the only other light is in this size and price range is Uniquefire UF-K21 it’s a nice light too ( I bought 4 of them ) but only has 1 mode, but this SC03 a lot nicer and brighter and better mode too
do you have the mini 01? thats my smallest and brightest light. which one is brighter?
the mini 01 is about 500 lumens
yes I have Mini01.. even uniquefire is brighter than that
this light definitely brighter.. I’ll say it the lumens is somewhere around 700-800 lumens ( not sure though)
but TOM E is also getting one and he can measure it correctly with his light sphere
but judging from the eyes and the lux meter.. this light is brighter than both of those mini lights
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The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
Ugh—my SC01, SC02 and SC03 are probably going straight into the “bag of shame” if the PWM is indeed that low. The high frequency PWM has no effect on me, but the low PWM is just too nauseating
This has to be a new record for me: the infatuation is over before I even receive the product lol. At least I’m still occupied with some recent purchases like the E12, D25LC2, F6, T10S and HC50
actually it’s not that bad.. it’s not noticeable unless you pointed to the fan
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The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
Ugh—my SC01, SC02 and SC03 are probably going straight into the “bag of shame” if the PWM is indeed that low. The high frequency PWM has no effect on me, but the low PWM is just too nauseating
This has to be a new record for me: the infatuation is over before I even receive the product lol. At least I’m still occupied with some recent purchases like the E12, D25LC2, F6, T10S and HC50
OOHOOOHOOOOH!!! Waves hands…if you are gonna chuck the SC01..I claim dibs
And yeah…the PWM on stock lights just bother the heck out of me…this is why I started running custom firmware on Nanjg 105C’s and upping the PWM frequency…the light looks more “solid” rather than flickery…kinda like changing the refresh rate to 70-75hz on an old CRT vs the 60hz…you CAN see the difference
My SC01 and SC03 are getting close, supposedly on the island, but getting bumped around - "out for delivery" one day, then next at a sort facility, yikes! This hasn't happened to me for a while. Hoping in the next day or 2, then I'll do some thorough measurements - amps, output, take a lookie at the drivers, etc.
How bright are these in the real world?
I am more interested in the 14500 version but the specs are better on the 16340 version so I am confused. I would expect at least 350 lumen from a 14500 light…
If someone disassembles theirs please take some pictures and measurements…
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Were you running the sc03 off of a disposable cr123?
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DayLighter wrote:
I’m running it with efest IMR 16340 battery, […]
I am using CR123A primary in the SC03s I am keeping in my cars’ glove compartments. From what I understand, Lithium primaries are better for glove compartment use due to their long lives and extreme temperature tolerance.
My extremely scientific conclusion is “Them lights put out plenty o’lumens with CR123A” The battery will probably last less than 10 minutes on High mode!
hmm.. I never try to light it that long, I should give it a try and see how long does it last on HIGH mode and see if there’s any protection against heat
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The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
Lights with electronic switches have always a parasitic standby current, how high this is depends on the driver. Just think of that(or test it) if you want to use a light in a glove box for longer periods….
Lights with electronic switches have always a parasitic standby current, how high this is depends on the driver. Just think of that(or test it) if you want to use a light in a glove box for longer periods....
Hmm . . . do these (particulalry the SC01 which I'm due to receive in a few days) do tailcap lockout easy enough because I do intend to keep it in a glovebox?
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Lights with electronic switches have always a parasitic standby current, how high this is depends on the driver. Just think of that(or test it) if you want to use a light in a glove box for longer periods….
Hmm . . . do these (particulalry the SC01 which I’m due to receive in a few days) do tailcap lockout easy enough because I do intend to keep it in a glovebox?
-Garry
the tail cap be turn just about 1” and it lock the light (SC03)
so no worries about draining the battery here
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The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
Well if anyone doesn’t like the SC01 then I can say the Roche F6 is flippin’ awesome for a few bucks more. I think it was $22 at Fasttech with the BLF discount.
Well if anyone doesn't like the SC01 then I can say the Roche F6 is flippin' awesome for a few bucks more. I think it was $22 at Fasttech with the BLF discount.
But that's apple's to oranges, AA/14500 / 18650. Perhaps you mean SC02?
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Well if anyone doesn’t like the SC01 then I can say the Roche F6 is flippin’ awesome for a few bucks more. I think it was $22 at Fasttech with the BLF discount.
But that’s apple’s to oranges, AA/14500 / 18650. Perhaps you mean SC02?
-Garry
Ahh, yes, sorry. Whichever one takes the 18650, the Roche should be a good alternative.
Can you please measure brightness on low mode? Thanks.
Oh boy... The lowest I can set low seems to be 56 lumens. But... With the light off, if you hold the switch down, it starts ramping up, and the first level is 14 lumens. I'm really not sure though about the lowest you can set low mode. Seems like the #'s are all over the place, and once you raise low, it's hard to get it back low. ............ If you can understand that, I envy you!
This programmed low mode is rather confusing to me right now....
Edit:I can't seem to budge the head from the body tube - not sure if glued or one piece. I got the bezel off though, definite SS, 1 o-ring under the glass, nothing between the glass and bezel. The star is screwed down by 2 screws, there's definitely an aluminum plate that the aluminum star sits on. There's some thickness to the star/pill top combo. I tried pushing the driver out from the tube, and tried unscrewing the star/pill from the top - no luck either way. It seems like this may be it for the light.
Weird -- there are 3 wires soldered to the star, not two. Labeled: L-, L+, and V-. Anyone ever see anything like that? I haven't.
The buttons feel about perfect to me - not too easy, not too hard. They even have a nice audible click, so another bio feedback feature. Maybe not as recessed as they could be - definitely bumps out from the profile. No where as easy though as a SupFire M6 for example -- the M6 did activate in my bag and burned a tri-spot mark into a towel I had it wrapped in.
yes I have Mini01.. even uniquefire is brighter than that
this light definitely brighter.. I’ll say it the lumens is somewhere around 700-800 lumens ( not sure though)
but TOM E is also getting one and he can measure it correctly with his light sphere
but judging from the eyes and the lux meter.. this light is brighter than both of those mini lights
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
actually it’s not that bad.. it’s not noticeable unless you pointed to the fan
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
And yeah…the PWM on stock lights just bother the heck out of me…this is why I started running custom firmware on Nanjg 105C’s and upping the PWM frequency…the light looks more “solid” rather than flickery…kinda like changing the refresh rate to 70-75hz on an old CRT vs the 60hz…you CAN see the difference
My SC01 and SC03 are getting close, supposedly on the island, but getting bumped around - "out for delivery" one day, then next at a sort facility, yikes! This hasn't happened to me for a while. Hoping in the next day or 2, then I'll do some thorough measurements - amps, output, take a lookie at the drivers, etc.
want me to bring it over tonight Tom so we can test the output on this light? :bigsmile:
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
How bright are these in the real world?
I am more interested in the 14500 version but the specs are better on the 16340 version so I am confused. I would expect at least 350 lumen from a 14500 light…
If someone disassembles theirs please take some pictures and measurements…
I am using CR123A primary in the SC03s I am keeping in my cars’ glove compartments. From what I understand, Lithium primaries are better for glove compartment use due to their long lives and extreme temperature tolerance.
My extremely scientific conclusion is “Them lights put out plenty o’lumens with CR123A”
The battery will probably last less than 10 minutes on High mode!
hmm.. I never try to light it that long, I should give it a try and see how long does it last on HIGH mode and see if there’s any protection against heat
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
Lights with electronic switches have always a parasitic standby current, how high this is depends on the driver. Just think of that(or test it) if you want to use a light in a glove box for longer periods….
Hmm . . . do these (particulalry the SC01 which I'm due to receive in a few days) do tailcap lockout easy enough because I do intend to keep it in a glovebox?
-Garry
My Bike Lights Thread, Optics (TIR) Comparison Beamshots, Diffusion Techniques
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This is what my FT package is going through. Kings Park isn't my regular post office, so could show up today, could take a week more...
April 9, 2014 , 11:23 pm
Delivery status not updated
April 9, 2014 , 10:10 am
Processed through USPS Sort Facility
KINGS PARK, NY 11754
April 9, 2014 , 9:23 am
Out for Delivery
KINGS PARK, NY 11754
April 9, 2014 , 9:13 am
Sorting Complete
KINGS PARK, NY 11754
April 9, 2014 , 8:14 am
Arrival at Unit
KINGS PARK, NY 11754
April 7, 2014 , 9:01 pm
Processed through USPS Sort Facility
JAMAICA, NY 11430
April 7, 2014 , 9:37 am
Processed Through Sort Facility
ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
April 1, 2014 , 9:54 am
Processed Through Sort Facility
SHENZHEN EMS, CHINA
March 31, 2014 , 2:45 pm
Acceptance
CHINA
That will work if I don’t like them. Or maybe trade one for a mod on another one. They should be here in a week or two.
DayLighter - does a 18350 fit in the SC03?
No Tom.. it won’t fit
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
the tail cap be turn just about 1” and it lock the light (SC03)
so no worries about draining the battery here
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
Well if anyone doesn’t like the SC01 then I can say the Roche F6 is flippin’ awesome for a few bucks more. I think it was $22 at Fasttech with the BLF discount.
But that's apple's to oranges, AA/14500 / 18650. Perhaps you mean SC02?
-Garry
My Bike Lights Thread, Optics (TIR) Comparison Beamshots, Diffusion Techniques
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Ahh, yes, sorry. Whichever one takes the 18650, the Roche should be a good alternative.
Crap, would have been a nice option... Might be enough wall thickness to shave it out with a lathe , but I'm clueless there.
Edit 4:08PM: USPS status is now delivered! So, should be there when I get home... I'll report this eve.
Ok, got them!! Here's some comparative pics.
In the packing with a G10:
With a few recognizable AA's and Mini-01:
Just the AA's:
More:
Ok - the good news is these lights are pretty hot with good LIon cells.
SC01 w/Sanyo UR14500P 840mAh @4.20v, 1.62A tailcap - lumens: 544 @start, 513 @30 secs, throw: 5 kcd
SC03 w/Efest IMR 550 V2 @4.20v, 1.60A tailcap - lumens: 517 @start, 466 @30 secs, throw: 4.5 kcd
So far, looks like a real bargain on these lights. Threads were dry, but little Nyogel makes a big diff. Now to see how they dismantle...
Can you please measure brightness on low mode? Thanks.
Deal, I am still working on the 15mm FET 15DD (East-92 type driver) in a SK68 haven’t tested yet…or any of the 15/17/20DD FET drivers
Oh boy... The lowest I can set low seems to be 56 lumens. But... With the light off, if you hold the switch down, it starts ramping up, and the first level is 14 lumens. I'm really not sure though about the lowest you can set low mode. Seems like the #'s are all over the place, and once you raise low, it's hard to get it back low. ............ If you can understand that, I envy you!
This programmed low mode is rather confusing to me right now....
Edit: I can't seem to budge the head from the body tube - not sure if glued or one piece. I got the bezel off though, definite SS, 1 o-ring under the glass, nothing between the glass and bezel. The star is screwed down by 2 screws, there's definitely an aluminum plate that the aluminum star sits on. There's some thickness to the star/pill top combo. I tried pushing the driver out from the tube, and tried unscrewing the star/pill from the top - no luck either way. It seems like this may be it for the light.
Weird -- there are 3 wires soldered to the star, not two. Labeled: L-, L+, and V-. Anyone ever see anything like that? I haven't.
Reflector dimensions: 20.7mm outer width, 13mm outer depth.
I'm pretty certain both lights have 17mm drivers -- may be useless info if can't get access to the pill or driver though...
Thanks for the lumen measurement and comparison pic.
Just ordered the 14500 version.
How does it behave on nimh?
Just popped in a Eneloop Pro (from Chibi) and got 102 lumens on high.
Hi. Would you recommend the SC03?
These are impressive little lights, stock as they are, both the SC01 and SC03 -- I'd recommend both at this point, at this price.
SC01 readings look promising. With higher output and cell capacity, I think I will choose SC01 over SC03.
@Tom E
How does the button feels like? Will it be it easily activated if placed inside a pocket?
you can lock it out by turning the bottom cap a little bit
BTW wife saw the light and now it’s gone :_(
The only way to do a great work is to love what you do.
The buttons feel about perfect to me - not too easy, not too hard. They even have a nice audible click, so another bio feedback feature. Maybe not as recessed as they could be - definitely bumps out from the profile. No where as easy though as a SupFire M6 for example -- the M6 did activate in my bag and burned a tri-spot mark into a towel I had it wrapped in.
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