This Securitying Flashlighter (lolwut?) is insane

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This Securitying Flashlighter (lolwut?) is insane

No pics of the discarded stock parts here, they're documented in other threads.

 

Driver tweaks - limiting resistors deleted, LED+ moved over to the BAT+ pad

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06711.jpg

22AWG wiring:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06712.jpg

XML2 T6 3Bs. Original centering rings trimmed down so they no longer poke up into the reflectors, blocking lots of light:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06710.jpg

 

So does it work?

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06750.jpg

Here's a 3A P60, a bone stock unmodified CQG SRK, and then the Securitying Flashlighter:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/anim-close.gif

 

Same lights at my normal beamshot location, 200' pecan trees, distance about 450-500ft:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/p60.jpg

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/srk-high.jpg

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/securitying-high.jpg

SRK modes:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/srk-modes.gif

Securitying Flashlighter modes:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/securitying-modes.gif

 

Yes, the Securitying's medium is brighter than the good SRK on high...

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/high-vs-mid.gif

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Nice!!! but man.. that are a lot of wires right there....

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My simple copper wire resistor bridge did wonders as well .

Thanks for the 'insane' pics .

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I really felt left out and alone Sad

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I really felt left out and alone :(

You should try again... or, keep raising hell until you get what you paid for. These are better quality than the absolute junk versions FT has been shipping at about the same price.

I want to pick up a few more but I'm nervous about doing so until your situation gets resolved.

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Can you tell me if there’s an easy way to make this SRK ‘do the biz’?

I ordered it from Amazon – vendor ‘WorthTrust’. No mention of SecurityIng, just Sky Ray King. Came in a white box…very unimpressive performance.

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Yes, there are three 1206 resistors over at the left, outboard of the black square thing (FET), hidden by the wires. Jumper across any of the three to crank it up.

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comfychair wrote:

dchomak wrote:
I really felt left out and alone Sad

You should try again… or, keep raising hell until you get what you paid for. These are better quality than the absolute junk versions FT has been shipping at about the same price.

I want to pick up a few more but I’m nervous about doing so until your situation gets resolved.

I ordered from chinavally and it was shipped by Amazon. Trouble is, there are about 70 Amazon fulfillment centers across the word. Apparently, some will ship the Securityling, others a Skyray. Mine came in a pouch, not a box. There was a label on it that said “Securityling” but inside was a Skyray. This is a fault of Amazon, not chinavally.
I am really, really pissed. More so every time I see someone else flaunt off how good his is or has become. Wink

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Thanks Comfy! Doesn’t matter which?

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dchomak wrote:
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dchomak wrote:
I really felt left out and alone :(

You should try again... or, keep raising hell until you get what you paid for. These are better quality than the absolute junk versions FT has been shipping at about the same price.

I want to pick up a few more but I'm nervous about doing so until your situation gets resolved.

I ordered from chinavally and it was shipped by Amazon. Trouble is, there are about 70 Amazon fulfillment centers across the word. Apparently, some will ship the Securityling, others a Skyray. Mine came in a pouch, not a box. There was a label on it that said "Securityling" but inside was a Skyray. This is a fault of Amazon, not chinavally. I am really, really pissed. More so every time I see someone else flaunt off how good his is or has become. ;)

http://www.amazon.com/shops/ePathDirect - I see some feedback there where Amazon has resolved problems, I don't know whether you get more protection ordering direct from Amazon or thru ebay. You need to convince the seller that they should be putting a foot in Amazon's ass to fix this, it's bad for you but worse for them if it keeps happening.

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tallboybass wrote:
Thanks Comfy! Doesn't matter which?

All three are in parallel, so it doesn't matter.

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Nice Comfy! Thanks for sharing.

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comfychair wrote:

No pics of the discarded stock parts here, they’re documented in other threads.

 

Driver tweaks – limiting resistors deleted, LED+ moved over to the BAT+ pad

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06711.jpg

22AWG wiring:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06712.jpg

XML2 T6 3Bs. Original centering rings trimmed down so they no longer poke up into the reflectors, blocking lots of light:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06710.jpg

 

So does it work?

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/Dsc06750.jpg

Here’s a 3A P60, a bone stock unmodified CQG SRK, and then the Securitying Flashlighter:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/anim-close.gif

 

Same lights at my normal beamshot location, 200’ pecan trees, distance about 450-500ft:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/p60.jpg

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/srk-high.jpg

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/securitying-high.jpg

SRK modes:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/srk-modes.gif

Securitying Flashlighter modes:

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/securitying-modes.gif

 

Yes, the Securitying’s medium is brighter than the good SRK on high…

http://75.65.123.78/securitying_flashlighter/anim/high-vs-mid.gif

That securitying driver reminds me of something awful familiar. It looks like a giant East-092 driver. Has that similar 2 pin big regulator and smaller 8 pin computing IC. Plus 2 or 3 resistors and what looks like a zener type diode at C2.

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I've thought about that too, specifically how the bad versions of the East-092 manage to be such crap even with a good FET swapped in. One day I'll get back to figuring out how to make those work like they should...

 

p.s. Holy crap dude, no reason to include all 37 pictures in the quote! lol xD

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I wanted to make your thread look very long and important. Wink

Sorry, I didn’t want people to think I was referring to the black srk driver that was also posted. But it does look like the exact same components as the East-092. And I think the lame east-092 accidentaly had a different 2 pin regulator transistor.

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Ordered one through chinavally, delivered by Amazon’s epathdirect, but got a Skyray King – no XM-L2’s.
Now Amazon is sending me e-mails, offering me the Securitylng!
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4 versions and 4 prices.
Checking each listing separately, it seems from the description or the pictures that the first is a 4 emitter XM-L
the second is a 3 emitter XM-L2
the third is a 3 emitter Skyray King with XM-L, but the box in the background is for a Securitylng. (this is the one I got)

There is not any discrimination between XM-L and XM-L2, nor between Securitylng and Skyray

This is hopeless…………….

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Bought under this item#? http://www.ebay.com/itm/161124048043

Is the seller not willing to yell at Amazon for you? Is there any way to go directly to Amazon, or does having ebay as (another) middleman rule that out?

Mine shipped from 172 Trade St. Lexington KY same as yours, but I got the same light & box as O-L.

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I feel bad that dchomak didn't get the light he wanted . Especially since this light after a resistance mod is so badass . Now I feel pretty lucky that I got a good version . If I knew I would get another one like my example , I would order a couple more .

Can't stop playing with this thing .

heh heh ( don't mean to gloat , dchomak )

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Knowing now that it's not solely down to which warehouse it ships from, I don't know if that makes me more confident or less confident... crap.

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With such an easy mod ability , I'll bet this driver would be a good retrofit for a lot of SRK clones .

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comfychair wrote:

Yes, there are three 1206 resistors over at the left, outboard of the black square thing (FET), hidden by the wires. Jumper across any of the three to crank it up.


Does this essentially turn it into DD? Would there still be a low mode?

Sorry, there is so much on this thread that I don’t understand. Shocked

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Bought under this item#? http://www.ebay.com/itm/161124048043

Is the seller not willing to yell at Amazon for you? Is there any way to go directly to Amazon, or does having ebay as (another) middleman rule that out?

Mine shipped from 172 Trade St. Lexington KY same as yours, but I got the same light & box as O-L.

Yes that is the site. Based on the fact that yours came from the same warehouse, I ordered another. This time I will video record the “unboxing”
My first one did not come in a retail box, but rather a bag with a tag.


They have not sold very many according to this buying history.

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Direct drive, through whatever limitation of the other components. Not the same as the battery wired straight to the LED, the components can have a pretty big impact on how close or far it actually is from the numbers it would do if wired direct. Modes still work, high is just the MCU commanding 100% full on, and the other modes are based on a percentage of that, by PWM/duty cycle switching. The average of the on time/off time gives the reduced current/output.

The 3-mode 'Securitying' (SecurityLng? silly ambiguous fonts...) driver isn't perfect by any means but it's better than the standard high-low SRK driver. The PWM on lower modes is still there, but it appears to be about half as severe. The low isn't very low. And it really needs some hot rod cells for there to be a reasonable spread between high and mid, otherwise mid runs at the current the driver calls for but high falls a bit short, and that causes it to look like the mid mode is too high.

I don't know what this thing is pulling on high mode, it's more than my meters are happy with. And that's something I've not run into before.

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I'm using the Panasonic NCR18650PF Protected 2900mAh in my light ,they seem to be working fine .

This light does drain these batteries fairly rapidly , though .

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I'm using Samsung 20Rs. What I mean is, with plain Samsung 28As, even charged to the full 4.3v, it still does the same 1.5A on low and 6A on medium, but high is only 10A while with the 20Rs it's some large amount higher than that which I'm not able to measure. With non-hot rod cells the high will be too close to what it does on medium.

Typically, good mode spacing is something like 100%-30%-3% to look 'normal', this driver is programmed more like 100-50-25%.

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dchomak wrote:
Based on the fact that yours came from the same warehouse, I ordered another.

I just ordered two more, for, um, 'research'. Yeah, that's it.

 

Any thoughts about getting the driver to work with 8.4v? Eight IMR 18350s? Evil

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dchomak wrote:
Yes that is the site. Based on the fact that yours came from the same warehouse, I ordered another. This time I will video record the "unboxing" My first one did not come in a retail box, but rather a bag with a tag.

What's tracking showing on yours? Mine's weird - didn't originate from KY like before. USPS says:

January 3, 2014 , 8:40 pm

Arrived Shipping Partner Facility

COMPTON, CA 90220 

January 4, 2014 , 5:19 am

Departed Shipping Partner Facility

COMPTON, CA 90220 

If they're in bags like your first one, and not in the 'Securitying' boxes, I'm not even opening the bags.

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This is getting weirder each time. At least the bag my first one came in was clear on one side. It is possible to see what is inside before it is opened. I don’t have a good feeling about this…………

On the other hand, I was the only one who received a Skyray. Perhaps as long as a “Securitylng” is shipped we are going to be OK.

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Oh yeah I forgot about this, but I didn't get a tracking number in the 'Your item is marked as shipped' email from Ebay. But go to your purchase history page, and there will be a tracking number shown there. No idea why it wasn't in the email.

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Another thread I missed while away enjoying myself. Wow. I’m glad you dont live in my neighbourhood comfychair. We have total fire bans on at the moment. Your Securitying Flashlighter is the last thing we need here setting the bush on fire. Nice light.

 

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