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Nice looking 26650.


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Could use a red tailcap


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My intrested N the driver be upgraded. Along with emitter?

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Are the threads on the tailcap side of the battery tube anodized?

The low mode should be lower.

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Interesting!

Did you see any PWM ?

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So the reflector screws over the top of the emitter? Is that a large flat base on the reflector that more or less smooshes the star down on the pill (and possibly shorts out the solder blobs on the wires?)

Can you get us some better pictures of how the reflector screws into the pill please

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Triangular threads. Somewhat like Tangsfire C8.

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Are the threads on the tailcap side of the battery tube anodized?

PWM is present. Glasses

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Did you see any PWM ?

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Reflector is screwed to the inner edge of the pill.

Solder blobs on the wires have to be equally flat. Kapton tape the reflector base to ensure they are not shorted.

I am removing the LED now. Will take a photo of the pill surface later.

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So the reflector screws over the top of the emitter? Is that a large flat base on the reflector that more or less smooshes the star down on the pill (and possibly shorts out the solder blobs on the wires?)

Can you get us some better pictures of how the reflector screws into the pill please

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Compared with F13?

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This looks decent too. K68.

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Where to get red buttons? I got too many green one now. Haha.

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Nice looking 26650. Roooxane

Could use a red tailcap

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I’ve seen pink & orange but for some reason not red replacement tailcaps.
Thats a picture of the UltraFire LZZ-F15 which comes with red stock.


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Is the bezel stainless steel?

No memory, so does it start on high all the time or does it start in the next mode?

Thanks for the review!

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Good question. My guess is aluminium or some sort of alloy, but it has been treated to look like stainless steel. Weight is slightly heavier than alu but lighter than stainless. Sorry, I am not expert in metal.

Too many stuffs happening today, I forgotten to check on the mode sequence. My apology. Maybe you can check with vendor if you are interested to purchase. I have already swapped out the driver.

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Is the bezel stainless steel?

No memory, so does it start on high all the time or does it start in the next mode?

Thanks for the review!

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Thanks anyway!

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Thanks for the review.  I too am curious as to how it compares with the Ultrafire F13.  What is the diameter of the glass lens?

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Subscribed, will take a closer look at your review soon. Thanks for doing it!

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F13 produces the most horrible thread noise I have ever heard. Heat goes straight to tail section rather fast at HIGH, despite having so much radiating fins. Probably due to thin body wall thickness. AAA battery carrier (WB version) works but not fitting. F13 comes with several cosmetic defects and anodizing is weak.

Ultrafire F13 is very cheap, but you will realize that it also feel cheap after using it for a while. I hate to tell myself “You get what you pay for”. I have lot of fun modifying my F13s, throw distance is very good and heat management issue can be improved but I am not happy with it. Sorry but I have say that it is definitely not a light that I feel grabbing with.

Roxane M6 has slightly slimmer body. It is on par with Convoy grade in my opinion, in term of finishing, design and material. Downside will be lack of new CREE and powerful driver. I like my new setup with XM-L2 T6-1B on Noctigon with Qlite (+3×350mA) on 4th star. It has a bigger hotspot and spill than F13 or C8 with stock reflector. About 26KCD when I measured. Will post some shots if you guys are interested.

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Compared with F13?

41.7mm x 41.7mm x 1.7mm

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Thanks for the review.  I too am curious as to how it compares with the Ultrafire F13.  What is the diameter of the glass lens?

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Nice photos, what kind of camera?

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It is the person behind the camera that matters. :bigsmile:
>> Canon EOS 600D Kit (Rebel T3i)… I have dumped my red rings.

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It is the person behind the camera that matters. :bigsmile:
People will never stop asking though. :-\

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It is the person behind the camera that matters. :bigsmile:
People will never stop asking though. :-\

I have read that famous ken rockwell piece and i disagree, an amateur with a poor camera will do poorly, and with a good camera will do slightly better. A professional with a poor camera will do well and far better with a good camera. A person does as well as their skill level, if they have poor equipment their skill can’t fully shine, if they have poor skills there is nothing to shine, if they have the knack the limiting factor becomes the equipment and with good equipment they can do amazing things.

I noticed the pictures are composed very well, but when i saw the picture of the driver i knew for sure you were using a good camera, there is no way in hell i can get such a clear photo from my point and shoot, no matter how i arrange the lighting or lighting source, no matter what aperture or shutter i use, the camera just cannot take such a sharp image with equivalent colour depth and sharpness

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Checkout XINTD X3 group buy thread and you will see some discussions in it. I have 3 such switches in my flashlight collection now. All 3 work well, but one is feeling a bit “funky”. Wish there is a V2.0 version of it.

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Can anyone enlighten me please, as to the problems people are having with the switch ?? Easy fix ?

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We shall not start a debate on it, it just a waste of time. Let the images speak for itself.

The cheapest and simplest way to achieve sharp images, is to shoot under large diffused lighting source(e.g sun with cloudy sky) and stable platform. Set camera to trigger by time (2s, 5s). Use white cardboard to reflector light into shadow area if needed.

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freeme wrote:
It is the person behind the camera that matters. :bigsmile:
People will never stop asking though. :-\

I have read that famous ken rockwell piece and i disagree, an amateur with a poor camera will do poorly, and with a good camera will do slightly better. A professional with a poor camera will do well and far better with a good camera. A person does as well as their skill level, if they have poor equipment their skill can’t fully shine, if they have poor skills there is nothing to shine, if they have the knack the limiting factor becomes the equipment and with good equipment they can do amazing things.

I noticed the pictures are composed very well, but when i saw the picture of the driver i knew for sure you were using a good camera, there is no way in hell i can get such a clear photo from my point and shoot, no matter how i arrange the lighting or lighting source, no matter what aperture or shutter i use, the camera just cannot take such a sharp image with equivalent colour depth and sharpness

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freeme wrote:
We shall not start a debate on it, it just a waste of time. Let the images speak for itself.

The cheapest and simplest way to achieve sharp images, is to shoot under large diffused lighting source(e.g sun with cloudy sky) and stable platform. Set camera to trigger by time (2s, 5s). Use white cardboard to reflector light into shadow area if needed.

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wight wrote:
freeme wrote:
It is the person behind the camera that matters. :bigsmile:
People will never stop asking though. :-\

I have read that famous ken rockwell piece and i disagree, an amateur with a poor camera will do poorly, and with a good camera will do slightly better. A professional with a poor camera will do well and far better with a good camera. A person does as well as their skill level, if they have poor equipment their skill can’t fully shine, if they have poor skills there is nothing to shine, if they have the knack the limiting factor becomes the equipment and with good equipment they can do amazing things.

I noticed the pictures are composed very well, but when i saw the picture of the driver i knew for sure you were using a good camera, there is no way in hell i can get such a clear photo from my point and shoot, no matter how i arrange the lighting or lighting source, no matter what aperture or shutter i use, the camera just cannot take such a sharp image with equivalent colour depth and sharpness


I agree, lets just trade cameras and call it a day, i’m sure you don’t mind since skill is all you need :bigsmile:

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17mm driver, you need a BLF17DD in that monster Big Smile

Not hot on the threaded pill…the solid shelf of the F13 means the heat goes straight to the body faster…this is why the back heats up so fast, but with that said, modding it is a booger because you have to reach down inside to solder and whatnot which is a pain

Still not sure about that reflector screwing in on top of the star with that big flat shelf on it…definitely a point for shorting…but if it is a big ol honkering aluminum reflector it just might wick the heat away, it will eventually saturate, even with that mass of copper wire wrapped around it.

Still…not a bad light and at least its a named after a girl…like a hurricane Big Smile

Throw us some beam shots next to a F13 Smile

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Are there any places that sells pre-assembled version of BLF17DD?

F13 integrate pill conducts heat easily, but too much heat is going to hand grip. I remembered that my battery got very warm, even tailcap got heat up. I prefer 65% of the heat to saturate at the head region, since the fins are there to cool down the flashlight.

My concept of wire wrapping is that I wanted to provide additional paths for heat to radiate out to the body. Reducing the chance of bottleneck effect, just like Aluminium wrap for P60 flashlights. Copper wire is easily available at my area and it only cost less than a dollar for the mod. :8)

I have sold all my F13s. I am not going to buy any more flashlights with Ultrafire name on it any more.

WarHawk-AVG wrote:
17mm driver, you need a BLF17DD in that monster Big Smile

Not hot on the threaded pill…the solid shelf of the F13 means the heat goes straight to the body faster…this is why the back heats up so fast, but with that said, modding it is a booger because you have to reach down inside to solder and whatnot which is a pain

Still not sure about that reflector screwing in on top of the star with that big flat shelf on it…definitely a point for shorting…but if it is a big ol honkering aluminum reflector it just might wick the heat away, it will eventually saturate, even with that mass of copper wire wrapped around it.

Still…not a bad light and at least its a named after a girl…like a hurricane Big Smile

Throw us some beam shots next to a F13 Smile

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freeme wrote:
Are there any places that sells pre-assembled version of BLF17DD?

F13 integrate pill conducts heat easily, but too much heat is going to hand grip. I remembered that my battery got very warm, even tailcap got heat up. I prefer 65% of the heat to saturate at the head region, since the fins are there to cool down the flashlight.

My concept of wire wrapping is that I wanted to provide additional paths for heat to radiate out to the body. Reducing the chance of bottleneck effect, just like Aluminium wrap for P60 flashlights. Copper wire is easily available at my area and it only cost less than a dollar for the mod. :8)

I have sold all my F13s. I am not going to buy any more flashlights with Ultrafire name on it any more.

WarHawk-AVG wrote:
17mm driver, you need a BLF17DD in that monster Big Smile

Not hot on the threaded pill…the solid shelf of the F13 means the heat goes straight to the body faster…this is why the back heats up so fast, but with that said, modding it is a booger because you have to reach down inside to solder and whatnot which is a pain

Still not sure about that reflector screwing in on top of the star with that big flat shelf on it…definitely a point for shorting…but if it is a big ol honkering aluminum reflector it just might wick the heat away, it will eventually saturate, even with that mass of copper wire wrapped around it.

Still…not a bad light and at least its a named after a girl…like a hurricane Big Smile

Throw us some beam shots next to a F13 Smile

Oh no..I completely understood why you wire wrapped the reflector…so much more thermal mass there to soak up the heat (It make ALOT of sense actually)

The aluminum is doing what it’s supposed to do…the reason you don’t feel the heat as much in the fins is the increased surface area is radiating the heat much better…but either way…to each his own

Still and excellent review and build man…kudos to you

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Add a new remark under Cons section.

No anti-roll body design. Roxane M6 fell off from the table(70cm height) when I turned around to grab the rest of the flashlights… :*

BUT it survived the impact!!! Not even a trace of damage. I am impressed now. :bigsmile: See if I am able to arrange for a giveaway.

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I followed the link to FastTech — that’s an XML T6 — is that right?
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