GearBest…First (and last) purchase from them.

Pictures? More details? What exactly is deficient?

My S2+ looks just like the one Octanacious received, see his photos at posts #107,111 and 117. Also my light came with an XML Not XML2.

bought 2. for me and my wife

ours is brass pill.
yipee!!

Hmm, Ordered mine a few weeks ago at 12.99 from GB.

appears to be of genuine convoy quality,

Brass pill, 4C tint, EXCELLENT fit and finish!

Not sure how it’s gonna go from here tho.

Received my red S2+ ordered from Gearbest for $12.99.

Sadly the quality is not on par with the other Convoy lights I own, or the nicer S2+ most people have reported:
-Received the wrong tint (ordered NW)
-Cheaply made aluminium pill and both retaining rings.
-Rusted washer used as switch retaining ring.
-Emitter is off-center, because the centering ring being used is not for this reflector.
-Only draws 2.2A, but all 8 chips are present.
-Driver spring is the worst I’ve seen, looks like the spring from a pen (or worse).

Pros:
-Inexpensive!
-H.A. is well done.
-Switch is a small orange Omtem, switch assembly feels good and makes this S2+ much more usable.

It looks like GB is shipping out mixed batches of convoy S2+ with two grades of quality.

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Despite all the above I think this S2+ is still a decent light for the price. For those (myself included) who mod every light they get there is no major issues, I actually prefer aluminium pill than brass. I plan to make this into a Triple nichia 219C 90+ CRI when it’s released.

But if you’re buying this flashlight to use it as-is, I think you should contact GB first to make sure you receive the better version.

Wow, never seen such a thin junk driver spring. :Sp
What is the thing that looks like a rusted washer? ….It’s a rusted washer isn’t it?

How is the the quality of the actual body seem? Reflector? Maybe they are buying convoy shells and adding all the internals. ~ edit~ 100% fake. Pics post #200

Halo… wrote:

Wow, never seen such a thin junk driver spring. :Sp
What is the thing that looks like a rusted washer? ….It’s a rusted washer isn’t it?

How is the the quality of the actual body seem? Reflector? Maybe they are buying convoy shells and adding all the internals.

It feels good overall, a bit lighter than my old S2, H.A. is well done with no imperfections, but laser engraving is weak. Threads are smooth even without any lube. Reflector is ok but I have spare S2+ reflectors ordered directly from Simon and they have stronger OP finish, not a big deal.

I cannot describe how bad the spring is. I wonder how much did they save by producing this crap flimsy spring compared to the normal one, 0.02 RMB maybe?

Yeah that’s a rusted washer, it’s not even aluminium but a common washer that just happen to fit in there. “If it fits it works” -chinse proverb

It’s cost-saving efforts like this which motivate me to buy pretty much everything either direct from the OEM (Simon / Convoy in this case) or from RMM (who makes sure to only get the good stuff). I’d much rather pay a little extra and know I’m getting the right version of a product.

However, I do still try to keep spare parts around, like good springs, in case a stock item is sub-par or in case I break something. Like, I tried using a relatively weak driver spring on a FET triple and it melted in half, shorted, and unsoldered itself. Oops. Fortunately I got it turned off and taken apart quickly enough to avoid damaging anything except the spring. Spare parts to the rescue!

The reflector in the “good S2+” has a stronger OP finish, and comes with a GITD vs black o-ring in the cheap version.

Unless someone has one of each quality of S2+ we can’t know for sure if the light is entirely different or just the guts. There is a chance that these S2+ are not even from convoy!!

Simon said there were counterfeit Convoys out there. I just never expected Gearbeast to have them. And now we got the fake XPL lights out there too.

Forget what I said about all 4 from GB being genuine. The last 2 were fakes, more info when I get home.

BTW mine came with a generic cheap box with the date “03/06/15” (d/m/y) on it, and that’s not the order date. So that might mean something?

I modded mine by just reflowing a dedomed V5 1A on the stock mcpcb and a sanded down xp->xm centering ring, and I have to say it can throw for the size! Can’t wait to see what it can do with an LD-2, rear spring mod, XP-L HI on noctigon and AR glass.

will34 wrote:

BTW mine came with a generic cheap box with the date “03/06/15” (d/m/y) on it, and that’s not the order date. So that might mean something?

I modded mine by just reflowing a dedomed V5 1A on the stock mcpcb and a sanded down xp->xm centering ring, and I have to say it can throw for the size! Can’t wait to see what it can do with an LD-2, rear spring mod, XP-L HI on noctigon and AR glass.

Like this one?

Jubeldum wrote:

will34 wrote:

BTW mine came with a generic cheap box with the date “03/06/15” (d/m/y) on it, and that’s not the order date. So that might mean something?

I modded mine by just reflowing a dedomed V5 1A on the stock mcpcb and a sanded down xp->xm centering ring, and I have to say it can throw for the size! Can’t wait to see what it can do with an LD-2, rear spring mod, XP-L HI on noctigon and AR glass.

Like this one?

I just got mine from GearB. It came in the same kind of box pictured…if that helps.

“I just got mine from GearB. It came in the same kind of box pictured…if that helps.”
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That doesn’t sound good. – Convoy sends theirs out in an apx 150mmx75mmx25mm white box, with “Convoy” printed on top in silver letters. – This was from Gearbest, and ordered 5/15/15.

I’m very satisfied, but mine is genuine… Had I got one like you guys I would be Pissed!

I currently have a Convoy L4 coming from Gearbest, and it’s killing me waiting to see what I’m gonna get:-(

Thanks,
-Chuck

Jubeldum wrote:

will34 wrote:

BTW mine came with a generic cheap box with the date “03/06/15” (d/m/y) on it, and that’s not the order date. So that might mean something?

I modded mine by just reflowing a dedomed V5 1A on the stock mcpcb and a sanded down xp->xm centering ring, and I have to say it can throw for the size! Can’t wait to see what it can do with an LD-2, rear spring mod, XP-L HI on noctigon and AR glass.

Like this one?

Yeah exactly that one! with the same date and all! I was wrong on that detail it’s actually yy/mm/dd.

Here’s an GENUINE CONVOY S2+ box. Notice the date is earlier: 22/05/15 vs 03/06/15 in the fakes. Since the stickers have the same format I can only assume it’s most likely the stocking date from GB. Convoy wouldn’t put a sticker right on top of their logo. I already have an ongoing paypal dispute with gearbest, and this one will follow right up.

The two real ones were ordered from Gearbest on May 11, the fake ones were ordered from Gearbest on June 13.
Real packaging on left, fake on right.

Real switch on left is stainless, fake on right is aluminum.

Tailcap, real on left, fake on right.

Head, real on left, fake on right.

Bodies look about identical but the writing on the real one(left) is a little smaller.

Weight of the real ones.


Weight of the fake ones.


Weight of the real heads.


Weight of the fake heads.


Weight of the real tail caps.


Weight of the fake tail caps.


Reflectors look identical. Leds are centered better on the real ones.

Thanks for that illuminating visual comparison!

It looks like nearly everything changed except perhaps the reflector. Even the shape of the host and the way it was knurled and anodized changed.

Hello,

Every one, I’m really sorry if we bring you any trouble about the convoy s2+,

if any one think yours are defective, please send the order number, pictures of the packaging and flashlight to our csgearbest in BLF to get a full refund to your GB wallet or resend.

please kindly allow us some time to checking our stocking items, making the future sent products in right condition.

GearBest.com

Simon, thank you for commenting on these fakes and taking time to contact GB.

Simon…

Go Kick their A$$!

Nothing I hate worse than a Fake!

Thanks,
-Chuck

I don’t want to go too off topic here but I ordered an Eagleeye F30 from banggood and instead of the nice black Eagleeye box it came in a crappy white box just like one some of you guys have received. Makes you think. Never thought much of it at the time.

Marc.

Now shows out of stock. I hope they are still have stock on hand to resend and changed it to out of stock so they can do a inventory and weed out the fakes.
Convoy S2+ 1000LM Cree XM L2 T6 – 4C 3 / 5 Modes LED Flashlight Torch ( 1 × 18650 Battery ) – NATURAL WHITE LIGHT

Yeah! – Out of Stock!

Looks like Gearbest is doing the right thing!

Thanks Gearbest!
-Chuck

Oh boy, didn't follow this thread recently. Now I feel really bad recommending the $12.99 GB special to a few friends .

Karen (GB) - please keep in mind "defective" usually means not functioning, while a fake light may function but it's bought under deceptive pretense, delivering something much cheaper in quality and not as advertised, in both pictures and listed specifications.

Please keep it out-of-stock until this gets straightened out, thanks!

I always recommended Simon's store, and will do so even more now.

As long as GearBest makes it right, I will continue to buy things from them.

Oh Dear. I ordered a Convoy S2+ Red from http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1750069 on 01 June.
It was a couple of dollars cheaper than from Simon’s store & offered the same modifications. The website looked exactly the same as his store & the name on the dealer is Mr. Arden MAO.
This item is now no longer available !
I haven’t received it yet so time will tell what I get – a genuine or fake.

Which one of these Convoy Tube lights has the smooth and deeper reflector with a brass pill? Is it the S2? Old version or is their a new version?