New Peak Eiger Ultra high CRI emitter

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New Peak Eiger Ultra high CRI emitter

I just received my Peak Eiger Ultra yesterday.

I ordered it this way:

Description: Eiger Ultra ,
Body Material: Hard Anodized Aluminum — ,
LED Color: High-color Rendering Index (CRI) ,
Optical Type: Medium ,
Body Style: Key Chain

I never had a High CRI LED before so I took a chance and ordered it on the Ultra.
The Optical type I choose was medium, since I didn’t understand the differences and any emails with questions sent to them were ignored.

Observations:
1.) I put in a 10440 unprotected Ultrafire blue into the flashlight.
2.) I noticed that the light color is similar to sunlight, more yellow than white.
3.) The light beam was diffused not a focused spot.
4.) The lens was not clear but had a diffusion pattern on it. It is more translucent than clear.
5.) It is not as bright as expected. Is this because of the high CRI LED?

Here is a picture of it. It was difficult to take.

So my question is: What does Optical Type Medium mean?
Peak doesn’t seem to answer emails.

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It might have a beam of 20 degrees as opposed to a spot with 10 or flood with 40. They can vary from there but that’s an ok range.

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post links to this

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This is where I ordered my Peak Eiger Ultra:

http://peakledsolutions.net/pocket_lights/pocket_lights/eiger_ultra.html

It is somewhat cryptic to me on how and what to order, especially if you are a newbie. I emailed them once with questions about what the difference was between medium and narrow optics and what a long tail cap vs. a short tail cap is, as well as other questions but never got a reply. If they don’t like answering those kind of questions, it would be helpful to newbies to have a FAQ page.

Other sites that sell light stuff are just as cryptic to me. I guess they just don’t like to deal with newbies.

After some digging around, this is what I found:

You have to order the key chain body style if you are planning to put a momentary tail switch on it, which they also sell on their site.

Cool white is a lot brighter than high CRI, but colors appear more natural under CRI.

I choose the medium optical type rather than the narrow. I’m assuming that the narrow has the clear lens and the medium has a translucent honeycomb diffuser on it. The narrow optical will be more brighter in terms of concentrating the light into more of a spot than spreading it wider. I figure for walking on a trail, the medium would be better. If I was looking at something small on the table, I figure the narrow optics would be better.

The light uses a QTC so when you tighten the head, it gets brighter, and when you loosen it, it gets dimmer. I’m not sure how the tail switch works when using it with a QTC flashlight. I think it might push down on the battery so it get brighter, just like tightening the head.

Also I’m not sure how the light will work over all when adding a Ti Clip to it. I heard it may not reach max brightness with the clip on it and you have to tighten the head a little more from the Ti Clip place.

I got the Ti Clip from:
http://darksucks.com/store%20DS_PeakClip.html

I ordered my tail switch from Peak, but I think I should of ordered the clip screw version from Oveready:
http://www.oveready.com/peak-flashlights/peak-stainless-momentary-switch...

I’m guessing that they drill and tap a small hole at the end of the brass plunger, and put a tiny bolt and washer (s) in to adjust the length of the plunger. They only need to increase the length of the plunger depth by the thickness of the Ti Clip, maybe a little more for varying battery lengths.

Anyways, this is what I found out so far. I hope this information helps other people who maybe interesting in getting this light.

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OUCH!!!!!!

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B25364 wrote:
you should post your questions BEFORE you pay $70
for a $20 light.

see olight i3


A Peak bears no resemblance to a $20 Chinese light, you obviously have never handled one or dealt with their excellent CS, nothing like being able to pick up the phone and chat to the owner. I’ve even had one off lights made by them using specialised LEDs for specialised application at work. These are not mass produced Chinese light

What other light lets you replace the battery underwater? Sound like you have no experience of Peak.

You’re comparing a Kia with a Mercedes Benz, the only similarity is they will both get you from point A to B.

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The reason it looks yellow is because it’s a warm white tint.

The tint options are cool, neutral, and high CRI. Warmer LED’s generally have a higher CRI so instead of saying it’s warmer, the company put high CRI.

An XP-G LED powered with a single AAA or 10440 isn’t going to be bright. I’d estimate about 100-250 lumens.

A XM-L/XM-L2 LED powered with a 18650 at 3.0A would give about 800 lumens.

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fartybum wrote:
B25364 wrote:
you should post your questions BEFORE you pay $70
for a $20 light.

see olight i3


A Peak bears no resemblance to a $20 Chinese light, you obviously have never handled one or dealt with their excellent CS, nothing like being able to pick up the phone and chat to the owner. I’ve even had one off lights made by them using specialised LEDs for specialised application at work. These are not mass produced Chinese light

What other light lets you replace the battery underwater? Sound like you have no experience of Peak.

You’re comparing a Kia with a Mercedes Benz, the only similarity is they will both get you from point A to B.

Tell me please, where is the purpose of orings if you can change batteries underwater?

Oh, i can sell you a sipik68 clone for 200$ and you can call me anytime of the day and we will have a chat! Big Smile

Finaly, proud owner of a Powerex Maha mh c-9000 for my Eneloops:)

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fartybum wrote:
dealt with their excellent CS

I tried that once, it did not solve anything.

My website with reviews of many chargers and batteries (More than 1000): https://lygte-info.dk/

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Why reprimand me B25364 for buying the Peak Eiger Ultra?

You sound like you really like the Oilight i3. I don’t insult you for only having one flashlight right?

I have two Preon P1’s, two Streamlight Microstream C4, Tank 007 E10, FOURSEVENS Quark Turbo QB2L-X Gen 1, and now a Peak Eiger Ultra. ( I forgot to mention a Veleno Design Quantum D2 and a LED converted two AA Maglite )

I am still waiting for my Tank 007 E09 and TrustFire MINI-03 to arrive from Malaysia.

I have found that each of them have strengths and weaknesses. I like to customize and improve them. Nothing wrong with that.

I am going to pick up an Oilight i3 to see why you like it so much.

Please post a link where I can get an Oilight i3 for $20.

Comparing a $20 flashlight to a Peak is exactly like comparing a Kia to a Mercedes. No matter how great you say your Kia is, it’s still not a Mercedes. Some people also own more than one car. Nothing wrong with that either.

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Must i repeat? How do you change batteries underwater? Pics or it didn’t happen.

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koyotee wrote:
Must i repeat? How do you change batteries underwater? Pics or it didn’t happen.

I really want to see that too. Will make my day!

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Of course I am going to get an Oilight i3. You said it was really good, so I am curious.

I just don’t know where to buy one for $20.

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satow wrote:

Peak doesn’t seem to answer emails.
I don’t get that really. You’re saying how great their CS is and you can call their boss anytime, well CALL HIM and stop selling us BS!!!!!

Finaly, proud owner of a Powerex Maha mh c-9000 for my Eneloops:)

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Actually the Peak Eiger Ultra is a very nice light compared to my other flashlights. I’ve been playing around with it and I can understand why people like it so much. It’s lightweight, medium light throw is great for hiking around at night, high CRI is a nice feature and makes colors look more natural. It’s still pretty bright compared to my cool white Preon P1 running a 10440. For intensity, the Streamlight Microlight C4 seems to be the most focused and intense.

koyotee wrote:
satow wrote:
Peak doesn’t seem to answer emails.
I don’t get that really. You’re saying how great their CS is and you can call their boss anytime, well CALL HIM and stop selling us BS!!!!!

I didn’t say Peak’s customer service was great. I didn’t say you could call their boss anytime. I’m not selling you anything. I said that they don’t seem to answer newbie emails.

Obviously you don’t read English very well.

Look at who posted those comments before accusing people.

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Sorry my mistake!

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koyotee wrote:
Sorry my mistake!

No problem. Just don’t shoot the gun so soon! I don’t wanna get shot when I’m innocent. LoL!

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I guess if it’s possible it could be useful for a diver, but seems a little odd considering most batteries don’t respond well to getting wet.

Maybe they just mean that they have a really outstanding warranty, and did not imply that changing batteries under water was safe for the light. Silly

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B25364 wrote:
i retract all my sarcastic lies. if you buy an Olight i3 you will throw all those other lights in the trash.. OLIGHT FOREVER !!!!!!!

I’m in the process of getting an Olight i3.

I am curious why you like it so much.

I still don’t know why.

Maybe you import them or you sell them because you are stuck with a big shipment of them.

Are you using a 10440 li-ion in it?

To me, all the AAA flashlights are similar.

They all put out light.

Some brighter, some less bright.

Some use QTC, some using switching for dimming or modes.

Some are physically longer, some shorter.

There are cheap ones and costly ones.

I know you like it.

But I don’t know why you like.

The question is why I would like it.

That is the concept you don’t seem to grasp.

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Thanks for posting your thoughts satow, and my apologies for seeing your thread get trashed. We’re not all like that!

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B25364 wrote:
let’s make sure i think that peak is a good light for people who like that sort of thing. i suggest that an Olight i3 might be a better deal. i had never heard of peak and thought they might be another ripoff company selling $5 lights for $70. to me the light seems ugly and gimmicky. the head twisting feature is odd and it seems overpriced.

The twisty feature is not odd. It is how it is implemented.

People have different needs, thus there are different types of implementations.

….

My Preon P1 has 3 main modes, L-M-H with two hidden modes flash and S.O.S.

Before I put the clicky tail cap switch you had to twist the head back and forth to cycle through the modes.

To make it easier to switch modes I put on a clicky tailcap.

Some people think that a clicky tailcap is a cheap gimmick to cycle through light modes.

I think it is a handy feature to cycle through the modes quickly.

It’s much faster than twisting it on and off to get to the mode you want.

….

Some people prefer the QTC twisty feature.

This allows the light from being full off then gradually going from dim to full bright as you twist the head tighter.

My Veleno Quantum D2 and my Peak Eiger Ultra uses QTC.

It is silent and you can vary the light intensity with one hand.

This is great while camping or doing surveillance.

Especially when you don’t want to flash the light cycling through modes or make noises with a clicker tailcap switch.

The tailcap for the Peak Eiger Ultra is a momentary spring pressure switch.

As you depress the tailcap it gets brighter, when you release the pressure it gets dimmer.

It is silent.

….

Some people don’t want any modes, just off on.

Some people only want two modes, L and H.

Some people only want three modes, L, M, and H.

Some people like multiple modes and memory, L, M, H, memory, S.O.S., flashy

Some people want an infinitely variable light output so they choose QTC.

Some people what an variable light output but no clicky noise or flashing so they choose QTC.

I don’t think the Olight i3 is going to be any better than my Preon P1.

But I am looking forward to seeing how it compares to my other lights.

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I have a bag full of AAA lights, including the I3 and I3S. Personally I would go with the I3S, which has a long list of improvements over the original I3, including a much better constant current driver, superior build quality and machining, not to mention an XP-G2 and moonlight mode, just to name a few. There’s really no comparison in my mind. The I3 was a nice light but the low frequency PWM made me nauseous. Both versions will take a 10440 with the caveat that you’ll melt something if you leave it on high too long.

The Peaks all look like great lights and certainly have a loyal following. Not really my thing, but it’s hard to go wrong with a flashlight made by hand from people who understand flashlights better than most. If you value build quality and overall craftsmanship above all else, then they are worth taking a look at.

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B25364 wrote:
satow wrote:
B25364 wrote:
i wish you would not buy an Olight , but if you do, also get the efest 10440 battery for best performance. because now i am trying to be your friend.

After all of this how can I or anyone trust your words now?

I am getting an Olight i3 because you think it is great.

I have to investigate the efest 10440 by reading reviews first because you maybe trying to trick me.

And then laugh at me.

That is the consequence of posting comments that hold bad feelings.

People lose confidence in your words.

i am so happy we are friends now.
and the peak light is so cool.
it is SILENT !!!
like the NINJA creeping along on the
mist-shrouded peaks of Mt. Fuji
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post a link to the i3s you are getting.
and i will get the exact same light as you.
and it will bring us closer, like warriors
who have drawn each other’s blood

the sarcasm on your post is so damn high Big Smile

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Just make sure to follow the warrior code of Bushido, which does not allow you to shine a light in your enemy’s eyes, because the eyes behold the rising sun.

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Thanks Racer.

This is the link I am looking at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olight-i3S-EOS-Pocket-Keychain-Cree-XP-G2-LED-Flashlight-80-lumens-BLACK-/141225590553?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item20e1b37f19

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That’s the one you want Smile

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Thanks Racer for the verification.

I want to know why that light is so popular with good natured people.

I also want to know why it attracts some idiots too.

LoL!

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I did a review of it here, including a comparison to the original I3 which you might find useful.

The only gripe I have the I3S that I live in a really cold climate, and sometimes when it’s cold, the light can get stuck on medium until it warms up in my hand.

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Racer wrote:
I did a review of it here, including a comparison to the original I3 which you might find useful.

The only gripe I have the I3S that I live in a really cold climate, and sometimes when it’s cold, the light can get stuck on medium until it warms up in my hand.

Thanks Racer! That is very helpful!

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B25364 wrote:
koyotee wrote:
Sorry my mistake!

yeah that was fartybum who said he lives underwater
in one of those bubble colonies and needs
waterproof phones to talk to the grand poohbah ( a cat named skippy ).


Lots of rude ignorant posts in the thread, this might be a budget forum, but there are lights that as with most products are superior in there construction and function, one member decides to venture outside cheap Chines clones and buy something of quality and he is pounced on for making an excellent choice, are you all sheep? Friendly forum what a joke. Some members here should be ashamed of their troll like behaviour, not to say there aren’t plenty of intelligent members here who don’t find it necessary to follow the trolls.

I merely mentioned the under water capabilities, because peak heads are themselves a sealed unit and a small leak passed an O ring isn’t compromise the operation of your light, just another barrier against water ingress.

Instead of treating satow as a fool who is easily parted from his hard earned, you should be congratulating him on his excellent taste in flashlights.

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I think it is fine to joke around and have favorite lights, but being disrespectful is another issue.

Yes, the Peak Eiger Ultra is a fine light. It’s very well made, a little costly, but has features such as QTC and the option to add a plunger style tailcap switch. No one else has that.

Being quiet and not attracting attention with a flashing light as you twist through modes, or making a clicking sound as you click through the modes is very important to avoid if you do security and patrol work.

That is why some military and security personnel love this light.

Most people don’t know what QTC is. It is a material when compressed, allows more electricity to pass through. When it expands, less electricity passes through.

So on a QTC light, as you twist the head tighter, the light gradually gets brighter.

When you loosen the head the light gets dimmer and eventually goes off.

  1. The beauty of the Peak Eiger lights is that is it a QTC light that has customizable features.
  2. You don’t have to twist the head off and on to switch modes to get the light to the right brightness.
  3. You have the option of adding a tailcap switch.
  4. As you gradually press in the tailcap switch the brighter it gets.
  5. When you back the pressure off the tailcap switch it dims.
  6. No other QTC light or any other light, has an optional tailcap switch that works like this one – that I am aware of.
  7. It is completely silent so when you are on patrol, you don’t draw attention.
  8. You don’t have to cycle through modes, which causes flashing which also draws attention.
  9. It is built very, very well and is extremely lightweight.

And these are some of the reasons why people like the Peak Eiger series of lights.

I don’t think the Olight i3s has those features. It doesn’t need to.

It is for the everyday man to carry around.

I think comparing the Olight i3s with a Preon P1 or a Streamlight Microstream C4 is a more appropriate comparison.

Some people think that twisting the head on and off to get to modes is gimmicky.

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