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The base of the 60watt equivalent LED light runs hot. Am using 2 lights in the kitchen ceiling. Is there any fire danger running the lights in closed, cramped space?

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BLightSam wrote:
The base of the 60watt equivalent LED light runs hot. Am using 2 lights in the kitchen ceiling. Is there any fire danger running the lights in closed, cramped space?

No, just short life.
How hot is it? Is it hot enough to hurt your fingers after a short moment of touching it?
The Philips basic bulbs get that hot but they are rated for 10 years or something like that.

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poiihy wrote:
BLightSam wrote:
The base of the 60watt equivalent LED light runs hot. Am using 2 lights in the kitchen ceiling. Is there any fire danger running the lights in closed, cramped space?
No, just short life.
How hot is it? Is it hot enough to hurt your fingers after a short moment of touching it?
The Philips basic bulbs get that hot but they are rated for 10 years or something like that.
It gets hot enough not to touch it only a few minutes after turn on. Great relief that only the life is affected. Maybe this is the reason the warranty is only 4 yrs. Thanks for response.
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BLightSam wrote:
poiihy wrote:
BLightSam wrote:
The base of the 60watt equivalent LED light runs hot. Am using 2 lights in the kitchen ceiling. Is there any fire danger running the lights in closed, cramped space?
No, just short life. How hot is it? Is it hot enough to hurt your fingers after a short moment of touching it? The Philips basic bulbs get that hot but they are rated for 10 years or something like that.
It gets hot enough not to touch it only a few minutes after turn on. Great relief that only the life is affected. Maybe this is the reason the warranty is only 4 yrs. Thanks for response.

Incandescent lamps get a LOT hotter. Since LED lamps are more efficient, you can use a 60w LED lamp in a fixture rated for 60w incandescent max and still have some safety margin. A 9w LED lamp is way under the limit.

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poiihy wrote:
Incandescent lamps get a LOT hotter. Since LED lamps are more efficient, you can use a 60w LED lamp in a fixture rated for 60w incandescent max and still have some safety margin. A 9w LED lamp is way under the limit.
Totally escaped me how hot those incandescent lights were. Now I am not at all concerned about fire hazard possibility.

Wonder how cool those LEDs with rather bulky heat sinks are in comparison to ones without heat sinks.

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BLightSam wrote:
poiihy wrote:
Incandescent lamps get a LOT hotter. Since LED lamps are more efficient, you can use a 60w LED lamp in a fixture rated for 60w incandescent max and still have some safety margin. A 9w LED lamp is way under the limit.
Totally escaped me how hot those incandescent lights were. Now I am not at all concerned about fire hazard possibility.

Wonder how cool those LEDs with rather bulky heat sinks are in comparison to ones without heat sinks.

I have some of each and externally they run at about the same temperature. I suspect though that internally the 99 cent ones would be hotter. Actually I know they run hotter because without a good thermal path there will be a larger temperature gradient from the source of the heat (the LEDs) to the outside of the bulb.

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dchomak wrote:
BLightSam wrote:
Wonder how cool those LEDs with rather bulky heat sinks are in comparison to ones without heat sinks.
I have some of each and externally they run at about the same temperature. I suspect though that internally the 99 cent ones would be hotter. Actually I know they run hotter because without a good thermal path there will be a larger temperature gradient from the source of the heat (the LEDs) to the outside of the bulb.
That being the case common sense says they should have different warranty.

In your post #154:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/32139?page=3#comment-851739

They are both rated at 16.4 years !? <===

Anybody have any ideas why the warranty is same?

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Ability to heat sink well does nothing to reduce the total heat emitted; it only allows the bulb to shed that heat more efficiently. Given all else being the same the total heat seen by the fixture will therefore be the same either way.

It is entirely safe to use an LED bulb with the same output equivalency rating in an Incan fixture, although enclosed fixtures may reduce LED bulb life considerably. Incans can withstand almost any sane level of heat but LED’s may not like the same situation. But for this kind of price they’re worth a shot!

Phil

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SawMaster wrote:
Ability to heat sink well does nothing to reduce the total heat emitted; it only allows the bulb to shed that heat more efficiently. Given all else being the same the total heat seen by the fixture will therefore be the same either way.

It is entirely safe to use an LED bulb with the same output equivalency rating in an Incan fixture, although enclosed fixtures may reduce LED bulb life considerably. Incans can withstand almost any sane level of heat but LED’s may not like the same situation. But for this kind of price they’re worth a shot!

Phil

They may actually last longer than 1.8 years. Remember I proved, at least to myself, that the 2 pack of bulbs at 2 for $3.98 are the same exact bulb inside and out and yet they are rated at 4.57 years.

BTW, make no mistake, that is 4.57 years. Not 4.56 or 4.58. Big Smile
That just reminds me that I should take all of that stuff with a grain of salt Wink

As to my post #154 where a massive heat sink version of the 1100 Lumen bulb had the same exact lifetime as a version with no heatsink just shows that a lot of these printed specks are just a “copy and paste”
In another thread Found: $1 LED light bulbs at Dollar Tree I made a passing inference to this with this picture. 3 manufacturers of 3 different 40W equivalent bulbs, Osram, CREE and Greenlite. All three packages had the same EXACT specs.
450 Lumens
72 cents yearly operating expenses
22.8 years service life
6 watts.
That is not a coincidence, it’s “copy and paste”

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We’ll probably be going to Lowe’s today to get a GE ground bar kit because HD doesn’t sell them in stores… so maybe I’ll find those 99¢ illuminators.

Edit: nevermind we didn’t go.

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Went to do some plumbing work on a good friends house across town today. Parts were to come from Lowes so as we hit the door I mentioned the $0.99 lights and how we’d missed them (I’ve been sick a couple days, much better now). Then two displays chock full of them appear right at the front of the store :bigsmile: Another guy was looking at them as I explained Dchomak’s tear-down with these being the same as the “better” ones. I didn’t need many so I got 2, my friend got about a dozen as did the guy looking at the lights who joined our conversation.

Oh, and the plumbing went smooth needing only one extra trip to get a copper fitting I was going to reuse but couldn’t unscrew from the old regulator. 3 wins for me today, quite a lucky day indeed!

Phil

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I picked up a dandy Utilitech headlamp at Lowes today for only ~ $12.00.

It is a single-mode ( which is all I ever want ) three AAA with motion sensing .

Wave on , wave off .

I went ahead and DC-fixed the lens as it was too spotty for my taste even though the reflector is heavily textured .

Bright enough for any close-up task and simple UI  .

Wave on , wave off .

Cool

 

Edit : I bought 20 of those $.99 LED bulbs also .

What I do

 

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jacktheclipper wrote:

I picked up a dandy Utilitech headlamp at Lowes today for only ~ $12.00.

It is a single-mode ( which is all I ever want ) three AAA with motion sensing .

Wave on , wave off .

I went ahead and DC-fixed the lens as it was too spotty for my taste even though the reflector is heavily textured .

Bright enough for any close-up task and simple UI  .

Wave on , wave off .

Cool

 

Edit : I bought 20 of those $.99 LED bulbs also .

. If your watching the right sort of movie it could have a strobe mode as well! Wink
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jacktheclipper wrote:

I picked up a dandy Utilitech headlamp at Lowes today for only ~ $12.00.

It is a single-mode ( which is all I ever want ) three AAA with motion sensing .

Wave on , wave off .

I went ahead and DC-fixed the lens as it was too spotty for my taste even though the reflector is heavily textured .

Bright enough for any close-up task and simple UI  .

Wave on , wave off .

Cool

 

Edit : I bought 20 of those $.99 LED bulbs also .

LOL,
I started reading your post and when I got to the end of the second line I realized it didn’t rhyme. That’s when I had to start all over again Smile
An advantage of the 99 cents bulb is that they a very light weight. There are certain fixtures that I have that don’t like heavy bulbs.

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Several of the Lowes around here is clearing things out. What they clear varies by store, or least WHEN they clear does. Here are some pics


Can’t read that? Price is 45 cents for CAT6 cables, 7’ long. They also had 14’ long CAT6 for 85 cents

The regular price was $8.98 and $16.98

I also found 2 spools of CAT5e cable at $3.75 each



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I need to stop by Lowes on my way home and look for network cable…

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OMG OMG OMG! GREEN WIRE CONNECTORS! Shocked Big Smile Love
They are very useful and make any electrical box much tidier. Unfortunately they are always expensive.
Too bad the nearest Lowe’s is a little too far away… Sad
I wonder how long those prices will be around. Maybe they’ll survive until we are able to go to Lowe’s.

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I got 5 of each length

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I like the feed-through greenies with a hole in the center- they really make for a tidier box.

USA NEC now requires either a green wire-nut or a mechanical crimp sleeve tying all the grounds together in boxes with a single wire going to the switch or outlet ground terminal. An added non-feedthrough pigtail wire may go over the limit for wires allowed in that box while the feedthrough wire-nut won’t.

Phil

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With a green grounding wire connector, in a box where you have a cable in and cable out (line and load) and a metal box and a device, you can ground everything with no extra pigtails. Just wrap one wire around the ground screw of the box, and then connect it to the other wire with the other wire going through the connector to the device. You actually only connect two wires but it does the same thing as having two pigtails therefore four wires.

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Some deals I saw at Lowes. Mostly stuff I needed to rewire the lights on my trailer.

These are incans, but I could plug in LEDs later


These were 7.98, then 3.99, then 1.98 and then I came along. Got it for $1.58
This is the water proof mounting hardware for the trailer connectors.

Black electrical tape would be handy for taping up connections. 30 cents a roll is a steal!

Needed some tiedowns for stringing the wires under the trailer

In case those weren’t big enough, I got some of these. They are HUGE

3 inch convex mirror to see around all that stuff I’ll be dragging behind me.

Then a couple of months ago, Lowes cleared out a lot of sockets for cheap. So cheap at first that they changed their mind and raised the price a bit. Well alot of that stuff didn’t sell at that higher price. Here is a box full of what was left and priced at 25 cents per item.

Here is what I picked out for myself. 25 cents each!
Swivel sockets, claw feet and a 3” 1/4 inch extention

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Just some stuff I found walking around Lowes.
BTW, most of this stuff I have no use for, I’ll buy anything IF it’s cheap enough. And the other day I was thinking………….. Because I usually buy stuff I need at really really good prices, I can afford to buy stuff I don’t need at really really good prices. LOL



Filament bulbs of all types. I did NOT buy any of these

These are back on sale. This was the last day though, they are no longer available at that price.

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A few of the Utilitech lights are on clearance at some stores. 3C 500 lumen $8.00, 9AA 1000 lumen $10.00.

Got a chance to mess with these today. The 3C 500 lumen is pretty nice and the build quality is much nicer then any of my Defiants. Great deal for under 8 bucks!!! I would pass on the 9AA 1000 lumen triple model but it’s still decent for only 10 bucks.

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fishx65 wrote:
A few of the Utilitech lights are on clearance at some stores. 3C 500 lumen $8.00, 9AA 1000 lumen $10.00.

Got a chance to mess with these today. The 3C 500 lumen is pretty nice and the build quality is much nicer then any of my Defiants. Great deal for under 8 bucks!!! I would pass on the 9AA 1000 lumen triple model but it’s still decent for only 10 bucks.

$8 is a great price for a 3C 500 Lumen light. I never paid attention to that light because it was $29.95! crazy high.
I just used my Lowes app while at home to check the price in MY local store.

Here is another store across the river

Here is another local store

Then I checked 2 stores one in Ohio and 1 in PA near where I just spent the last 2 weeks
Ohio, $7.49!

Erie, PA $13.49

Then thinking of PA, I checked the store GarryBunk goes to.

No wonder he is always complaining that he can’t get no deals. Big Smile

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Then thinking of PA, I checked the store GarryBunk goes to. No wonder he is always complaining that he can’t get no deals. Big Smile

Yep! Grrrr! It’s frustrating!

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Does LOWES have a designated “Clearance” area like HD does?

My local HD has two such areas with a big yellow CLEARANCE banner over it. When I went to my local LOWES and walked around for a bit, I didn’t see one.

All I was able to find at LOWES is scattered yellow tags here and there.

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deathless wrote:
Does LOWES have a designated “Clearance” area like HD does?

My local HD has two such areas with a big yellow CLEARANCE banner over it. When I went to my local LOWES and walked around for a bit, I didn’t see one.

All I was able to find at LOWES is scattered yellow tags here and there.

They don’t seem to have permanent areas for clearance items as Home Depot does. In my local stores there will sometimes be rolling carts in the front isle or rear isle with clearance items. Then there is usually yellow clearance stickers throughout the store on items that are on clearance. Lowes doesn’t follow as strict a formula for discounting as HD. But sometimes they have stuff for 5 or 10 cents on the dollar.

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I was at the Lowes store today that is “over the river”. I don’t know about the one “thru the woods” or “to Grandmothers house” but this one now has the Utilitech 3C 500 Lumen flashlight for $7.49. I just checked my local store and it too is now $7.49 I picked one up to try out.

Garry’s store is still $17.98 though Tired

Good news Garry. If you lived in Latrobe, PA you would have to pay even more. They get an extra $6

What this all really means though is that they are on their way out. Just be patient and the price will come to you

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I just got a chance to check out the Utilitech 3C I just picked up at Lowes. Pretty nice light, has the older XM-L in it. No tailcap switch, it is up by the head which I like. My biggest surprise is that this 3C light accepts 26650’s, THEY FIT!
I have never seen that in a “C” sized light.
Think of the possibilities.

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You’re making me buy another light dchomak. Maybe I’ll get lucky on the price this time- at least I can look, BTW, what is the lens/reflector diameter? Thanks!

Phil

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