Cree XHP70 up to 4022 Lumens and XHP50 up to 2546 lumens - Multi-die leds.

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Cree XHP70 up to 4022 Lumens and XHP50 up to 2546 lumens - Multi-die leds.
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XLamp XHP50 LEDsXLamp XHP70 LEDs
XHP50 LEDXHP70 LED
Size (mm x mm)5 x 57 x 7
Maximum light outputUp to 2546 lm @ 19 WUp to 4022 lm @ 32 W

4 die leds, but 4022 lumens? Imagine if it's pushed to higher amperage.

http://www.cree.com/XHP?elq=5556dd484026485692f795293609a700&elqCampaign...

 

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Oh good; they added them to the website.

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What’s the voltage requirement on these?

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XHP70

Size (mm x mm)7.0 x 7.0
Product options 6-V, 12-V, high-CRI
Maximum drive current (A)4.8 (6-V), 2.4 (12-V)
Maximum power (W)32
Light outputUp to 4022 lm @ 32 W
Typical forward voltage (V) - white5.8 @ 2100 mA (6-V), 11.6 @ 1050 mA (12-V)
Viewing angle (degrees)120
Binning85°C, ANSI White, 2-, 3- & 5-Step EasyWhite®
Thermal resistance (°C/W)0.9
Reflow-solderableYes – JEDEC J-STD-020C-compatible
RoHS and REACH-compliantYes

 

 

XHP50

Size (mm x mm)5.0 x 5.0
Product options 6-V, 12-V, high-CRI
Maximum drive current (A)3 (6-V), 1.5 (12-V)
Maximum power (W)19
Light outputUp to 2546 lm @ 19 W
Typical forward voltage (V) - white5.7 @ 1400 mA (6-V), 11.5 @ 700 mA (12-V)
Viewing angle (degrees)120
Binning85°C, ANSI White, 2-, 3- & 5-Step EasyWhite®
Thermal resistance (°C/W)1.2
Reflow-solderableYes – JEDEC J-STD-020C-compatible
RoHS and REACH-compliantYes

 

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And only $20 at Mouser??

*edit hmm, thats a 1500 lumen one though
http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cree-Inc/XHP70A-01-0000-0D0BN20E1/?qs...

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I cant find them on Cutters website. $20.00 in the US. That probably equates to $30.00 here.

 

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they are a higher voltage series, but should work with MT-G2 light drivers. these would make possibly great flooder light mods.

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Now we just need our BLF driver gurus to come out with a 17mm boost driver so we can run one of these (or an MTG2) on a single cell. Silly

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CPF has a thread on it and Eagletac has a light out already with the XHP50 in it. Limited edition, which means they got samples from Cree before anyone else.

5x5 footprint and 7x7 footprint. Even with 4 dies, a 5x5 footprint should make a light that could be? a fair thrower and replace XM-L2. 7x7 would replace MT-G2.

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I want some of these.

Especially the 12V version of XHP70 in 5000K, 80+ CRI, 3-step in N2 bin. Or the 5000K, 90+ CRI, 3-step in K2... Or the....

*drool....

None of these emitters will replace the XM-L2. Too high voltage, not enough throw for most lights. Time will tell how they compare to an MT-G2.

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I would guesssssss..... that the dome will help eliminate the normal black cross shadow, that you would see in a 4 die setup and the dies look like they might be tighter to each other, but that might just be the photos. I would think in a bigger deep reflector, that has the bottom third/half in an OP finish and the rest SMO, it might just throw pretty good in the 5x5 format.

I asked Cree to let me have some samples, but I won't hold my breath.Sealed I don't expect an answer since I don't have any pull like the flashlight makers do.Frown

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4x XPG2’s squished up together?

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4x XPG2's squished up together?

No, they did more than just vary on existing designs, i.e. there's no bond wires in sight (on the limited images at least)

I like the pricing of the XHP50, $6.31 at Mouser.

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might be glad i’ve held off on upgrading that lowe’s lux pro.

so all that’s left is to figure out how to drive the XHP70?

i’m not averse to a driverless DD option, if you have a suggestion.

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wdkingery wrote:
...so all that's left is to figure out how to drive the XHP70?

..and wait for a board that it fits on, 7x7mm is between the XM-L and MT-G footprint.

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I wonder what if we drive the XHP70 LED at 9 A like we do to the MT-G2 J) how much lumens we can get ?

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I wonder what if we drive the XHP70 LED at 9 A like we do to the MT-G2 J) how much lumens we can get ?

If it behaves well up to 9A, and on a copper board, my rough extrapolation leads to about 6500 lumen.

Hey, there's 5000K 90CRI versions in the datasheets of the XHP50/70 ! Smile

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Hey, there's 5000K 90CRI versions in the datasheets of the XHP50/70 ! Smile

That is like,, old news... 

Just kidding.. Its awesome. These emitters will probably be used in many lights next year. I already have some plans.

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djozz wrote:

Hey, there's 5000K 90CRI versions in the datasheets of the XHP50/70 ! Smile

That is like,, old news... 

Just kidding.. Its awesome. These emitters will probably be used in many lights next year. I already have some plans.

2.25 hours old news, I see it now.  note to self: read RaceR's posts more carefully Smile

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" At its maximum current, the XHP70 LED delivers twice the light output of the industry’s brightest single-die LED, the XLamp MK-R LED, at a similar lumens per watt and without increasing the package footprint"

Lie nr1:mk-r isn't single die led

Lie nr2:even if mk-r were single-die,luminus cbt-140 is still brighter

Typical CREE marketing.

Anyway,it looks like xhp50 is 4x XP-G2 and xhp70 is 4x XM-L2 die.

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Hopefully the beam pattern isn’t too bad. Smile

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Hopefully the new single die LED 5×5 , 7×7 will coming out soon Wink

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So, the XHP50 6 Volt will go right on an XM-L star, what will the XHP70 fit?

and where the hell do I get some?Tongue Out

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just give me some XHP70 Big Smile and i will do what ever it needs DIRECT TO PILL

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Old-Lumens wrote:

So, the XHP50 6 Volt will go right on an XM-L star, what will the XHP70 fit?

It looks like the 6 Volt version will work on an XM-L star.  But there are tiny differences. On top of that (as you probably know) XHP50 and XHP70 LED`s can also be configured to12 volt depending on their connection/star. 

 

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and where the hell do I get some?Tongue Out

Mouser for those who are lucky enough to have cheap shipping and are happy with their current selection. Im waiting for Hank to stock these. Preferably with some really high CRI.

Question is, why weren't these in stock yesterday along with suitable Noctigons??! Getting impatient here..  Silly

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So, the XHP50 6 Volt will go right on an XM-L star, what will the XHP70 fit?

It looks like the 6 Volt version will work on an XM-L star.  But there are tiny differences. On top of that (as you probably know) XHP50 and XHP70 LED`s can also be configured to12 volt depending on their connection/star. Ideally we should have a 6V and 12V version to both the XHP50 and XHP70 since those will will have the largest thermal path compared to the more flexible mcpcb that can do both.

 

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and where the hell do I get some?Tongue Out

Mouser for those who are lucky enough to have cheap shipping and are happy with their current selection. Im waiting for Hank to stock these. Preferably with some really high CRI.

Question is, why weren’t these in stock yesterday along with suitable Noctigons??! Getting impatient here..  Silly


The XHP70 on Mouser says it is 1590lm and price for one is $16.85 plus shipping. I think it would be wise to wait for a better deal.

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The XHP70 on Mouser says it is 1590lm and price for one is $16.85 plus shipping. I think it would be wise to wait for a better deal.

1590lm @ 1050mA. The emitter (in 12V configuration, which is what its binned at) is (officially) capable of 2400mA. So 1590lm is far from what its capable off. That deal will give you more output compared to an MT-G2.

The emitter Mouser have in stock is not the top bin though. Problem with Mouser is that they are not very specific on tints.

These are floody emitters. Give me NW, high CRI and then top bin for that combination. Smile  please...

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DavidEF wrote:

The XHP70 on Mouser says it is 1590lm and price for one is $16.85 plus shipping. I think it would be wise to wait for a better deal.

1590lm @ 1050mA. The emitter (in 12V configuration, which is what its binned at) is (officially) capable of 2400mA. So 1590lm is far from what its capable off. That deal will give you more output compared to an MT-G2.

The emitter Mouser have in stock is not the top bin though. Problem with Mouser is that they are not very specific on tints.

These are floody emitters. Give me NW, high CRI and then top bin for that combination. Smile  please…


Okay, had to dig a little. The one at Mouser is apparently a N2 bin. That’s the third highest bin, so not bad. They say it’s binned at 85C, so at that temp, and with 2.4A going to it, it is rated at 3040lm max with 12.73 Vf. I guess it’s okay for what it is, but still pricey! Wink

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Okay for what it is? Like in the same way a base model Porsche Cayman is okay for what it is? Smile

That N2 binned XHP70 from Mouser is officially capable of a 1000 more lumen compared to the top binned MT-G2 which cost about the same. Or if you can get it in top bin and want CW, 1500 lumen more compared to an MT-G2. That is getting closer to twice the output of an MT-G2. For pretty much the same price! And if these are capable of the same levels over "overdriving"... They are gonna be BRIGHT.

And more importantly, XHP70 is capable of higher CRI numbers compared to the MT-G2.  And its got the potential to be more versatile in terms of voltage/wiring/drivers.

In terms of output the XHP70 is a large step up from an MT-G2. The XPH50 is more on level with the MT-G2 in terms of ouput, but price on that seems much lower. Lots of potential in these emitters. Not only on a performance level, but also when looking at bang for the buck or CRI.

MT-G2`s and MK-R`s might be a thing of the past now. But before we have a big party, we need to see the emitters in action, evaluate beam quality in various reflectors, how far they throw, real life tint, overdriving capabilites when direct mounted on copper, etc...

Either way, seems like quite exiting emitters compared to what has been released in the past 1,5 years.

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What will be interesting is seeing who will carry them. Also, if there will be enough interest for anyone to do a Copper mcpcb for them. I doubt that happening right away. No one has any 6V in stock and the 12V is a different base footprint. I bet it's months before I get anything, because it's going to have to be 6V and 5700K range, before I bother. 

Hell, they don't even have the binning documents up yet, on their website.

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