Got a replacement Asher Knives Nomad (my original had a touch of blade play that I couldn’t easily resolve—so they sent me a new one!). Such a terrific EDC. It looks like a Bugout clone, but I actually like it better. And it’s a nicer design for me than the Sanrenmu Land 910.
Carrying this BokerXL auto for a few days . Thought it would be too big for the pocket , but I really don’t notice any difference from the one I carry for work . This big blade is pretty awesome.
This knife is really nice, and the clip is great as well.
It seems a little small after carrying the Oblivion, but I like it a lot.
Because I like the Oblivion more than the Passage, and I’ve been carrying the Oblivion for a while now, I’m going to EDC the Believer.
By the way, I had to adjust the pivot screw of both of my new knives.
Now they open up much better. alt=:" />
One of these days one of us is going to convince you to make the step to the Dark Side and invest in a ZT or Benchmade You are getting so close….
You now you want a ZT 562.
Yessss…. Feel the pull of CF and Titanium with a CPM 20CV blade…. Only ever having to sharpen it one time every two or 3 years and using a strop every 6 months at the most. Feel the pull….
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Anyhow It is good to see you are still trying different blades and seeing what you like.
Do the super steels really hold up that well? I just cut a few boxes or bags open at work every day and have to strop my S30V (or equivalent) knives every week or two, and sharpen like once a month.
Do the super steels really hold up that well? I just cut a few boxes or bags open at work every day and have to strop my S30V (or equivalent) knives every week or two, and sharpen like once a month.
To me that doesn’t sound that unusual. A super steal will probably extend your sharpening frequency but then again it will take you considerable longer to sharpen.
From my experience sharpening something like M390 quickly, needs diamond or CBN abrasives and that can be rather expensive. Otherwise it will take longer to sharpen.
Do the super steels really hold up that well? I just cut a few boxes or bags open at work every day and have to strop my S30V (or equivalent) knives every week or two, and sharpen like once a month.
To me that doesn’t sound that unusual. A super steal will probably extend your sharpening frequency but then again it will take you considerable longer to sharpen.
From my experience sharpening something like M390 quickly, needs diamond or CBN abrasives and that can be rather expensive. Otherwise it will take longer to sharpen.
Considering I think my sharpening skill is lacking too… this answer saved me money, thank you!
Considering I think my sharpening skill is lacking too… this answer saved me money, thank you!
As moderator007 said, it’s quite an investment to get to the point where you can properly sharpen high end steel. Originally, I wanted to get an M390 blade for the “allure” of it. Some people do and just admire it, never honing/sharpening. Collectible shelf-queens to then sell at a later point. But if you’re going to use it, you need the sharpening skill & time to do it. S35VN is about as far as I’m going, I think. While it’s tougher to sharpen than 8Cr13Mov, it’s easier than D2.
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strayz wrote:
One of these days one of us is going to convince you to make the step to the Dark Side and invest in a ZT or Benchmade You are getting so close….
You now you want a ZT 562.
Yessss…. Feel the pull of CF and Titanium with a CPM 20CV blade…. Only ever having to sharpen it one time every two or 3 years and using a strop every 6 months at the most. Feel the pull…. . . . Anyhow It is good to see you are still trying different blades and seeing what you like.
There's a Kershaw knife with a D2 blade that I have my eye on.
It's over $50 right now on eBay, but if the price drops somewhat I think I'll get it.
Do the super steels really hold up that well? I just cut a few boxes or bags open at work every day and have to strop my S30V (or equivalent) knives every week or two, and sharpen like once a month.
For cutting boxes, nothing is better than a scandi grind. Still impressive that you only need to sharpen it once a month, might be once a week with a cheap steel.
Very nice isti, and it’s coming on sale for $39.09 in four days!
Looks very comfortable in hand.
The flipping action and the overall ergonomics are very good. The edges of handle need some light sanding if you have sensitive hands.
I bought mine for $46 shipped when these were selling for $150 – $170 on eBay.
Very nice isti, and it’s coming on sale for $39.09 in four days!
Looks very comfortable in hand.
The flipping action and the overall ergonomics are very good. The edges of handle need some light sanding if you have sensitive hands.
I bought mine for $46 shipped when these were selling for $150 – $170 on eBay.
Wow, that’s quite a difference! I guess those folks who shun AliExpress just don’t know about the actual Asian selling prices… I really like the “burlap” Micarta scales.
Do the super steels really hold up that well? I just cut a few boxes or bags open at work every day and have to strop my S30V (or equivalent) knives every week or two, and sharpen like once a month.
For cutting boxes, nothing is better than a scandi grind. Still impressive that you only need to sharpen it once a month, might be once a week with a cheap steel.
Oh not actually cutting cardboard very often, usually just tape to open them haha
I cut boxes ( stuff i have ordered ) both tape and the cardboard, i do so to get smaller sizes of cardboard which i then put inside a big cardboard box, this way i dont have to throw out cardboard more than once every 1-2 years.
Actually my bedside “table” are one such cardboard box full of cardboard.
Not dong this from a environmental / recycling standpoint, it is CUZ i am a lazy old guy.
And for cutting the cardboard i do use a hobby knife, most often all my pocket knife are used for is pealing a apple.
That is quite a beauty. I think I like it more than the Sebenza 21. And certainly at a far more benign price! Do you think it’s really M390 steel?
The seller claims that it’s real M390. I asked him before buying it although I knew I would order it anyway.
It came with a wicked sharp edge out of the box.
Have any established knife reviewers done any write-ups or articles on these? How does the action, heat treat, etc. compare to the genuine article?
I really wish there was some reliable way of knowing the true steel and quality of these clones. However, I believe the legally grey nature of the existence of these makes it difficult. Many reputable reviewers avoid these clones to prevent the knife community from giving them criticism for even possessing or purchasing a clone. Even if one could verify the steel is M390 with titanium scales, reproducing the same purchase can also be a challenge as it seems these Chinese sellers switch names or distributors when they start getting into trouble.
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Current Collection:
Inova X5 | Maratac Titanium Inspection AAAx2 XPL-G2 swapped to Nichia 219B sw45K | Wowtac A2S NW | Thrunite Ti3 NW | FW3 CuTi XPL-HI 5000K + 18350 tube | Olight I1R EOS (de-anodized) | Convoy S2+ 7135x8 T6-3B | HDS Rotary Nichia 219B 4000K | Nitecore Cu TINI | Fraz Labs Tiny Tank 18350 | TnC Aluminum Deep Red
Have any established knife reviewers done any write-ups or articles on these? How does the action, heat treat, etc. compare to the genuine article?
I really wish there was some reliable way of knowing the true steel and quality of these clones. However, I believe the legally grey nature of the existence of these makes it difficult. Many reputable reviewers avoid these clones to prevent the knife community from giving them criticism for even possessing or purchasing a clone. Even if one could verify the steel is M390 with titanium scales, reproducing the same purchase can also be a challenge as it seems these Chinese sellers switch names or distributors when they start getting into trouble.
Yeah that is one of the more blatant Copies. Reminds me of the Praetorian (sp) that was copied to the ends of the earth a few years back.
Even if it had verifiable good steel I will support the made in the USA maker. Don’t read I am getting all righteous on this subject as I have had a few go arounds pages back. Realte (again not sure if I spelled that correct or not) is one of the makers coming out of China that is a first rate knife. I just don’t own any.
From my sample size of one. M390 is kinda a pain to get sharp, and that could be just me as sometimes things just sharpen easy and other times I fight with it. Blade shape owes a lot to that as well. Right now I have been carrying S30V and S35V in my rotation a lot with one knife having Elmax.
Super steels. Yeah they are worth it in my opinion. Someone asked above and I can say that after stropping a few knives on Monday, I thought about when I last put one to a stone. Most are at least a year and half. Yes I do rotate 3-5 knives a week depending on mood, what season it is and what I am wearing for the office. Some days it is a ZT562 and others it is a Benchmade 940. Although I looked at the BM 9400 auto, and it may follow me home in the future.
This knife is really nice, and the clip is great as well.
It seems a little small after carrying the Oblivion, but I like it a lot.
Because I like the Oblivion more than the Passage, and I’ve been carrying the Oblivion for a while now, I’m going to EDC the Believer.
By the way, I had to adjust the pivot screw of both of my new knives.
Now they open up much better. alt=:" />
One of these days one of us is going to convince you to make the step to the Dark Side and invest in a ZT or Benchmade You are getting so close….
You now you want a ZT 562.
Yessss…. Feel the pull of CF and Titanium with a CPM 20CV blade…. Only ever having to sharpen it one time every two or 3 years and using a strop every 6 months at the most. Feel the pull….
.
.
.
Anyhow It is good to see you are still trying different blades and seeing what you like.
Yes, agree with Strayz…RC…ZT, Benchmade or Spyderco and maybe throw in a Reate.
Here are some of my favorite EDC.
The Benchmade Neil Blackwood Skirmish has a Ti handle and S30V steel blade.
The only thing I wish it had was a frame lock stop. The Ti frame lock stretches out and the blade drops open with the less resistance detent ball.
Love the hefty of the knife.
Got a replacement Asher Knives Nomad (my original had a touch of blade play that I couldn’t easily resolve—so they sent me a new one!). Such a terrific EDC. It looks like a Bugout clone, but I actually like it better. And it’s a nicer design for me than the Sanrenmu Land 910.
FreeTiger FT11 with 14C28N blade and matching color alu backspacer:
isti
Thanks! I always wanted to try a FreeTiger with purple G10 and this new model with 14C28N blade gave me the final push.
isti
I received two knives today.
I only EDC one knife at a time, and one of the knives probably will not be EDC'd anytime soon.
...
First up is the Kershaw Passage 1361.
This knife is a budget all-steel version of the Kershaw Oblivion 3860.
The Passage has a better clip than the Oblivion, but the assisted-opening mechanism works better in the Oblivion.
EDIT:
Also, you have to press pretty hard on the flipper to open up the Passage.
Here's where I praise the Oblivion:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1645749#comment-1645749
Next up is the Kershaw Believer 2070.
This knife is really nice, and the clip is great as well.
It seems a little small after carrying the Oblivion, but I like it a lot.
Because I like the Oblivion more than the Passage, and I've been carrying the Oblivion for a while now, I'm going to EDC the Believer.
By the way, I had to adjust the pivot screw of both of my new knives.
Now they open up much better.
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Carrying this BokerXL auto for a few days . Thought it would be too big for the pocket , but I really don’t notice any difference from the one I carry for work . This big blade is pretty awesome.
One of these days one of us is going to convince you to make the step to the Dark Side and invest in a ZT or Benchmade You are getting so close….
You now you want a ZT 562.
Yessss…. Feel the pull of CF and Titanium with a CPM 20CV blade…. Only ever having to sharpen it one time every two or 3 years and using a strop every 6 months at the most. Feel the pull….
.
.
.
Anyhow It is good to see you are still trying different blades and seeing what you like.
Do the super steels really hold up that well? I just cut a few boxes or bags open at work every day and have to strop my S30V (or equivalent) knives every week or two, and sharpen like once a month.
To me that doesn’t sound that unusual. A super steal will probably extend your sharpening frequency but then again it will take you considerable longer to sharpen.
From my experience sharpening something like M390 quickly, needs diamond or CBN abrasives and that can be rather expensive. Otherwise it will take longer to sharpen.
V11R and V10R Current Mod
Considering I think my sharpening skill is lacking too… this answer saved me money, thank you!
TwoSun TS227 micarta with a pretty impressive blade:
isti
There's a Kershaw knife with a D2 blade that I have my eye on.
It's over $50 right now on eBay, but if the price drops somewhat I think I'll get it.
How to Post Images on BLF // Many knives for sale (USA only)
How to move a thread // raccoon's light reviews
For cutting boxes, nothing is better than a scandi grind. Still impressive that you only need to sharpen it once a month, might be once a week with a cheap steel.
Very nice isti, and it’s coming on sale for $39.09 in four days!
Looks very comfortable in hand.
The flipping action and the overall ergonomics are very good. The edges of handle need some light sanding if you have sensitive hands.
I bought mine for $46 shipped when these were selling for $150 – $170 on eBay.
isti
Oh not actually cutting cardboard very often, usually just tape to open them haha
I cut boxes ( stuff i have ordered ) both tape and the cardboard, i do so to get smaller sizes of cardboard which i then put inside a big cardboard box, this way i dont have to throw out cardboard more than once every 1-2 years.
Actually my bedside “table” are one such cardboard box full of cardboard.
Not dong this from a environmental / recycling standpoint, it is CUZ i am a lazy old guy.
And for cutting the cardboard i do use a hobby knife, most often all my pocket knife are used for is pealing a apple.
BM940Ti by Beketen:
isti
The seller claims that it’s real M390. I asked him before buying it although I knew I would order it anyway.
It came with a wicked sharp edge out of the box.
isti
Have any established knife reviewers done any write-ups or articles on these? How does the action, heat treat, etc. compare to the genuine article?
I really wish there was some reliable way of knowing the true steel and quality of these clones. However, I believe the legally grey nature of the existence of these makes it difficult. Many reputable reviewers avoid these clones to prevent the knife community from giving them criticism for even possessing or purchasing a clone. Even if one could verify the steel is M390 with titanium scales, reproducing the same purchase can also be a challenge as it seems these Chinese sellers switch names or distributors when they start getting into trouble.
Current Collection:
Inova X5 | Maratac Titanium Inspection AAAx2 XPL-G2 swapped to Nichia 219B sw45K | Wowtac A2S NW | Thrunite Ti3 NW | FW3 CuTi XPL-HI 5000K + 18350 tube | Olight I1R EOS (de-anodized) | Convoy S2+ 7135x8 T6-3B | HDS Rotary Nichia 219B 4000K | Nitecore Cu TINI | Fraz Labs Tiny Tank 18350 | TnC Aluminum Deep Red
Yeah that is one of the more blatant Copies. Reminds me of the Praetorian (sp) that was copied to the ends of the earth a few years back.
Even if it had verifiable good steel I will support the made in the USA maker. Don’t read I am getting all righteous on this subject as I have had a few go arounds pages back. Realte (again not sure if I spelled that correct or not) is one of the makers coming out of China that is a first rate knife. I just don’t own any.
From my sample size of one. M390 is kinda a pain to get sharp, and that could be just me as sometimes things just sharpen easy and other times I fight with it. Blade shape owes a lot to that as well. Right now I have been carrying S30V and S35V in my rotation a lot with one knife having Elmax.
Super steels. Yeah they are worth it in my opinion. Someone asked above and I can say that after stropping a few knives on Monday, I thought about when I last put one to a stone. Most are at least a year and half. Yes I do rotate 3-5 knives a week depending on mood, what season it is and what I am wearing for the office. Some days it is a ZT562 and others it is a Benchmade 940. Although I looked at the BM 9400 auto, and it may follow me home in the future.
Yes, agree with Strayz…RC…ZT, Benchmade or Spyderco and maybe throw in a Reate.
Here are some of my favorite EDC.
It is the Spyderco design from the late Bob Lum “Chinese Folder” with aluminium handle in Z189 super steel.
Would prefer Ti handle…you like?
I have a Navy K603, which is a budget version of the top right Benchmade.
I'm sure the Benchmade is nicer, however.
How to Post Images on BLF // Many knives for sale (USA only)
How to move a thread // raccoon's light reviews
The Benchmade Neil Blackwood Skirmish has a Ti handle and S30V steel blade.
The only thing I wish it had was a frame lock stop. The Ti frame lock stretches out and the blade drops open with the less resistance detent ball.
Love the hefty of the knife.
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