Review: D.Q.G Tiny 26650 II (NW) 2nd generation

D.Q.G. Tiny 26650 II nw
provided by Ric from cnqualitygoods.com for review

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Specifications:

Brand/Model

D.Q.G. Tiny

LED

3xXPG2 NW

Working voltage

~4.2V?

Battery

26650 / 18650

Switch

Side switch

Modes

4

Blinkies

no

Mode changing

Side switch

Anodizing

HAIII

Tailstand

Yes

Lock-out

Yes

Momentary On

No

Lens

Coated

Reflector

no, TIR optics

Waterproof

IPX8

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Cnqualitygoods.com

(provided for review)

Thank you!!

What you get:

I was very pleased to see the Tiny 26650 II arrive in a tin case.. not only for the looks, but also for the extra protection during transportation, also due to the gray padding inside the case.
Unfortunately there was no Manual nor any other documents inside the package. Nor were there any spare O-rings or holster.
The 18650 sleeve has rubber
rings on both sides, which helps again rattling! a great idea!!!!

Handling

I really like the size of this light.. It`s definitely one of my favorite sizes. And with a 26650 battery installed, it gives the right feel to it.The switch is located at the same position as the first generation DQG tiny 26650, to which I will compare it to in this review. The switch has some GITD sticker on the inside.
I took the light in my work bag, and on my way home, when it was dark I tried to take it out of my bag and turn it on... but I had some trouble finding the switch by feel. So I had to actually look at it, but after doing it again and again, it was easier to find, but still not as easy as I would have liked.

Knurling

Compared to the gen1 Tiny it has less aggressive knurling. All knurling is done well. Only at the knurled ring near the head I could find a small imperfection.. but only noticeable up close..

Generation 1

Generation 2


Anodizing, threads and prints

The gray color they used for this gen2 Tiny is much more appealing that the plain black of the first generation...I think. Anodizing is again done well all over the light. Only in the grooves of the head there are still machining marks visible. But anodizing is not missing in any spot.



There are no prints on the main parts of the body, but the name of the light is printed on the bottom of the light, just like the 1st generation. Unfortunately there is no distinction between the 2 versions.. At least I would have liked to see a Mk II sign or whatnot.

Threads

The heads of both versions are NOT interchangeable, the threads are different, wider spaced.
Fortunately they came well lubed.
The gen1 is built in 3 main pieces, while the gen2 is built in 2 pieces.. without a tailcap. The tail and body are machined of 1 piece of aluminum.
Click for larger size


The threads are anodized, and therefore the Tiny can be locked out very easily.. its possible to lock out in less than a quarter turn.

Lens, bezel, star and reflector

The tiny 26650 doesn`t use a reflector, but TIR optics. The lens is coated on in and outside.

The bezel is made of stainless steel for extra protection and a touch of bling!
Im glad they continued this from gen 1.
The 2
nd gen Tiny also includes a Glow In The Dark (GITD) O-ring under the lens, so its easier to locate when you just turned of the light. That is probably the only reason for using one, because its rather weak. It will dim fast, and at least you can`t see it anymore after a few minutes.
It also includes GITD switch button...
The switch on my Gen1 failed on me... so I had to open the light..... and added some extra lube.. but this could fail again I believe.. the Gen 2 has a better switch seems like.

The MCPCB in Gen 2 is copper whereas gen 1 had an aluminum MCPCB

Dimensions and weight:

Length: 99 mm
Diameter head: 38
mm
Diameter body: 31
mm


Weight empty:
97 grams
Weight loaded: 186
grams (26650 cell)

The DQG tiny 26650 consists of 2 parts..
The Head and the body.

The head weighs 55 grams
The bodytube weighs 42 grams
Very light.

UI and modes

The Tiny has 4 modes... with 3 main modes, and 1 hidden Turbo

    1. Low
    2. Medium

    3. High

    4. (TURBO)

Low, Medium and High are the main mode group;
turbo mode can be acc
essed from any main mode with a double click. But is not accessible from OFF.

Turn on: Long press 1-sec

Turn off: Long press 1-sec

The light will always turn on in Low... so No Mode Memory once the light is turned off.
No momentary On.

Side note: this UI is upgraded from its previous version...
DQG 1 had ON: with 1 click
DQG 2 has ON: Long press

The time for turn off has reduced from about 2 seconds long press to a 1 second long press

Blinkies

  • none!

PWM

  • Low mode: High
  • Medium mode: unnoticeable
  • High mode: unnoticeable
  • High mode: unnoticeable

Lock out

Yes, and its very easy... Unscrew the body from the head with only less than a quarter turn.. and the light is locked out.. Very nice!

Performance

Ceiling bounce:

Measured with 1x 26650 king kong.
Ceiling bounce in lux (ceiling at about 1.5 meters from meter)
Numbers are not comparable with other user`s numbers, these are only comparable with my own numbers, measured with other flashlights.

DQG II Low Medium High Turbo
Lux # 0 16 65 178
% 0% 9% 36% 100%

Lux ceiling bounce DQGII
Level 1: 0 lux
Level 2: 16 lux
Level 3: 65 lux
Level 4: 178 lux

which equals in %
Level 1: 0%
Level 2: 9%
Level 3: 36%
Level 4: 100%

For Lumens reference:

Ceiling bounce my #
Lumens mfg specs
Acebeam K40M 158 lux (4th mode) 1150 lumens
Sunwayman T45C 137 lux (max) 980 lumens
Sunwayman F40A 130 lux (max) 880 lumens
DQG II 178 lux (max) 1250 lumens

Looking at the above table, we can comfortably suggest that the DQG Tiny II produces at least 1200lumens out the front in Turbo mode.

Current Draw:

Measured @ tailcap with the body taken off, and just the battery touching the positive spring on the head. And the probes touching the negative of battery and negative on driver side.

Measured@ emitters with the positive wire unsoldered, and connected to my DMM.
(7.79V
olts. Measured at the Emitters)

Low

Medium

High

Turbo

Amp @ tailcap

0.01A

0.29A

1.17A

5.5A

Amp @
emitters

0.00A

0.12A

0.44A

1.58A

Turbo at 5.5A dropped rapidly, to below 5A..
But measuring the output in lux, it didnt drop as fast as the amperage, see my graphs.

Runtime

High.. (not using Turbo mode) (unfortunately I used 100% as max point on High in my excel file, but its actually 65% of real full output in Turbo mode)

Runtime is 210 minutes, which equals to 3 hours and 30 minutes

Click on the following pictures to full size.. Pictures were taken at 5 minutes interval,then put into an excel sheet to produce the above graph.


Medium

Runtime is 14 hours and 20 minutes
No output sag noticeable.. the slight decline is actually only 1 lux less

Click on the following pictures to full size.. Pictures were taken at 10 minutes interval,then put into an excel sheet to produce the above graph.

Comparison Gen1 and Gen2 output in Turbo:

Gen 2 has about 10-15% more output at start.
And while Gen 1 has a step-down-timer of 30 seconds,
Gen 2 has a step-down-timer of 3 minutes

THROW:


No, these are not designed to "throw".. but they still put out a lot of light, so that will make up a bit for its throw.

    • DQG Tiny 26650 NW gen I at 5 meters 6075 lux

    • DQG Tiny 26650 NW gen II at 5 meters 6875 lux

Beam shots:


Taken with a Fujifilm F200EXR on Manual setting ISO400 f3 ½ second

  • DQG II NW

Control shot:

Low:

Medium:

High;

Turbo:

Compared to:

  • DQG 1 NW

Mouse out: DQG1, Mouse over: DQG 2

DQG always on the left

Medium:

High:

Turbo:

Compared to:

  • Convoy S2+ 2.1A version

max mode;
Mouse over DQG 2 turbo

  • XinTD x3 with 26650 battery (definitely more of a thrower)
  • Acebeam K40M

Camera dialed up to faster shutter speed...

  • Mouse out: Acebeam K40M
  • Mouse over: D.Q.G. 2

Size comparison


1. eneloop AA
2. ITP A3 titanium
3. 18650 unprotected
4. D.Q.G. Tiny 26650 II
5. XinTd X3
6. Acebeam K40M


Conclusion

PROS

    • Pocket rocket... one that fits in your pocket ;) small, and turbo of 1200+ lumens
    • Runtime is 3 hours and 30 minutes on High.
    • Tint selection: they sell CW and NW
    • Mechanical lock-out... with less than a quarter turn
    • Stainless steel bezel
    • Copper star
    • Upgraded UI
    • Coated lens/glass

CONS

    • Body is pretty thin
    • Knurling could be a bit more aggressive, but for some this is a PRO
    • Driver is glued down. the retaining ring is impossible to move
    • No manuals included

Recommended?

YES!!!! I would choose this one definitely over gen1.
Better UI, copper star, coated lens, gray, longer turbo mode, better switch.


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Excellent and easy to understand review.

Great pics.

thanks,

thank chibim, now i want one

thanks for the review, great pictures and explanations!
I love the flashlight! I see it has improved in many aspects but in the UI would any change operation. You notes which miss a lot of grip for the new knurling respect to gen1? a version with xp-l would be very interesting….

The grip has been reduced because of the knurling.. I have to say it feels nicer to the hand, but its definitely less grippy.

Depends on what you are used to/want..... the 2nd gen feels good, while the 1st gen feels a little rough.

Great review. I already have two gen 1 lights and wasn’t that bothered about the improvements made, but now i have read this i may have to get one. I just love them.

Great review, nice details ….now to get one :slight_smile:

Thats a tough call.. The changes are definitely making this light stand out, compared to its older sibling...

But if you already have 2... that would make it more difficult to decide to get this one..

you could always try to sell one of your 1st gen, and buy this as an addition.

now i want one :frowning:

Great job on the review. I sure love mine and so glad I got my hands on this one.

Is anyone try to use nichia 219b for this light?

Really appreciate it!

I had liked this since they first introduced it, but didn’t purchase the Gen 1 variant. When they came out with Gen 2 I knew I had to get one. I really like it, it’s quite small and has exceptional run time capabilites from it’s big fat 26650 cell. I have a King Kong 4000mAh cell in mine.

Thank you very much for the detailed review. Nice to see those run time charts, I hadn’t realized it was regulated so well! :slight_smile:

Thanks for the review!

I got this light about 3 weeks ago. I like it a lot and I am glad to see they made some improvements as you mentioned, better UI, longer turbo mode, better switch.

It is a very powerful light and I like how the optics diffuse the light. It lights up a big area!

nice review,you made me want to buy one .

will it take 26700 battery?

Gen 1 will, but Gen 2 will not.

Thank you for the review. Amazing what we can buy these days isn´t it?

Did you test the NW or CW @ 1250 lumens?

And for the record, on a new King Kong 26650 4000mAh cell it does 1297 lumens.

I thought/think it is the complete opposite?

V1 had a lot of issues according to someone who sold these lights,driver, switch and anode problems

V2 seems to have resolved those issues and turns on/off quicker, 3 min. on turbo instead of 1 min.

Maybe you got a defective V2 Version??

Mine is NW, see title.

I can not test exact lumens.. but I compare them with ceiling bounce numbers of my other lights, which bring me to a conclusion it does over 1200.. and Dale just mentioned almost 1300 on his NW.. So I guess no e must be the same.