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Joat
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Ebay seller finesthair

I bought a light from this link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000LM-UltraFire-C8-CREE-XM-L2-T6-LED-18650-Flashlight-Bright-Torch-Lamp-5-Modes-/281438399656?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item4187092ca8

I knew the quality wouldn’t be the same as the TangsFire C8 I got from T-mart but it’s not even in the ball park. The listing claimed it would have a XM-L2 led it looks like it might be a XPE. The reflector is smaller and plastic. The rest of the fit and finish is a giant step down as well.

I don’t think this light is worth the $7 I paid.

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If its significantly not as described file a PayPal claim, thank you for sharing shady sellers

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That’s why i always wait until i receive items from Ebay before i leave Feedback for the sellers unless i know them and are reliable.

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does it looks like this?

sorry for the bad pic, its all i had left in my computer

anyway short story about this; i won bid on this C8 from ebay as well one year ago, for around $5 USD i guess we didnt lost too much, and yes its an xpe emmiter not xml as stated, it very throwy but not bright at all, my guess the true brightness probably around 150 lumens only as i compared with my other ANSI rated lights, overall its a total fake ultarfire C8, open dispute and get your money back if you will

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It reminds me of one $5.00 C8 that I once bought , the only thing that was somewhat acceptable was the anodizing. I had replaced the reflector, lens, copper driver pill, and led.. The switch was pressed fit and didnt come out.

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DenBarrettSAR wrote:
That’s why i always wait until i receive items from Ebay before i leave Feedback for the sellers unless i know them and are reliable.

Woah, wait a minute. You mean to say there are times you give a positive feedback before receiving your item?

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> give a positive feedback before receiving your item?

Lots of people apparently do. Lately I’ve gotten email requests for five-star feedback as soon as I pay for something, even before they ship whatever it is. It’s gaming the system, can’t trust feedback.

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I never give a positive feedback without the actual item on hand although some sellers request to do so!

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After a few messages they are now offering to refund me after I give them positive feedback.

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Joat wrote:
After a few messages they are now offering to refund me after I give them positive feedback.

Uhhh… no! What were they thinking? You should file a dispute and just get your money back. By the way, eBay also has a policy against selling counterfeit items. According to their policy, you are supposed to notify them (eBay) and not return the item to the seller or re-sell the item yourself.

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my9221 wrote:
I never give a positive feedback without the actual item on hand although some sellers request to do so!

+1

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Do not support this brand.

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I think my next step is to open a paypal dispute.

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hank wrote:
> give a positive feedback before receiving your item?

Lots of people apparently do. Lately I’ve gotten email requests for five-star feedback as soon as I pay for something, even before they ship whatever it is. It’s gaming the system, can’t trust feedback.


I never leave feedback for sellers until feedback is left (and obviously I have the item), I have many transactions in which no feedback was ever left despite the deal being all fine. If I sell, I leave feedback as soon as I have payment as their part is done and its ALL I should (IMO) be gauging with feedback as a seller. At one point I had this conversation with eBay and their response was that feedback was part of the process, and the seller wanting to wait until I had provided them with feedback so that they could change their planned feedback based on feedback I left was normal and appropriate, the feedback a buyer left for them should form part of the seller feedback. So essentially trading on positive feedback. This does not promote honest feedback IMO.

Essentially you could argue that anyone with 100 or more deals, and 100% feedback, has been trading feedback and therefore untrustworthy. There is apparently a tendency to leave negative feedback just because you can, and sellers must take that into consideration when deciding when to leave feedback for buyers. I would assume there genuinely are times where a decent seller, doing everything correctly receives negative feedback because the buyer has buyers remorse and blames the seller for their own lack of thinking it through. But essentially, once you pay, you have done all you can to make the deal smooth. The rest is in the sellers domain, and the postage.

Positive feedback is truly useless for the most part. It certainly has been so flawed for so long that you can not rely on it, even with seemingly good dealers. Negative feedback on the other hand is at least still a warning to consider.