Buck stainless steel knife at Manafont

New at Manafont. Love the shape of this one. Before I order one, I'm interested if someone have any experience with this knife?

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/buck-stainless-steel-knife-prot...

Hello,

looks exacly like the frequently aked Sanrenmu Strike Civil

http://www.sanrenmu.com/en/fixed/product/18.php

Yes, I ordered one from Priceangels.com. Received it some days ago.

It is Buck Vanguard copy-OEM-clone.

I wanted to post a review here but I still don't know the steel (stainless steel is just generic term).

From: http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/448607389-fixed-outdoor-camping-knife-tool-army-knife-buck-hunting-knife-wholesalers.html

100% Brand New

Features:

Type:Fixed Blade Knife

Model Number:buck 768

Blade material:440C
Handle material: plastic

Overall:22.3cm

Blade length:11.5cm

Blade thickness:3.8mm

Net weight:210g

Hardness:5.8HRC

Package: original box and nylon bag

Here they claim it is 440C steel but this is obviously not true, because china doesn't produce it. Perhaps 7Cr17MoV? If it is Sanrenmu "Strike Civil" then it has 8cr13mov, which isn't bad at all.

Otherwise knife arrived a little dull, but I sharpened it in 10 minutes on Fallkniven DC4 stone to razor sharp (cuts hair from my arm easily). How good it holds the edge I really don't know yet. Handle is very ergonomic, finger guard is excellent. Good knife. Sheath is so-so in my opinion .

I can post some pictures if you want?

Yes, please. A picture is worth a thousand words :)

Is this metal on the handle end made of aluminum or steel?

Yes please do.

I have this knife, 2 of them actually. My initial comments are here: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/2102?page=1#comment-47135

I'll try to get some pics, measurements etc. tonight. I concur that my knives did not come razor sharp, the sheath is serviceable at best, with thin straps and some frays. But the knives themselves seem good quality and strong. Would be nice to know how far the tang entends into the grip, i.e. if it is a full or partial tang. If anyone has access to an x-ray machine, I might be willing to part with one for a few days.

Where are the pics? ;-) ... still not uploaded... gosh you are so slow... ;-)

Do you have any SRM folders to compare it to? What is your initial impression... could it be SRM or rather a generic Buck copy? My full tang Buck turned out to be a counterfeit and my Moras are definitely of much higher quality for almost the same price. A good sheath is very important to me in a fixed blade knife and the sheath on mine is just horribly made, because of the badly design strap.

I know, I know, but I'm a busy guy - what can I say? The only faults I could find on one knife was a small pit on the butt and the butt was not perfectly lined up in straight fashion with the rest of the knife, if that makes sense. Both minor. I think it's possible that it's an SRM, at least I can't imagine how the SRM could be vastly superior - unless the steel on my version is inferior, which remains to be seen. Magnusson is another knife from the Netherlands, also called Vanguard, that looks the same as the SRM Strike Civil and Buck Vanguard. I wonder how these might all relate to each other.

Here you go :)

Thanks, seems to be OK for the price paid... but I wish the strap would be right above the finger guard.

The bulge in the grip is adequate to keep the knife from rising to expose the blade edge on my examples.

Yes, yes. We really need to X-ray this puppy.

Original Buck Vanguard has thin long tang attached to the back. At least according to this video -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC04GFsaPpE&feature=related Lots of other knifes are x-rayed in this video.

Looks like the original Vanguard has a screwed-on handle tail, so if anyone wants to try to unscrew it.... be careful though.

Nice youtube find Paranid.

It must be nice to have access to an xray machine. At 1:20 in the video, "The Buck screw is not straight. I think this is great junk..."

Thats the thinnest tang Ive ever seen on a knife this size. In the xray, you can certainly see the probable failure point at the end of the tang where the threads begin at an angle. I bet most would probably never break the Buck under normal light duty use, depending on your definition of "normal".

Given their legendary combat history, the Ka-bar's extremely robust build doesnt surprise me.

Anyone know if the knife in the OP is full-tang?

Problem with knife descriptions on the Chinese sites is you have no idea what you are getting. I flat out will not buy a knife that has the hilt bolted/glued/attached to the tang. And I sort of like to know exactly what kind of steel they are talking about (assuming they are really telling us the truth in that).

I mean I could easily live with 3/4 tang knife. But to see original Buck Vanguard under X-ray is little disappointing.

Perhaps someone should contact Sanrenmu and ask them.. But again we still don't know if this "OEM" Buck is built by SRM. Ahh, great Chinese riddle

I can't see why it wouldn't be full-tang - it would be easiest for the manufacturer to just copy the original design (if, in fact, they are not the oem already). In this case, it would not be a great investment in materials, and the design work would already be done.

Update - my measurements for overall length and blade length (gross length, from guard to tip including non-cutting edge) are in complete agreement with the Sanrenmu specs for the Strike Civil. Though they list the weight at 5.93 ou, and my postal scale tips slightly over 7 ou. My scale tends to weigh a little heavy. So it might be the real deal. Actually, I just found the spec for the the Buck Vanguard and it's 6.6 ou, so that's good! Might also answer the question about the full-length tang. The pommel is also steel, btw.

Thanks for the info boomhauer. Are you measuring just the knife or the knife and sheath with that weight?

Just wondering, what kind of jobs do people do that need a fixed blade? I mostly get by with swiss army knife unless I'm cutting stuff in the kitchen.

Just the knife. Like I said, my scales weighs a little heavy so the actual weight is probably right on.

This particular knife is a classic hunting knife style for field dressing an animal the size of deer and larger. It's actually larger than it needs to be for deer, but still fine. Best to have a fixed blade for such heavy tasks. Food prep too - folding knives get too messy in hard-to-reach places.