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Which holster do people on here love? Is this http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cree-xml-t6-5-mode-6700k-450-lumen-smooth-a... an option for 5-mode? Or is the dropin you posted better?

 

No clue on the holster. That is a fine drop in if you want 5 modes low, medium, high, strobe and sos if you want 3 mode high, medium and low the Manafont one is better. I would order from Manafont if you are going to get the Solarforce light.

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E1320 wrote:
That is a fine drop in if you want 5 modes low, medium, high, strobe and sos if you want 3 mode high, medium and low the Manafont one is better. I would order from Manafont if you are going to get the Solarforce light.
For which reason would you order from Manafont? With a front clickie I would even prefer a 5-mode. Strobe would be nice, but isn't really suffcient. What is the difference between textured and smooth reflector? Anybody that can recommend a good fitting holster for the Solarforce L2T body?
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I was asking about bike mounts a few months ago. I recommend this mount http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-bicycle-swivel-mount-for-flashlights-and-lasers-1-7-3-0cm-flexible-diameter-21314 . It swivels, and can be released quickly. The flashlight strap is a little bigger than it needs to be, but it is a pretty good mount for $2.79

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Be-Seen Triker wrote:

biker wrote:
Is the 504B is a reverse clickie? Reverse clickie is a no-go for me as you have to click through all modes until light is finally off. ...

No... this is not the case.  That is what memory is for.  A good driver will remember the previous mode and will only switch modes when you use the momentary function of the reverse clicky.  It is a short interupt without having to click.  That is why reverse clickies seem common.

Regarding the reverse clickie:

How long will the driver remember the previos mode. I think this is temporally only?
So to switch on the light in the first mode (high), you have to push the button until the click.
What happens now when you only press lightly without clicking (next mode?) and what when clicking again (light off?)?

Is there a difference between dropin with smmoth and textured reflector?

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Just to clarify that a reverse clickie is not what I'm looking for:

Momentary is not possible when light is off. You have to switch permanently on first, button has to click. Correct so far?
What happens now when pushing the button lightly so that it won't click? And what when clicking?

A textured reflector should be the better choice for me. But the difference is probably not this big, is it?

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reverse clicky multimode lights work like this: light is off, pushing it all the way so it clicks switches the light on (mostly on last used mode, high for example)

slightly pushing it for a short time will change the mode to next one

when the light is on for few seconds on one mode and then turned off, it will turn on in that mode (in some drivers the memory is with the light turned off for some seconds, some don't have memory at all, always start on high)

forward clicky multimode is weird, you have to slightly push it to turn it on momentary and depress the clicky to change mode, you can't change mode while on

OP reflectors are better for bike, smoother beam is better

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So is momentary light not possible with a reverse clickie?

Momentary function of a forward clickie is that what I'm looking for.
Changing the mode means to switch the light off (click), then again on (click). Hence there is no memory and you have always to click through the complete modes to have the mode you had before switching off?

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Can nobody of you guys answer m question regarding the clickie? That's quite important to me and the last issue before placing the order.. I would prefer the forward clickie because of the momentary light. How exactly is the operation of the L2T host with the 5-modes XM-L 6T dropin from DX: When the light is switch on in the 1st mode. What will happen when switching completely off and on again (2x click)? Will the light run in the 2nd mode then? Does this mean that you always have to click through the complete 5 modes to start again in the mode you have sitched the light off before? Or is there at least something like a memory function that is deleted after a certain time so that the light runs in the first mode regardless of the mode the light has been switched off?
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Be-Seen Triker wrote:
The memory takes after a few seconds.
So when you are in mode 3 for example and you swith off the light for some certain seconds and then switch on again, it will start in mode 1 again, right? How many seconds does it take until memory gets deleted normally?
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Be-Seen Triker wrote:

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Be-Seen Triker wrote:
The memory takes after a few seconds.
So when you are in mode 3 for example and you swith off the light for some certain seconds and then switch on again, it will start in mode 1 again, right? How many seconds does it take until memory gets deleted normally?

Nope, it starts in mode 3 again.  Memory actually takes affect pretty quickly depending on the driver.

Regardless how long I wait until switching on again? What are group modes?
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Crazy modes, I hope that the use of this dropin http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cree-xml-t6-5-mode-6700k-450-lumen-smooth-a... will be as easy as possible. As momentary light is very important tome I have to live with this memory feature.But I do hope that the memory sets after short time in the off mode. One last questions regarding the modes. Is the momentary light always @ hi mode or could it also be @ 1st mode (which is low for the dropin above I wnat to order)?
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I have 3 of those drop ins

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cree-xml-t6-5-mode-6700k-450-lumen-smooth-a...

and 3 of those bike mounts

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-bicycle-mount-for-flashlights-and...

If you look at the comments on the drop in that I posted on the DX site the first one I recieved was under driven AK47 1.4 amps but the last 2 I got came with ultrafire direct drive drop ins 3+amps.

Those bike mounts are super heavy duty I bought one and then 2 more they work excellent for off road they don't move at all when tightened and have been holding up very well. Shiningbeam sells the same ones for a lot more money.

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Be-Seen Triker wrote:

LOL... I stand corrected!

Sorry Biker and Triker we must be confusing the hell out of you.

I'll post a picture of my bike to change the subject in typical BLF fashion.

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504B fits well in this http://www.dealextreme.com/p/nylon-flashlight-case-w-cover-2-pack-1374 (is it possible to buy 1 ore 2-pack). I think that "large" edition would be too big Smile

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Regarding this under driven thing: Is there a big differnce in the light output between under and direct driven?
I would like to have as much as as possible in hi mode. I still got the med and low mode for extending batterie's life.
Or will there araise a problem with heat havin 3+ amps?

Btw how many amps got the drop-in which comes with the 504B from DX?

I will try the mount that E1320 uses because it looks very solid to me, more than the other one does. E1320 very nice bike. When your flashlights don't move riding this bike appropriately off-road than it will also hold on my bike. Only thing is that the bike is remarkably clean..;)

I prefer this http://www.dealextreme.com/p/large-flashlight-holster-1152 as it is closed on the bottom.

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http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-tr-001-multi-purpose-lithium-batt...

Is this one also available with Euro plug? I can't find it.

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biker wrote:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-tr-001-multi-purpose-lithium-batt...

Is this one also available with Euro plug? I can't find it.

Yes DX will send the correct plug for the country they ship it to.

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Tonight a friend of mine showed me his Powerlight HX-G011 which was quite cheap.

Yes, it must have been cheap as the light output is defintely bad and ugly blue to purple.
How much better is the 504B in comparison?

But it was good that I tested this flashlight. The Powerlight has a reverse clickie and I realized that reverse is absolutely okay. The clikie is not as loud as feared and you can handle it very fast.
Overall the handling seems easier and smoother to me as this of a forwrd cklickie.

That means I will buy the complete 504B from DX.

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How many amps got the dropin of the 504B?

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Lol 118 posts. With all due respect, buy one already!! =P It's not rocket science, and I'm sure you'd be satisfied with just about any of the setups mentioned.

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No rocket science, but still not so easy to get the best bang!


@ E1320: You have lately received some 504B from DX. Are they under driven, too?

Regarding the XM-L 6T dropin you have ordered seperately you wrote that the last ones ordered are direct driven.

So should I better order the XM-L dropin from DX and the 504B host from Manafont (as it is not available at DX)?

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Be-Seen Triker wrote:

If you're talking about this one:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-wf504b-xm-lt6-5-mode-510-lumen-white-led-flashlight-with-strap-black-1-x-18650-57099

...it seems to be under driven.  One review claims 1.1-1.2Amps.  Plenty for a bike light but it won't blaze to level an XM-L can reach.  Its a good place to start, though.

Triker serious man I have posted multiple times that DX stopped delivering the under driven drop in months ago you must be having a blast trying to confuse this poor guy. I posted a link on DX of my review of the drop in I posted a picture of 4 of these lights that I own poor Biker is getting seriously frustrated.

Triker do you own a 504B from DX with the DX drop in?

Triker do you own a new 5 mode drop in from DX?

Triker if you can answer yes to these questions please take your DMM and measure tailcap amperage on high so we can stop the nonsense.

 I have a theory that DX was using XPG drivers when the XMLs first came out until they could source the right drivers for them that is why the under driven XML is no longer available from DX.

Biker I own this setup it works great the drop in is not under driven it is the same direct drive driver that Manafont, KD and DX all use. This drop in delvers over 3 amps on high about 800 lumens.

I  am happy with this setup. This is the cheapest way to get the most light.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-tr-001-multi-purpose-lithium-batt...

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-protected-18650-3-7v-true-2400mah...

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-wf504b-xm-lt6-5-mode-510-lumen-wh...

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/universal-bicycle-mount-for-flashlights-and...

I am sorry you had to PM me because people are purposefully trying to confuse you I am not posting anymore. If someone asks you about a product you don't own tell them that don't make stuff up.

 

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Thanks for this clear statement E120!

I absolutely trust your recommendations as should have most experience having ordered several 504Bs and using them for biking, too.

So I will will order the complete 504B from DX and hope that I also will receive a direct driven version.

@ Be-Seen Triker: Have you ordered a 504B or a XM-L 6T 5-mode dropin lately? E1320 is right: It makes non sense to give statements without owning this flashlight/ this dropin and having made your own experience.

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Be-Seen Triker wrote:

LOL... no, not trying to confuse at all.  Back in post 108, you were talking about dropins, not the complete 504B.  There is no reason to believe that DX is putting their dropins in the lights.  Where did you say the 504B had the same experience?

I don't know why I would have to own -that- 504B to read the ad... 510 lumens on an XM-L T6 is underdriver... and the reviews state the same.  That is all I was saying.

edit: DOH!  just went back and on #59 E1320 said that he -also- has the 504B's... LOL  That was -days- ago!

 

I have purchased them in hosts and just as a drop in I have a theory that DX was using XPG drivers when the XMLs first came out until they could source the right drivers for them that is why the under driven XML is no longer available from DX.

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Yes, I ordered the complete package from DX on Sunday - splitted in 2 shipments in order to avoid paying import dues. I hope it won't take too long until I receive the shipment. I will advise once I have tested the flashlight for the first time.
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While waiting for the delivery, can you please advise if and how I should do anything regarding the heat dissipation of the dropin? Is there somewhere a how to here in the forum? I couldn't find anything.
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Wrap the drop in with foil so it fits tightly in the host to help with the heat dispersion.

Don made a nice tutorial here.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/1403#comment-21791

here is more info

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/1919

Edit: I fixed the links.

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Thanks for your replies. @ E1320: The links are not working. What key words shall I search for to find these threads?

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