what is this new 32 mm diameter 4xXP Noctigon board good for?

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what is this new 32 mm diameter 4xXP Noctigon board good for?
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None of the optics mentioned on that page can use all four emitters. Sad  There's several triple optics that should work though.  Hopefully Hank is working with someone to produce quad optics for it, especially since dsche doesn't plan on making any more of his quad copper XP mcpcb's.

I sent Hank a message.  Hopefully he answers, and soon.

The low mode should be lower.

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It seems like the 4th emitter may not be intended to have a lens:

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where the center LED can be used for various purposes, e.g. low voltage warning red light
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It'd be nice if I could read, eh?  That's pretty cool.  I've been looking at lights with a flat spot where an extra switch could be installed.  Now there's a nice mcpcb for it.  Now I need to find those switches.

The low mode should be lower.

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Nice!

Its a large single emitter mcpcb.

Or its a triple emitter mcpcb.

Or its a tripe emitter mcpcb with the possibility to but an extra led in the middle. Use your imagination. Red led for low voltage warning or something..

How many times have you not needed an mcpcb thats around 25-32mm in size either due a partially hollow pill or a reflector that is so wide at the bottom that getting the emitter focused is a PITA? There have been a few cases in my modding history when one of those would have been a useful and simple solution to a problem.

Hank seems to have gives us that large single emitter copper mcpcb that many of us have needed. But at the same time made it into something that serves several purposes (triple emitter).

Sometimes 32mm is too large though. Hopefully it can be trimmed down to around 25mm and still function as a large single emitter mcpcb. Im not so sure that is possible though.

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This is a Triple LED direct thermal path copper MCPCB that can be used a Single LED board also with those flashlights using 32mm MCPCBs. The single LED is isolated, so it’s not part of the Triple parallel or series configuration. The features part of the page has several helpful explanations.
The 3XP and XP32 board are 3Oz copper thickness, not the standard 1Oz copper weight used in the circuit industry.

On the website we have attached drawings of the board and where to solder the leads (yellow and blue). In triple parallel configuration there are various options for the leads soldering compared to the strict series configuration.

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nice one, i like the idea you can use single led in huge MCPCB .also it might be a good upgrade for the DQG 26650

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Hank Wang wrote:
This is a Triple LED direct thermal path copper MCPCB that can be used a Single LED board also with those flashlights using 32mm MCPCBs. The single LED is isolated, so it’s not part of the Triple parallel or series configuration. The features part of the page has several helpful explanations.
The 3XP and XP32 board are 3Oz copper thickness, not the standard 1Oz copper weight used in the circuit industry.

On the website we have attached drawings of the board and where to solder the leads (yellow and blue). In triple parallel configuration there are various options for the leads soldering compared to the strict series configuration.

As RaceR86 said, very cool :)!!

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Hank, you would probably sell a lot more of these if you offered various triple emitter optics for them from your store. Will you start selling suitable optics?

Just saw the wiring picture (that was just added?). Does not look like you can connect the single emitter in the middle if its trimmed down to 25mm width. The 16mm sinkpads have that feature. You can easily trim them, and still connect wires. Picture.

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Just saw the wiring picture (that was just added?). Does not look like you can connect the single emitter in the middle if its trimmed down to 25mm width. The 16mm sinkpads have that feature. You can easily trim them, and still connect wires.

The trace is there so just scrape off the solder mask to expose a new pad where you need it.

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I dont even care about the triple option, I’m just thankful for the single center pad and 32mm base! I’ve needed larger direct copper single boards many times now these will be great for building mega throwers, things like the olight SR series and thrunite TN’s, (and with some grinding they’ll also be good for ZY-T08’s and HD2010’s). Will these be coming out for XM’s? Even if not the triple part can we get what would be part number XM32?

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XM32 - XM-L

MT32 - MT-G2

 

Hell I'd be happy with XM-L and MT-G2 in 25mm or 30mm  Single copper mcpcbs

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any hosts that will fit this ?

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Waited the xml version for so long!
ZY-T13 & 08, Boruit, etc

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djozz wrote:

http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-xp32-advanced-direct-thermal-path-coppe...

Most interesting!

Ah I see the emitter with the ! point, depending if it is series or parallel will need to be polarity correct…very very interesting

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Very clever design!

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I can’t think of the use of 3 LEDs with this Noctigon board until Hank introduce some optics that fit with this, but as some other said the application for single LED in light like the T08 is brilliant! I don’t have to grind the base of the reflector anymore. Smile

But wait this is not for XM-L2 yet?

P.S. Hank I’ve sent you a PM here in BLF, looking forward to your reply and thanks.

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We will offer the XP-L by next week.
The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

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Hank Wang wrote:
We will offer the XP-L by next week. The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

Nice! I hope for neutral 80cri versions of the XP-L too Innocent

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djozz wrote:

Hank Wang wrote:
We will offer the XP-L by next week. The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

Nice! I hope for neutral 80cri versions of the XP-L too Innocent


At some point later those probably will be offered too. Usually people stay away from 4500K-4000K, only after they have the chance to use them in real life they like them.

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Hank Wang wrote:
We will offer the XP-L by next week.
The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The one in the middle should be an xml.

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middle should be red xpe2 Smile

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Dive lights sometimes incorporate a red emitter to make up for sunlight wavelengths that have been absorbed by water depth. The cute3 SS is the best triple optic I have used, it would be great if you carried them Hank.

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zeremefico wrote:
Hank Wang wrote:
We will offer the XP-L by next week.
The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The one in the middle should be an xml.

I second that. We need XM-L2 32mm Noctigon board too.
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bibihang wrote:
zeremefico wrote:
Hank Wang wrote:
We will offer the XP-L by next week.
The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The one in the middle should be an xml.

I second that. We need XM-L2 32mm Noctigon board too.
Me too… But, pre-soldered.

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The CREE XP-L LED is using the same die as XM-L2 LED only in the XP package size, same footprint. This is the response CREE has offered to the market request of high power LEDs.
http://www.cree.com/LED-Components-and-Modules/Products/XLamp/Discrete-D...XPL

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true you dont need anymore xml

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I really worry about the XPL & XML reflector compability.
Are we sure that the XML reflector is compatible with the new XPL?
Is the focusing more difficult with XPL?

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Hank Wang wrote:
We will offer the XP-L by next week.
The 32mm Noctigon board is designed for XP-L/XP-G2/Nichia, not for XM-L, so, there will be no XM-L version.

Don’t forget new centering rings for XP-L (or they are the same as for XP-G/2?)…

 

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Triple XP-L in parallel with Ledil CUTE-3 SS put inside Nitecore EA4 or EA41, I guess? Smile

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MustSimon wrote:

Triple XP-L in parallel with Ledil CUTE-3 SS put inside Nitecore EA4 or EA41, I guess? Smile

Sounds great, let us know the solution you come up with to fit the huge XM-L-size XP-L dome into the TIR made for tiny XP LEDs.

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