Mag-Lite 3rd Gen LED D-cell lights: 2D - 524, and 3D - 625 lumens

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Mag-Lite 3rd Gen LED D-cell lights: 2D - 524, and 3D - 625 lumens

Yep, The 3rd Gen D-size LED now use XML2 emitters.

The 2D is 524 lumens, 366m, 33573cd 6h30m-high, 20h-low, 69h-eco

The 3D is 625 lumens, 406m, 41200cd 16h-high, 77h-low, 117h-eco

Both feature electronic switches and programmable modes. The head is now shaped like the Mag-Charger (more conical, no ridges).

Brightguy and zbattery both have them. $45.90 (2D) $47.28 (3D) but no doubt others will get them in.

All I can say is wow! The Mini-Mag Pro has already moved to the XPG2, so I was kinda expecting the D’s to get an update, but not quite so soon. Kudo’s to MI for continuing the update the products and stay competitive – though they need to update their site.

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Wait-what!? Shocked

When did this happen? How is the heatsinking? Is it…is it still American made? For $45?

If so, then that UF-T90 clone from focalprice just got bumped off the top of my acquisition list.

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Programmable modes also:

General – press once for full power, twice for low power, 3 times for eco (super low)
Outdoor – press once for full power, twice for low power, 3 times for strobe (fast flashing)
Law Enforcement – press once for momentary on, twice for full power, 3 times for eco (super low)
Tactical – press once for momentary on, twice for full power, 3 times for strobe (fast flashing)

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Staying competitive or playing catch-up? 

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El Camino wrote:
Yep, The 3rd Gen D-size LED now use XML2 emitters.

The 2D is 524 lumens, 366m, 33573cd 6h30m-high, 20h-low, 69h-eco

The 3D is 625 lumens, 406m, 41200cd 16h-high, 77h-low, 117h-eco

Both feature electronic switches and programmable modes. The head is now shaped like the Mag-Charger (more conical, no ridges).

Brightguy and zbattery both have them. $45.90 (2D) $47.28 (3D) but no doubt others will get them in.

All I can say is wow! The Mini-Mag Pro has already moved to the XML2, so I was kinda expecting the D’s to get an update, but not quite so soon. Kudo’s to MI for continuing the update the products and stay competitive – though they need to update their site.

I checked both sites and saw NO info on the XM-L2. Do you have a link please?

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I hope the hell these are finally heat sinked properly and they got rid of that stupid cam focusing system. If not, its just another piece of garbage for the bin.

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I hope the hell these are finally heat sinked properly and they got rid of that stupid cam focusing system. If not, its just another piece of garbage for the bin.


[image pulled from brightguy.com]

Looks like its destined for the bin then XD

I’m sure that Maglite would not put out a high power torch like that without properly sinking the emitter. Let’s wait and see a teardown.

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The head is shaped differently and the switch button is different. Be interesting to see one torn apart, but not for $45+ dollars.

 

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For a minute there, I thought they hired OL full time to mod the lights for them. :bigsmile:

You know they will have done this right and it will be interesting to see how they drive an XM-L2 with just 2 D cells.

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Somebody buy one, tear it down and do photos. The suspense is killing me!Laughing

Ebay has them too, free shipping and about $46.

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Sorry, I’m new so I wasn’t sure if it was OK to post links. I figured when in doubt err on the side of caution.

Here you go:

http://www.zbattery.com/Flashlights/Maglite-2-D-Cell-LED-3rd-Generation-Flashlight

http://www.zbattery.com/Flashlights/Maglite-3-D-Cell-LED-3rd-Generation-Flashlights

http://www.brightguy.com/Maglite/Maglite+LED+3rd+GEN+D-cell+Flashlights#...

No doubt other retailers will start carrying them and the price will come down.

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Mag who? Never heard of them!!! :Sp

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$52 shipping to Canada!

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Gj wrote:

Staying competitive or playing catch-up? 

Playing catch up. I have a rechargeable led mag that isnt nearly as bright as my XinTD C8. They should have put the new MTG2 in it instead, IMO.

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Hmmmm.
$46 for a Maglite 3rd Gen that you know you’re still going to tear apart and modify anyway?

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$52 shipping to Canada!

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Staying competitive or playing catch-up? 

Playing catch up. I have a rechargeable led mag that isnt nearly as bright as my XinTD C8. They should have put the new MTG2 in it instead, IMO.

Running an MT-G2 off 2 alkaline D cells? Tongue Out Unworkable, probably would need ~10A from the cells after voltage sag to run 3A to the emitter. And add ~$20 to the cost.

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6 1/2 HRs on high for the 2D and 16 HRs on high for the 3D is amazing!!

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Very good news ! That mean we will see many outdated models for very cheap soon but its a bad news for the modders and their pricey maglite mods.

I bet they get the inspiration from the forums, like Thrunite did with the TN32.

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Who’d thought that Mag would come out with a high-amp boost driver?

Good on them. They’ll definitely have a programmed step-down to achieve those ANSI runtimes but they should be regulated, unlike the Chinese big, bright, ‘n cheap XM-L/2 lights inundating store shelves.

These almost definitely share internals with the LED MagCharger, so heatsinking AND focusing should be much improved over the traditional model. If so, they have a smaller focal adjustment range with no dark spots. Just a little Cree Rainbow Wink

Edit: By “regulated,” I mean this (courtesy Robin Wang at LED-Resource.com):

Mag uses switched-mode buck and buck-boost drivers with programmed stepdowns, whereas the cheap, bright (XM-L/2), 3-cell torches locally available to consumers today simply use unregulated drivers with PWM modes (no voltage conversion—just MCUs driving FETs, resistors, and capacitors).

The beauty is the design grants the user a period of full output (mostly) regardless of battery condition upon turning on while leaving enough juice for extended runtime. It’s also kind of a product of the ANSI specification game but I can hardly blame them.

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TheGloriousTachikoma wrote:

I’m sure that Maglite would not put out a high power torch like that without properly sinking the emitter. Let’s wait and see a teardown.

Guess you didn’t see the first magled lights taken apart? Everything was in the bulbpost and the ‘heatsink’, about 8mm diameter,0.5mm thick. They compensated for heat by reducing current (to about 50%) which happened in a matter of two minutes.

Those runtimes I’m SURE are untegulated times.

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Not even info on Mag’s home page about 3rd gen. These will still be bought by many with the new “higher lumen” ratings. Maglites after all are an American tradition so to speak.

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I saw these yesterday at REI, $50. Kinda expensive for a light i would just tear apart, maybe they will sell just the replacement switch assembly

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Well, I just bought a Black 3D ST33016  and a Black 2D ST23016  for $77 shipping included, (about $38.50 each). In a few days I will do a review of them. I'm looking forward to it. If they are bright, it would be a good option to do my file work on them and be able to keep the overall price down. All I plan on is adding a glass lens.

I hope they are good.

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Just like Apple and the Apple Watch, MagLite took their time, but when they updated, (it looks like) they did it right.

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Yourrid wrote:
Gj wrote:

Staying competitive or playing catch-up? 

Playing catch up. I have a rechargeable led mag that isnt nearly as bright as my XinTD C8. They should have put the new MTG2 in it instead, IMO.


Not really a like for like comparison though is it. The Mag runs on cheap, everywhere available D cells. the C8 does not. And I suspect the Mag will wipe the floor with the C8 in terms of run time.
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eebowler wrote:
TheGloriousTachikoma wrote:

I’m sure that Maglite would not put out a high power torch like that without properly sinking the emitter. Let’s wait and see a teardown.

Guess you didn’t see the first magled lights taken apart? Everything was in the bulbpost and the ‘heatsink’, about 8mm diameter,0.5mm thick. They compensated for heat by reducing current (to about 50%) which happened in a matter of two minutes.

Those runtimes I’m SURE are untegulated times.


Regulated doesn’t mean flat regulation. Look at the charts posted earlier.
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Well, I just bought a Black 3D ST33016  and a Black 2D ST23016  for $77 shipping included, (about $38.50 each). In a few days I will do a review of them. I’m looking forward to it. If they are bright, it would be a good option to do my file work on them and be able to keep the overall price down. All I plan on is adding a glass lens.

I hope they are good.

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O-L wrote:

. . . In a few days I will do a review of them.

Yeah!  Looking forward to them.  Thanks for taking another one of many for the team.  Smile

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does anyone know if the driver for the 2 cell and the 3 cell lights are the same? that would make using an 18650 or similar battery easy.

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