CLOSED! Group Buy: Starry Light SA-22 BLF Edition (NW emitter, better modes, faster PWM, BLF logo)

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I’m sorry, but i hate it, its terrible Sad

If Bort hates it, it has to be good!   Evil


How do you know that Bort is not a graphic design artist who designs logos and packaging?

Bort is not, but if that were used for a mass market product i am sure it will be despised, its hideous and belongs on a list of failed products

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In for one !

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Count me in on one of these. Only read the first couple posts though..

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How about a BLF logo competition?

Never ever forget and forgive. Niwal**er new kid on the block trying to act tough.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/24847
Do not support this brand.

DINODIRECTSCAM COMPANY. DO NOT BUY
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/11324?page=2#comment-254983

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Count me in too…

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I am in for 1 Smile

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Some answers:

- Tint will be 3C 

- Holster is included

- BLF logo will be just "BLF"-text printed to the head of the light

- Logo printing is optional -> it's possible to order the light without BLF logo

 

Ps. Ric got a pre-production sample, which is still CW and without memory. He says the quality is good and threads seem to be smooth & totally ok, but he'll send that to me with DHL, so I can check those too..

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I would love one! Smile

Thx for the opportunity!

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Looks like you have some movement on figuring out is this Group Buy will fly

Thanks for doing this

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- Tint will be 3C 

 

 

DAM...was really wanting a 4C.  

Still in though.

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I’m in for 1 also, pending review of the sample

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I was really wanting 4C too for gifts, others have commented on the warm 4C tint I have and like it. Since I have not tried 3C before, intended recipients haven’t seen it, and the head issue seems to not really be mentioned, I’d probably reduce from 2-4 for gifts to 1 if its 3C. Prob would increase to 4 if both addressed!

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Sounds good so far. Will be in for 1 or 2 after the review. Thanks.

How bright is bright enough...

Runtime VS Lumens...

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better modes
0.2% of 880 lumens is 1.76 lumens which I would find pretty useless myself Also any chance of OP reflector? That would be high on my list of wants for this light as it would eliminate any chances of a crappy beam pattern leading me to give it away and writing it off as a loss/wasted money. *edit* The lowercase "h" in "STARRY LIGhT" looks like a unnoticed error by the manufacturer.

0.2% mode provides enough light for many tasks, and very long runtime (rough estimate would be over 17 days of light!)

OP reflector would be a nice addition, but I doubt it's doable. I'll ask anyways. (Stippling it yourself is always an option)

I suppose 'h' is part of their logo design, as it's that way in all the logos..

Do they do 0.2% of lumens or current?  I'd bet it's current, which means it would be a lot more than 0.2% of lumens.

The low mode should be lower.

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3c is almost too warm, but I’m still in pending review.

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0.2% of 880 lumens is 1.76 lumens which I would find pretty useless myself Also any chance of OP reflector? That would be high on my list of wants for this light as it would eliminate any chances of a crappy beam pattern leading me to give it away and writing it off as a loss/wasted money. edit The lowercase “h” in “STARRY LIGhT” looks like a unnoticed error by the manufacturer.

0.2% mode provides enough light for many tasks, and very long runtime (rough estimate would be over 17 days of light!)

OP reflector would be a nice addition, but I doubt it’s doable. I’ll ask anyways. (Stippling it yourself is always an option)

I suppose ‘h’ is part of their logo design, as it’s that way in all the logos..

Do they do 0.2% of lumens or current?  I’d bet it’s current, which means it would be a lot more than 0.2% of lumens.


i figure it would be about 3 lumens, which is not at all bad, its probably about average for incandescent bulb flashlights

The Journal of Alternative Facts

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I’m in for one.

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leaftye wrote:

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ezarc wrote:
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better modes
0.2% of 880 lumens is 1.76 lumens which I would find pretty useless myself Also any chance of OP reflector? That would be high on my list of wants for this light as it would eliminate any chances of a crappy beam pattern leading me to give it away and writing it off as a loss/wasted money. edit The lowercase “h” in “STARRY LIGhT” looks like a unnoticed error by the manufacturer.

0.2% mode provides enough light for many tasks, and very long runtime (rough estimate would be over 17 days of light!)

OP reflector would be a nice addition, but I doubt it’s doable. I’ll ask anyways. (Stippling it yourself is always an option)

I suppose ‘h’ is part of their logo design, as it’s that way in all the logos..

Do they do 0.2% of lumens or current?  I’d bet it’s current, which means it would be a lot more than 0.2% of lumens.

i figure it would be about 3 lumens, which is not at all bad, its probably about average for incandescent bulb flashlights

So what’s the best guess on lumens?
3, 30, 300, 880? Or something like that?

Comparing it to other 4xAA flashlights, a listed time of 2 hrs 15 minutes for 880 lumens did seem a bit optimistic. For reference, some test results for other 4xAA flashlights:
Jetbeam PA40: 2.5 hrs at 468 lumens
Sunwayman D40A: 1.7 hours at 550 lumens.

Clearly, this light won’t be as good as those. To expect 880 lumens instead of their 500ish was rather “optimistic” on their part. So relatively, 40 minutes or so at 880 lumens isn’t so bad.

What I think will be more interesting/useful is the Medium mode. The listed medium on the factory-standard Starry Light is 400 lumens at 4 hours 40 minutes, or 150 lumens for 12 hours. More realistically:
Jetbeam PA40: 220 lumens for 6 hours
Sunwayman D40A: 220 lumens, 4 hours

Relatively, assuming Starry Light is overstating their ratings by a factor of three, you’re looking at a Mid of 400 lumens for 1.5 hours, or 150 lumens for 4 hours. Either way, I think that compares very favorably with the other two models.

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Bort wrote:
leaftye wrote:

_the_ wrote:

ezarc wrote:
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better modes
0.2% of 880 lumens is 1.76 lumens which I would find pretty useless myself Also any chance of OP reflector? That would be high on my list of wants for this light as it would eliminate any chances of a crappy beam pattern leading me to give it away and writing it off as a loss/wasted money. *edit* The lowercase "h" in "STARRY LIGhT" looks like a unnoticed error by the manufacturer.

0.2% mode provides enough light for many tasks, and very long runtime (rough estimate would be over 17 days of light!)

OP reflector would be a nice addition, but I doubt it's doable. I'll ask anyways. (Stippling it yourself is always an option)

I suppose 'h' is part of their logo design, as it's that way in all the logos..

Do they do 0.2% of lumens or current?  I'd bet it's current, which means it would be a lot more than 0.2% of lumens.

i figure it would be about 3 lumens, which is not at all bad, its probably about average for incandescent bulb flashlights

That's in the ballpark.  I'd like to say I'm in for one if the review is good, but I'm hoping the top post gets updated or pm's get sent out because I'm not going to even try following this thread that's already a hundred posts long even though the gb is still a long ways from kicking off.

Let me throw some calculations into this.  Using the Cree calculator, 880 emitter lumens would be achieved with somewhere between 2.35A and 2.40A, and 0.2% of that is 4.7mA.  That's the same as my XinTD X3 from IOS. 

The low mode should be lower.

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I’m in for ONE, without the BLF logo Smile

Lights out! That's when things get interesting...

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is it possible demand will exceed supply here? How would that work?

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is it possible demand will exceed supply here? How would that work?

A crazy haircut competition.
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saypat wrote:
is it possible demand will exceed supply here? How would that work?

That's a good question. I think the manufacturer can provide a larger batch (or two batches) if needed, but I'll check it anyways.

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Ejected Filament wrote:
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is it possible demand will exceed supply here? How would that work?

A crazy haircut competition.

i am unfamiliar with such a competition, should one have long or short hair?

The Journal of Alternative Facts

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of Alternative Facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists."

 

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Bort wrote:
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is it possible demand will exceed supply here? How would that work?

A crazy haircut competition.

i am unfamiliar with such a competition, should one have long or short hair?

Yes.
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or no

its up to the judges. I have no idea who the judges are, but they could be decided by a crazy haircut competition.

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or no

its up to the judges. I have no idea who the judges are, but they could be decided by a crazy haircut competition.


thats very circular, so in order to move things along and actually get lights sold i am declaring myself the only judge and will allow one light per (person, zombie or abominable snowman) at double the list price
If there are any vampire customers then their order comes with free garlic or garlic repellant (depending on my mood at the time)

The Journal of Alternative Facts

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of Alternative Facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists."

 

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_the_ wrote:

saypat wrote:
is it possible demand will exceed supply here? How would that work?

That's a good question. I think the manufacturer can provide a larger batch (or two batches) if needed, but I'll check it anyways.

They replied that  it's not a problem. [Even though I would like to see the crazy haircut competition.. Or maybe that would give Jack an unfair advantage? ;)]

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leaftye wrote:
the gb is still a long ways from kicking off.

I’ve never done a group buy like this – assuming it actually goes through, what sort of time frame are we talking about – weeks? Months? Years?

BTW, if it’s years, we could have some truly epic crazy hair competitions.

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Any idea as to when the review will happen?

weeks, month, minutes.Tongue Out

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