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Unusual 14500 only light

Obviously there's no way this is 8w but it is mighty unusual.  

I like the design which makes it look far bigger than its dimensions show it to be.  It has the type of TIR lens often used in small lights to increase throw.  So the description that it has a glass lens must be wrong. The emitter is not specified but very unusually for this size of light it appears to be 14500's only (No AA).   I think the 14500 only is right as ShenZhen list it as 14500 only too.

Its so cheap that I may just throw one in with my next order for the heck of it just to satisfy my curiosity.

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Thats a good looking head... not sure about the rest... 

 

hehe.. and the 8W is probably the last part of the model number... who said it was 8 watts....

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The product description says 8w led bulbs.
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okwchin wrote:

Thats a good looking head... not sure about the rest... 

hehe.. and the 8W is probably the last part of the model number... who said it was 8 watts....

Well both BestOfferBuy, ShenZhen and Alibaba listings, at the very least, all read the same -

  • Brand /model: SMILING SHARK SS-8043
  • Bulbs/mode:8W LED Bulbs / 1 mode

So I think they are trying to give the impression its 8 watts.  

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I own this. The body is rather thin but not to shabby. It's direct drive (hence 14500 only) and very bright with a nice hotspot. It has a generic china 3W emitter with a rather blueish tint. The clicky feels very good. No flickering issues that a lot of other lights in this class have.

 

Obviously this is a very low budget light, but in fact I grab it very often and like it.

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I found it on Smiling Shark’s Web site: http://www.cnsmilingshark.com/product/html/?146.html. They seem interesting from a collector point of view. There products are cheap but different. My SS-8027 AA/14500 light is a movable pill zoomy but seems to cool well anyway, due partly to fins on the focus ring. The others of their TIRs I have found are 3xAAA, which makes them obsolete. The 8027 has a driver that works well with 1.5 and 3.7 V cells, and I don’t know why they don’t use the same driver in the 8043.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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These seem to be scarce. I tried to order one from Shenzhen-Wholesale, but it did not give me a PayPal option. So I ordered it from IZlight.com (HONG KONG ZHANGYANG TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD) for $7.52 shipped.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
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The optics should lose less light than a zoomy does, but it doesn’t say what led it uses.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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My father bought this light for me from china. I think the led is chinese 1watt type on an a 16mm aluminium star. Pill is hollow and can be removed with a nose plier. The driver is 15mm it supports 1.5v to 4.2v but it has only one mode. I changed the driver with a 3 mode one and the emitter to xp-g2. Now the beam is narrower and very bright i think around 400 to 500 lumen with a li-ion.

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Yes, nice modification.
Marked differently. So Smiling Shark may be an export brand name?

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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Smiling Shark likes to copy the design of the Spark lights. That host is also very similar to the W611 that DX sells. In that one, the 14.6mm driver looks identical to the driver in this one (I compared your pic to one of mine and the chips are identical, but it is 3 mode and the light has a reflector (and an XP-G I think). Anyway that stock driver gave me 1.6A at 4.2V driving an XM-L2 T3 emitter on a Noctigon base. I have also tried another driver from FT (SKU 1127402), and with that one I got over 2A driving an XM-L2 (as it is 16mm, it just sits on top of the pill and the tube screws down onto it and grounds). In the model I built with the T3, as it is for patient assessment in the field, I am finding that the optics from IOS are looking more promising that the reflector. It gets hot, but when field testing it last night when temp was -2C, even on high it remained cool to the touch. I tried to get a Qlite 3.01 driver to mount in it, but it’s a real pain to figure out how to ground it because the chips hold the tube off the ground path, and the pill is aluminum so cannot solder a ground strap to it. I’ve found that the best drivers to use in this host are ones that are flat with no components on the battery side so that the body tube can gain ground. I’ve been looking for a driver of that design that will give me >2A for winter use outside where heat will not be a problem, but I don’t think they are made.

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The driver and the led in the pic are stock. I had a driver from an ultrafire light i changed the driver and the led. The beam is very nice and smooth with xp-g in it, i will soon upload a photo.

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Here is a beam shot 1m from the wall

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rezwan wrote:
The driver and the led in the pic are stock.

You didn’t sound like you would do such a sloppy job of soldering.

rezwan wrote:
Here is a beam shot 1m from the wall

Very nice beam spot.

Now that I ordered one, I have been thinking about total internal reflection flashlight optics. The hole in the center isn’t just to let the center rays get out, as I had been thinking. It is a diverging lens, with negative focal length varying along its length. It bends the light outward so more of it hits the reflecting surface. I can’t see from the pictures what shape the outside of the optic is, but it should be somewhere between a parabola and a cone, in order to focus light that has been bent by the center sens surface. It uses light from the sides, farther forward than an aluminum reflector does and farther back than a aspheric does. This is not everything, because the beam spot has gradual steps that must correspond to at leas one more path than I now understand. This may be the best continuous optics solution, but one can still do better by stepping things like this, as Fresnel did for lighthouses.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。

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The wires were melting as i tried to solder. As for the driver i attached a small spring on the positive plate and soldered the negative to the pill, later i filed the excess solder.

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You got solder to stick to aluminum?

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。