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No worries guys! Those ridiculous 3.000 lumens were just a typo. Instead, Mateminco was able to source an 11.000 (eeeeleven-thooouuusand!) lumens SST-40. Big Smile

So, I like this UI very much. When temperature reaches 55°C it steps up to 11.000 lumens. Wink

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M4D M4X wrote:

I was told 10A - so probably it's 3000 LED lumen?

better host (heatwise) than the FT03 for sure

and the FT04 is a new Haikelight cooperation 

 

I like HaikeLite's hosts for these are quite hefty. But at 10A the bonding wires of the SST-40 would burn. Djozz's sample died at 9.5A, koef3's sample at 9.4A.

Anything above 7.4A is considered to have a significant impact on its life expectancy, at least for the N4 flux bin.

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Extra zero by mistake. Give them a few days at least to get the info sorted out.

It seems the FT04 is basically the same size head and emitter as the FT03, but with 3 × 18650 instead of 1 × 26650. So output and throw should be about the same. You could have double the battery capacity which means double the run times.

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i like the design of the Haikelite over the Astrolux to be honest.
Yeah and no way a SST40 will produce 3000 Lm

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which bin is used in the FT03? 

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Sorry, I’m not too familiar with Luminus bins.

Here is Djozz’s test on an average bin. This is not the highest bin and it’s also a bare LED on a power supply. Once inside a flashlight you get losses (maybe around 25%) that take that 2500 lumen down quite a bit.

I definitely would not imagine a bin change adding 600 lumen (from 2400 to 3000). Bottom line is that it’s a small led (2mm by 2mm die same as XM-L2 and XPL) and it’s output is limited. I’m curious to see if it’s output is higher than the FT03.

Remember that the FT03 was pushing the led pretty hard with high drain cells. People were concerned a high drain might burn it up. The FT04 has an even stronger battery setup. I think the smart battery to use is 3 high capacity cells like Samsung 35E as opposed to the stronger 30Q.

It’s still early days, though. We don’t know everything that has changed between the FT03 and FT04.

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These are 3000 HaikeliteLumens. Easily doable with this LED.

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Yokiamy wrote:
i like the design of the Haikelite over the Astrolux to be honest. Yeah and no way a SST40 will produce 3000 Lm

I for sure dont, astrolux has their own design which is fine, now suddenly it looks like a HL light but with astrolux logo? and claims 3000 lumens is also not realistic … this is not good…

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As M4D M4X said “the FT04 is a new Haikelight cooperation”

And i believe Astrolux is a Banggood brand that have/had products made by Manker, Mateminco and now Haikelight. So Astrolux changing designs is nothing new!
The 3000 lm is just the typical unrealistic bull**** Big Smile

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I would argue that the FT04 is worse for batteries you can only use 18650s the FT03 you can use 3 different cells 18650s, 21700, 26650s,. Sure 3 18650s has more capacity but its probably not needed using the SST40 if it was upgraded to the XHP50.2 it would be ideal.

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No, it’s not using the same LED.

It’s using the SST-40 P2 LED found in the Amutorch thrower from zeroair’s review.

It’s probably going to be doing 2800 lumens at startup, so about 2500 lumens OTF.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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From the pics, it looks like 3P for battery… So I’m not sure how that makes it more “stable” other than slower voltage drain.

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bidas wrote:
As M4D M4X said “the FT04 is a new Haikelight cooperation”

And i believe Astrolux is a Banggood brand that have/had products made by Manker, Mateminco and now Haikelight. So Astrolux changing designs is nothing new!


From what I’ve gathered over the years:

Mateminco is an actual manufacturer. They do machining, assembly, etc…

Astrolux and Manker have had some of their lights machined (maybe assembled) by Mateminco in the past. I’m not sure who makes the Haikelites. They probably had some machined/assembled by Mateminco as well.

Astrolux, Manker and Haikelite are like the “designers”. They come up with the idea and design, driver type, what led to use, etc…

I think some companies can have the lights machined my Mateminco then assemble the different components themselves. Whatever is cheaper based on the resources they have.

There is a lot of variation and it’s pretty confusing, but it’s why we see such similarities between brands.

Also keep in mind that “Mateminco” is the name the manufacturer uses for themselves. I don’t think we know the actual manufacturers real company name. I’ve never heard it mentioned.

Anyway, I wish Astrolux would consult with BLF to see whats popular and desirable instead of consult with Haikelite. I don’t think Haikelite knows what people want.

Just my opinion on all the above. I wanted to get it off my chest.

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Looking at the SST-40 datasheet, the bin structure and minimum flux lumen at 5A is so:

N2 1394
N3 1501
N4 1608
N5 1715
P2 1822

So in theory we should see an average of 200 more lumen, maybe 300 more at most when pushed to 9A-10A over the N4 used in the FT03. So hopefully we will see 2,000-2,100 lumen assuming reflector/lens, etc… efficiency is the same as the FT03.

The problem here is that they say the FT04 does not use a FET driver. They are saying it’s constant current. If true, no way will see 9A-10A. Maybe like 6A-7A at most. Who knows, maybe it will use a FET driver. It’s still early.

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Also wondering why the UI has gone from Narsil to, well, garbage – I know obviously if it’s not ATtiny and FET then you’ve gotta make do with what you can, but….

The P2 emitter is the only interesting thing about this, for me. But others may find it better Smile

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Ok, now I want Astrolux to release a FT03 version with this super SST-40 LED, but with NW light! Evil

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It’s just a slightly higher bin. It’s not a difference you will see with your eyes. It will only be a difference that can be measured. No big whoop as far as I’m concerned.

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P2 is only in 6500K, so those of us on the NW bandwagon are left behind Sad

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JasonWW wrote:
Also keep in mind that “Mateminco” is the name the manufacturer uses for themselves. I don’t think we know the actual manufacturers real company name.

Short name seems to be Tong Ming:

Dongguan Tongming Photoelectric Technology Co., LTD
Or
Dongguan Tongming Lighting Technology Co., Limited on alibaba.
And
DONG GUAN TONG MING Photoelectric technology Co., LTD

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Tally-ho wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
Also keep in mind that “Mateminco” is the name the manufacturer uses for themselves. I don’t think we know the actual manufacturers real company name.

Dongguan Tongming Photoelectric Technology Co., LTD
Or
Dongguan Tongming Lighting Technology Co., Limited on alibaba.

Okay, thanks. I would of bet it was in Shenzhen, but I was off by 50 miles. Big Smile

Tongming only 50-100 employees. A bit smaller than I imagined.

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Hello my dear friends!

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aand: (Item name = my Link Wink )

Item Code Coupon price Exired Time
EXTRA 30% OFF For Hot Sale Flashlights BGSM30% 30% OFF 2019/7/15
Astrolux FT03 SST40-W Promo 29,99 2019/7/15
Astrolux FT03 XHP50.2 Promo 35,69 2019/7/15
Astrolux MF02 NW ASUU 78 2019/7/15
BLF A6 BG7A6 14,99 2019/7/15
Astrolux C8 BGSC8 15,99 2019/7/15
Astrolux S43S BG7S43S 26,99 2019/7/15
Astrolux MF04 NW BGSPS04 139.99 2019/7/15
Astrolux MF04 CW BGSPS04 139.99 2019/7/15
Astrolux MF04S BGMF04SL 155 2019/7/15
Convoy S2 Host BG7S2 4,99 2019/7/15
VOLLSION H2E BGH2E 6,09 2019/7/15
Convoy M3 Promo 31,99 2019/7/15
Convoy S2+ BGLA2 9,99 2019/7/15
Convoy S2+ BG7S2M 10,99 2019/7/15
Gray Convoy S2+ BGGS2 11,99 2019/7/15
Convoy New L6 BGNL6 53,99 2019/7/15
2.5A Convoy S9 BG25S9 14,99 2019/7/15
Haikelite SC26 BGS112 29,99 2019/7/15
Haikelite MT09R BGMT09R 109,99 2019/7/15
Haikelite MT40 BGMT40 48,99 2019/7/15
Haikelite Q30 BGQ30 56,99 2019/7/15
Rofis TC1 BGOIS 11,99 2019/7/15
JETBEAM RRT01 BGRRT 53,99 2019/7/15
Nitecore T Series BG7TS 6,89 2019/7/15
NITECORE UM2 BGUM2 12,99 2019/7/15
Nitecore P30 BGNP30 39,99 2019/7/15
NITECORE TUP BG1387 47,9 2019/7/15
Nitecore Tini SS BG7TSS 21,95 2019/7/15
Nitecore SC4 BGSC4 37,95 2019/7/15
Fireflies E01 SST40W BGFFE01 29,9 2019/7/15
Lumintop GT Mini BGLGT 29 2019/7/15
Lumintop EDC05C Promo 31.99 2019/7/15
LUMINTOP FW3A Promo 36,99 2019/7/15
Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Promo 15,99 2019/7/15
Lumintop BLF GT Promo 188 2019/7/15

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Okay, so some notes – before I start, please don’t get me wrong; I appreciate everything you do for the community in helping us get great deals, this is just some feedback:

  • It’s frustrating that in the link via the image/s, quite a few things on that list can’t have the deal applied to them, due to already being Promo or on sale already – or the code just not working (ie. MF01S says “Coupon is only used in special collection list and valid on over the specific value.”)
  • “Extra” 30% off implies that it’s an additional 30% off whatever price they’re currently advertising – so if it’s a $100 light at 35% off already, I’d generally expect that to mean another 30% off, so it’d either be $35 (65% total) or $45.5 (100 down to 65, then 30% of the $65 taken off). I guess this comes down to nuances in language, though.

Again – please don’t take this as criticism against you, just observations Smile

Edit:: Ah, just saw you posted the other details!

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Thank you Martin! Just grabbed a Nitecore P18 for just € 66,41 incl. shipping and insurance. Thumbs Up Beer

Payment was done via "EWORLDHOME LTD." and not by Banggood. Looks a bit odd but I guess there's no need to worry.

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Astrolux MF01S 18x SST20 15000LM – $80.99

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Can it be that shipping costs have extremely increased lately? EUR 4,13 for standard shipping of two Golisi S43 batteries? Where applicable, priority direct mail (air transit) is still cheaper than standard shipping with 4-5 Euro, i.e. $ 5-6. Shocked

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

Thank you Martin! Just grabbed a Nitecore P18 for just € 66,41 incl. shipping and insurance. Thumbs Up Beer

Payment was done via "EWORLDHOME LTD." and not by Banggood. Looks a bit odd but I guess there's no need to worry.

 

if you used my link please PM me the ordernumber 

seems it did not work for me 

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Thanks.
This would be a good time to grab a Rofis R1 or R2, though I’m hesitant to order anything else from banggood, since they still haven’t shipped my Lumintop EDC05C that I ordered 5-24-19, even though people who ordered a month later already have their lights.

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LightObsession wrote:
Thanks. This would be a good time to grab a Rofis R1 or R2, though I’m hesitant to order anything else from banggood, since they still haven’t shipped my Lumintop EDC05C that I ordered 5-24-19, even though people who ordered a month later already have their lights.

I also ordered an EDC05C May 24 and it is still processing.

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