing if you’re going to carry on with them.
I dont think Keeppower uses fake Panasonic cells or such, but that was not just a little error. It was like that for maybe 2 years, thats far beyond a simple mistake. Most reputable brand? Not for me. Enerpower is the way to go.
After reading about this here and the other thread, I had to check mine so I peeled back the label and cut a hole. Now, I’d like to remove the black completely but will the protection circuit on the end still be captive under the green or outside of it?
Actually keeppower makes some batteries with black wrapper and clear wrapper and I even showed examples up the thread. Keeppower is not the only company making batteries with black wrappers.
I agree it was a stupid mistake to make, and should have been corrected earlier, but I’m willing to believe that it was no more than that.
The thing is that they weren’t counterfeit cells, they didn’t make any claims about what brand the cell was, the main claim was in capacity, which both the Sanyo and DLG cells met. The only claim on the cell which was incorrect were the words ’Cell and’, as the IC was made in Japan by SEIKO.
They wrap cells which are the same size and both with exactly the same label apart from those two words in relatively small print, and that small print is in a foreign language which a number of their employees don’t even speak, so it’s not to hard for me to see how a mistake could have been made.
That said, I still agree with you that it shouldn’t have happened. They needed to explain the issue and how they are going to correct it, but they seem to have been actively trying to do so. I don’t think it’s fair to just keep insulting them when they are already trying to explain why it happened and fix the issue for the future.
Was it really over two years though? I don’t remember Keeppower 14500s even being commercially available for that long, and they certainly did label some past 14500s as only IC and not cell made in Japan. What is this 2 year claim based upon?
I don’t want manufactures or the downstream distributors/vendors to think they can get away with misrepresentation. The language barrier is a weak excuse. I’m certain they have a firm grasp of payment systems despite language barriers. In return for the robust profit margins they receive we should have assurance of product integrity!
@cat eyes: While I partially agree with you, your posts are very hard to read.. and make you seem less smart than you might be.
HKJ posted his review of KP 14500 on 31.03.2012, thats not far from 2 years, is it?
In the other thread, you posted that you got 14500s labelled "cell and IC made in Japan" but found a blue cell, and you still think it was just a mistake?
