Poll: Mode order for the Tank007 E07 BLF Edition

Buy / Sell Want to Buy
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You can see the archived poll results on the Wayback Machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20221220093741/https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/72505

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Hi guys,

First of all my apologies for the delay on this project. I've been extremely busy this past week, but I hope things will calm down now.

So, we are very close to the green light (well, actually it's going to be neutral tinted) to the Tank007 E07 BLF Edition. Here's a quick reminder of the specs:

Tank007 E07 (1xAA or 1x14500)

Approximate price: $18

  • OSRAM LED
  • neutral tint (not sure if this tint exists with OSRAM, but they claim they can do it)
  • 3 modes (no flashing, lowest mode ~1 lumen, order TBD)
  • Mode memory
  • Additional cost accessory (90% certain we can get this): pocket clip

So, we need to decide mode order. This poll is only going to run for 24 hours from the time it was started. So please vote quickly!

Thanks, cheers!

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If it has proper memory, then the mode sequence doesn't matter that much. I'd rather have LMH, which just makes more sense to me when I'm cycling through the modes.

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I'm getting excited for this! Any word yet on rough time of availability?

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I'm excited too. This poll will end tomorrow, Friday morning. So hopefully Manafont can place the order late this week or early next week. I'm not sure how long it will take for the custom build. Hopefully not more than a few weeks.

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Agree with brted that mode memory makes mode order a minor consideration.

Sam

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Surely i will get one, the E07 is one of my first edc and loved it only if it have multi modes, this version will definitely make me buy a new light.

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I just hope that with only 3 modes, and one of them being an ultra low, that the jumps between UltraLow to Medium and Medium to High is not that great. Getting the right compromise on medium will be tricky without it truly feeling like a compromise. I still think 4 modes would have been better but what's done is done and this is the last time I'll mention it.

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IMO, everyone wants LMH until they actually get a LMH light. We did this for the first BLF light and it's the reason I don't ever use it even though it's fairly nice otherwise. Clicking extra times to get to a usable state is just annoying. The problem with starting on low is that the idea that if you have night adapted vision, low won't ruin it. However in practice, even the lowest of low anyone's ever seen on chinese lights is too bright for this (well over a couple lumens). Once the rhodopsin's gone (no, it's no a matter of degree) it's gone.

The other idea that low won't "blind" you in general is not that helpful. Most of us live in lit areas. The common use case for a flashlight is that you've gone from a lit to non-lit area. The idea that you then wait at least 5-7min for at least your cones (or 30+min for rods) to adapt, and then use low mode so as to not disturb them is absurd. When you need light after stepping out, the whole point is that you want to see as well as possible right away without waiting for your pupils to dilate and other biochem/neural processes to reset. Once that's happened, you probably won't need a flashlight anyway.

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With a proper memory function it really doesn’t matter either way.

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Proper mode memory is about as rare as strobeless lights.

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What will be the final cost of the flashlight?

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4Sevens moonlight anyone... 0,2 lumens. Yes yes, I know there are chinese lights and "chinese" lights.

The most use my lights get are inside my house. Usually when I go from the other side of the house to bedroom at night when it's dark. Or to go from bedroom to kitchen to get a night snack. I don't want to wake the whole family up with 800 lumens when doing so.

Many of you know I flash my own drivers with custom programs. The ones I like the best and get most usage are set moonlight-low-(med)-high with no memory. That way I can always be sure it starts from very low.

I'm just saying there's no way to please everyone. Unless the the modes are user programmable.

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I like high - med - low for a simple fact. It's easier to save battery and keep lowering the light as your vision adapts.

But as long as it has mode memory and a decent low I'm in.

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If there were no mode memory, then I would probably prefer it to start on High, then Low, and Medium last because I'll only use Medium if I'm trying to maximize battery life and leaving the light on for a while. I use High the most and Low second most. Rarely use Medium on any of my lights. I agree it can be tricky getting just the right Medium. 25-33% seems about right. I believe Tank said 1 lumen was about as low as they could go.

The original BLF light didn't have memory, and I agree it is like pumping the light every time I turn it on to get through the 3 modes I don't want to get to the mode I do want. However, my iTP A3 EOS which is with me all the time is L-M-H, and I don't mind it that much.

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If it's a neutral osram than which tint are they talking about ?

also I'm as confused how you change modes on this light in the first place if it's turn and turn more and turn farther than what mode it starts in is a moot point ..it would be nice to have some real info , speculation doesn't make for good decision making .

-What type osram

-what tint

-how do you change modes ?

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It probably works like ITP A3's or any other twist light. You're just cutting the power temporary, just like the clicky switch.

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Yeah, I'm sure other people have other specific uses, I'm just speculating how most people use flashlights. If you're mostly going around in the dark (but not so much darkness that your eyes are adapted) it makes sense to start in low, but most people I think usually hang around where there's light and use them in areas of intermitent darkness.

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Very good, the poll is over.

Low -> Med -> High it is, by a wide margin.