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Unusual Olight S20-L2 Baton

I bought an Olight S20-L2 Baton on eBay, but didn’t get what I was hoping for. First thing I noticed was the reflector – smooth, instead of orange peel:

There are some scratches inside the bezel (hard to capture on camera):

After checking the official website and some reviews I noticed even more discrepancies. This side looks normal:

On the other side there are differences. The serial number is below the model name, not on the head:

The serial number begins with “E”. I have 4 more Olight flashlights, all their serial numbers start with “D”. Have you ever seen an “E” serial number?

Notice the writings are upside down, compared to an S15:

Comparing it with S15, the anodizing, build quality, box, accesories and overall feel is the same, so I’m 99.99% sure it’s not a fake or anything.

I tried contacting Olight, still no answer.

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Please write down, if you have an answer because my S20L2 looks just like yours.

I have one from Gearbest.

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I have an Olight S20-L2 Baton that looks just like yours. I also bought mine from eBay, but I have no doubt it is a legitimate Olight product. The scratches in your bezel are a quality issue. You may get some satisfaction from that, but probably not. I prefer the smooth reflector, and I probably wouldn’t have bought it if I thought it had orange peel. Overall, I’m very happy with my S20. Only thing that gripes me is the stupid belt clip. It is badly designed, and in the wrong place – at the head.

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Aren’t the smooth reflector and serial under the model number stuff that they added on the updated XM-L2 models? My S10 (XM-L2) has all that same stuff. Also the button on L2 model S20 has been switched to hard plastic one, instead of the white soft silicone button with low voltage indicator (removed).

One change that I really disliked in the S10-L2 is that the clip is made from thicker metal, and is a bit too stiff to my liking.

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Appears to be a new series.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
Wow. Just wow. In northern Iraq ISIS is slaughtering people, kidnapping and raping women, and generally killing anyone they choose to as they capitalize on a shattered society that we, the west, generously shattered for them.

In Gaza, Israelis are doing their best to run their version of a Holocaust on the Palestinians. Doing unto others as others have done unto them. In Gods name.

In west Africa, people are dying like flies of Ebola, while in north Africa girls are being pinned to the ground while someone mutilates their genitals with a shard of broken glass.

On BLF we whine and complain about a scratch on the bezel of a $40 flashlight that we didn’t need in the first place.

I’m suddenly ashamed of us and our First World problems. If our flashlights are so offensive to us, perhaps we should send them to someone on a mountain top in Iraq who doesn’t even have a candle, or give the next $40 headlamp to a Red Cross or Medecins sans Frontiers physician so they can see to stop up a bullet hole in some innocent child at midnight.

Frankly, having the wrong textured reflector or a slightly mismatched anodizing job is pretty damned insignificant if we take the time to look a bit beyond. The fact that we can waste our breath bitching about those things simply proves us as being unbelievably fortunate. And ignorant of it.

I apologise for the bring-down. Maybe I should stop watching the news. Ignorance is bliss, they say. And besides, my S20 works fine, scratches and all.

Alright. Now that I’ve re-read my rant and I’m still agitated, here’s what I propose. BLF is a good place, filled for the most part with uncommonly decent people.

I suggest we dig through our redundant stuff, specifically stuff that runs on AA or D batteries, and ship them off to people who actually need them. International aid organizations. Red Cross. MSF. Anyone that may hold your respect.

Headlamps in particular; I have three or four myself that will otherwise end up on a garage sale some day. Maybe some board member might have connections with such an organization that we could utilize. Maybe we could get some of the manufacturers on board, with obsolete or blemished units that no longer sell.

It’s better than just sitting here whining about our piddly assed QC beefs. I’m really becoming tired of that. I’d rather do something constructive.

Like spending 10 minutes typing a post that makes you look like a twat?

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First world problems….

The quality of lights have NOTHING to do with any of that stuff. Asking a few things about a questionable quality flashlight is EXACTLY what BLF is for! Please don’t lecture everyone and yell at the OP when he’s posting legit concerns about a FLASHLIGHT on a FLASHLIGHT forum.

The world will AWAYS be in peril, that’s just human nature. If you want to rant about it to do so in a CNN/FOX news link comment section or Facebook…

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lionheart_2281 wrote:
Tumbleweed48 wrote:
Wow. Just wow. In northern Iraq ISIS is slaughtering people, kidnapping and raping women, and generally killing anyone they choose to as they capitalize on a shattered society that we, the west, generously shattered for them.

In Gaza, Israelis are doing their best to run their version of a Holocaust on the Palestinians. Doing unto others as others have done unto them. In Gods name.

In west Africa, people are dying like flies of Ebola, while in north Africa girls are being pinned to the ground while someone mutilates their genitals with a shard of broken glass.

On BLF we whine and complain about a scratch on the bezel of a $40 flashlight that we didn’t need in the first place.

I’m suddenly ashamed of us and our First World problems. If our flashlights are so offensive to us, perhaps we should send them to someone on a mountain top in Iraq who doesn’t even have a candle, or give the next $40 headlamp to a Red Cross or Medecins sans Frontiers physician so they can see to stop up a bullet hole in some innocent child at midnight.

Frankly, having the wrong textured reflector or a slightly mismatched anodizing job is pretty damned insignificant if we take the time to look a bit beyond. The fact that we can waste our breath bitching about those things simply proves us as being unbelievably fortunate. And ignorant of it.

I apologise for the bring-down. Maybe I should stop watching the news. Ignorance is bliss, they say. And besides, my S20 works fine, scratches and all.

Alright. Now that I’ve re-read my rant and I’m still agitated, here’s what I propose. BLF is a good place, filled for the most part with uncommonly decent people.

I suggest we dig through our redundant stuff, specifically stuff that runs on AA or D batteries, and ship them off to people who actually need them. International aid organizations. Red Cross. MSF. Anyone that may hold your respect.

Headlamps in particular; I have three or four myself that will otherwise end up on a garage sale some day. Maybe some board member might have connections with such an organization that we could utilize. Maybe we could get some of the manufacturers on board, with obsolete or blemished units that no longer sell.

It’s better than just sitting here whining about our piddly assed QC beefs. I’m really becoming tired of that. I’d rather do something constructive.

Like spending 10 minutes typing a post that makes you look like a twat?


Alright, let’s take it easy on Tumbleweed48, who obviously just had a moment of conscience and needed to do something with it. The rant is somewhat out of place here, but realize that when feelings like that hit you all of a sudden, it can be overwhelming. And, really, it is true that we could all stand to do a little less getting and a little more giving sometimes.

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Yeah, I suppose you’re right. The majority always is.

Back to self indulgence and whining about the anodizing being 3 microns off perfect.

Sorry for the distraction.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
Yeah, I suppose you’re right. The majority always is.

Back to self indulgence and whining about the anodizing being 3 microns off perfect.

Sorry for the distraction.

I don’t get the point of your rant… This is a forum purely dedicated to flashlights, what do you expect people to be talking about!? Are you going to go over to a Lamborghini forum and tell everyone there they should sell their cars because they could have just bought a corolla and donated the rest of the money to charity???

There is a time and a place for everything. But this is not the place to be posting a massive rant about world issues…

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lol what a random rant! Save your politicking for another forum.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
Yeah, I suppose you’re right. The majority always is.

Back to self indulgence and whining about the anodizing being 3 microns off perfect.

Sorry for the distraction.

You should remove yourself from the internet if you’re that prescious, pettle.
Need me to google a donations forum for you?
Maybe you should cease your monthly internet / phone connection and send that money to charity (and leave the rest of us that want reviews, advice and discussion on torches alone)

Cheers.

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Ouch.. that got side-tracked, derailed, crashed and burned into a train wreck quickly.
As for the S20, its either a new change they are doing on the L2 models or batch of knock-offs surfacing on the market ?

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The point was that here we are, sitting on mounds of hoarded flashlights that we rarely if ever use. Then we moan and gripe ad nauseum about every minuscule imperfection in them that we can detect – while so many others have no light at all, and sometimes die for lack of one.

But as I said, I’m sure you’re quite right.

It’s all about us, and our flashlights.

I apologise for the distraction. Please, carry on.

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You’re right – because people die, we should not expect to get the products we pay for. Good point.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
The point was that here we are, sitting on mounds of hoarded flashlights that we rarely if ever use. Then we moan and gripe ad nauseum about every minuscule imperfection in them that we can detect - while so many others have no light at all, and sometimes die for lack of one.
Preachy, inappropriate point of view understood by all. 

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But as I said, I'm sure you're quite right. It's all about us, and our flashlights. I apologise for the distraction. Please, carry on.
Snide, prickish comments and insincere apology not accepted. Piss off.
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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
It’s better than just sitting here whining about our piddly assed QC beefs. I’m really becoming tired of that. I’d rather do something constructive.

Does this mean your leaving BLF?
You are correct, however none of us are presidents of countries or in a position of power where we can fix world problems, and if you feel we should do more then start a charity drive or do something about it, if you have the solutions to these problems then go about implementing them.

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LSX wrote:
Tumbleweed48 wrote:
Yeah, I suppose you’re right. The majority always is.

Back to self indulgence and whining about the anodizing being 3 microns off perfect.

Sorry for the distraction.

I don’t get the point of your rant… This is a forum purely dedicated to flashlights, what do you expect people to be talking about!? Are you going to go over to a Lamborghini forum and tell everyone there they should sell their cars because they could have just bought a corolla and donated the rest of the money to charity???

There is a time and a place for everything. But this is not the place to be posting a massive rant about world issues…


Hey a Crapolla is every bit as good as a Lamborghini….eee forget about it :bigsmile:

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okay…..with all that aside, I am still curious about the differences in olight products. I recently dropped my s10 and it stopped working. So while I’m planning on modding it, I’d like to know about future products/ quality before I think about replacing it. Was thinking of going with the s20, so therein lies my quest for answers REGARDING FLASHLIGHTS!

Even just seeing/ hearing the differences with switch quality and material changes there, i’ve become a little weary of what to look for!

Thanks all!

ha ha oh yeah, @lionheart_2281, post #9 was priceless Smile

….just one more….

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Your S20-L2 matches with our current inventory we received from Olight within the last 2 months.

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Thank you for clearing that up CalvinIS

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Thanks for everyone with constructive answers cough Tumbleweed48 cough Smile

I got a reply from Olight:

“Hi Alex,

Thanks for your feedback about our products. I’m Linda from Olight customer service.
The orange peel refector are used on the old S20 Baton. And now there is no orange peel reflecor;
Now the new S20-L2 Baton all used the smooth reflector, the serial number is on the side of the tube,under the model number and the serial itself is started with a “E”, “E“represent the goods produced in 2014.

If any other questions, please kindly let us know. Thanks.

Best regards
Linda”

Merlin131 wrote:
I have one from Gearbest.

Too bad, I was thinking maybe getting one from them if they had the older orange peel model. Oh well, this will be good enough.

DavidEF wrote:
I prefer the smooth reflector, and I probably wouldn’t have bought it if I thought it had orange peel. Overall, I’m very happy with my S20. Only thing that gripes me is the stupid belt clip. It is badly designed, and in the wrong place – at the head.

I’m the opposite – I prefer orange peel to smooth out the hotspot artifacts, and I probably wouldn’t have bought it if I new it had smooth reflector. I also dislike the clip for the stated reasons. And the difference between moon and low is too small, IMHO.

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After thinking about it more, I’ve realized that I probably overstated my preference for smooth reflectors. I do like the look of them better, but as far as light output goes, it wouldn’t make much difference to me in this light. The beam is pretty wide anyway, so the extra smoothing wouldn’t hurt it. You’re also right about the difference from Moon to Low. It is too small of a gap. Personally, I’d keep Moon where it is, move Low up about 10 to 20 lumens higher. Or even, split the difference between Low and Med, maybe hit around 50 to 60 lumens, and do away with one of those modes. So, Moon (0.5 lm), Low (55 lm?), High (550 lm) or something like that. As it is, I have not found a use for Low.

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DavidEF wrote:
After thinking about it more, I've realized that I probably overstated my preference for smooth reflectors. I do like the look of them better, but as far as light output goes, it wouldn't make much difference to me in this light. The beam is pretty wide anyway, so the extra smoothing wouldn't hurt it. You're also right about the difference from Moon to Low. It is too small of a gap. Personally, I'd keep Moon where it is, move Low up about 10 to 20 lumens higher. Or even, split the difference between Low and Med, maybe hit around 50 to 60 lumens, and do away with one of those modes. So, Moon (0.5 lm), Low (55 lm?), High (550 lm) or something like that. As it is, I have not found a use for Low.

I think the mode spacing on this light is the best I have seen, also moon-low difference is perfect to me. And I have the same mixed feeling about the smooth reflector, it causes some (first world Wink ) artifacts, a very slight OP would be a bit better. The light colour in my unit is a bit too green to my taste.

 

As a side note: I think some of you guys are too harsh on the comments of Tumbleweed. This is a flashlight forum and as such one should discuss a less than perfect anodisation job, and I agree that aiming for a better world (as important as it is) is more something to do outside this forum (unimportant things are just as important as important things!). But on the other hand, BLF is famous for off-topic discussion and that is one of the things I appreciate a lot here. So a discussion like his every now and then (as long as it is not clearly political, which violates the forum rules) is something perhaps to comment on, but IMO does not deserve the quite brute responses that I read in this thread.

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djozz wrote:

DavidEF wrote:
After thinking about it more, I’ve realized that I probably overstated my preference for smooth reflectors. I do like the look of them better, but as far as light output goes, it wouldn’t make much difference to me in this light. The beam is pretty wide anyway, so the extra smoothing wouldn’t hurt it. You’re also right about the difference from Moon to Low. It is too small of a gap. Personally, I’d keep Moon where it is, move Low up about 10 to 20 lumens higher. Or even, split the difference between Low and Med, maybe hit around 50 to 60 lumens, and do away with one of those modes. So, Moon (0.5 lm), Low (55 lm?), High (550 lm) or something like that. As it is, I have not found a use for Low.

I think the mode spacing on this light is the best I have seen, also moon-low difference is perfect to me. And I have the same mixed feeling about the smooth reflector, it causes some (first world Wink ) artifacts, a very slight OP would be a bit better. The light colour in my unit is a bit too green to my taste.

 

As a side note: I think some of you guys are too harsh on the comments of Tumbleweed. This is a flashlight forum and as such one should discuss a less than perfect anodisation job, and I agree that aiming for a better world (as important as it is) is more something to do outside this forum (unimportant things are just as important as important things!). But on the other hand, BLF is famous for off-topic discussion and that is one of the things I appreciate a lot here. So a discussion like his every now and then (as long as it is not clearly political, which violates the forum rules) is something perhaps to comment on, but IMO does not deserve the quite brute responses that I read in this thread.


Perfect! I agree
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djozz wrote:

 

As a side note: I think some of you guys are too harsh on the comments of Tumbleweed. This is a flashlight forum and as such one should discuss a less than perfect anodisation job, and I agree that aiming for a better world (as important as it is) is more something to do outside this forum (unimportant things are just as important as important things!). But on the other hand, BLF is famous for off-topic discussion and that is one of the things I appreciate a lot here. So a discussion like his every now and then (as long as it is not clearly political, which violates the forum rules) is something perhaps to comment on, but IMO does not deserve the quite brute responses that I read in this thread.

If it was a spin-off in “Off-topic Chatter”, I’d have to agree, but hijacking my thread, well, not so much. Wink

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That's the beauty of BLF. We can hijack any thread and go freely off-topic. Smile

 

Back on-topic: Have you considered stippling the reflector?

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the wrote:

That’s the beauty of BLF. We can hijack any thread and go freely off-topic. Smile

 

Back on-topic: Have you considered stippling the reflector?


I agree, but ranting on the OP like that was uncalled for

However Dilbert is always welcome Smile

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