New: Noctigon Meteor M43 ; in production New color added: Tan

1214 posts / 0 new
Last post
DB Custom
DB Custom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 01/13/2013 - 22:28
Posts: 20733
Location: Heart of Texas

No wonder Booom is mentioned…

Serp
Serp's picture
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 01/14/2014 - 11:29
Posts: 626
Location: Ukraine

As far as I understood from the discussion at fonarevka the microcontroller monitors all of this and will not let them explode. But of course it is better to four identical Smile

LinusHofmann
LinusHofmann's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 4 months ago
Joined: 09/28/2013 - 08:27
Posts: 974
Location: Switzerland
Serp wrote:
As far as I understood from the discussion at fonarevka the microcontroller monitors all of this and will not let them explode. But of course it is better to four identical Smile

Mixing cells with different capacities/chemistries/IR is a really bad idea. And seeing as the cells are in parallel there is no way for the light to monitor the health of each cell individually.

This is a very high power light, if you can’t feed it 4 matched high power cells to take advantage of it fully maybe hold off buying it until you can.

ToyKeeper
ToyKeeper's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 39 min ago
Joined: 01/12/2013 - 14:40
Posts: 10807
Location: (469219) 2016 HO3

Serp wrote:
you can use three ordinary battery and one high current HE2/HE4

… what?

It’s not a good idea to connect mismatched cells in parallel. The MCU doesn’t even matter; the cells will equalize each other simply by being connected, and if they’re mismatched the equalizing process can cause fires or explosions. I’ve actually made fire this way, when I accidentally connected a couple mismatched cells in a config similar to what the Meteor uses. It took only a fraction of a second.

Get one set of four identical cells, and make sure they always stay together and get charged together as if they were one.

keengeorge
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 04/26/2014 - 01:04
Posts: 1819
Location: Australia

DBCstm wrote:
No wonder Booom is mentioned...

LinusHofmann wrote:
Serp wrote:
As far as I understood from the discussion at fonarevka the microcontroller monitors all of this and will not let them explode. But of course it is better to four identical :)
Mixing cells with different capacities/chemistries/IR is a really bad idea. And seeing as the cells are in parallel there is no way for the light to monitor the health of each cell individually. This is a very high power light, if you can't feed it 4 matched high power cells to take advantage of it fully maybe hold off buying it until you can.

ToyKeeper wrote:
Serp wrote:
you can use three ordinary battery and one high current HE2/HE4
... what? It's not a good idea to connect mismatched cells in parallel. The MCU doesn't even matter; the cells will equalize each other simply by being connected, and if they're mismatched the equalizing process can cause fires or explosions. I've actually made fire this way, when I accidentally connected a couple mismatched cells in a config similar to what the Meteor uses. It took only a fraction of a second.

Get one set of four identical cells, and make sure they always stay together and get charged together as if they were one.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000......

ChibiM
ChibiM's picture
Offline
Last seen: 21 hours 28 min ago
Joined: 05/09/2011 - 10:25
Posts: 6775
Location: Holland

@ keen George: can you say that again, but then in words? My brain can't come past the second 0 from the back.

DB Custom
DB Custom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 01/13/2013 - 22:28
Posts: 20733
Location: Heart of Texas

Do all those zero’s symbolize emphatic agreement?

Can I May I please have a dollar for every one of those please? :bigsmile:

Kloepper Knife Works
Offline
Last seen: 5 years 7 months ago
Joined: 12/07/2014 - 21:28
Posts: 1405
Location: Lincoln, NE

I think he mistook the ability to run on, say, only 2 cells (which it CAN do) as something else.

keengeorge
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 04/26/2014 - 01:04
Posts: 1819
Location: Australia

ChibiM wrote:

@ keen George: can you say that again, but then in words? My brain can't come past the second 0 from the back.

+1 Quintillion  Smile Wink

keengeorge
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 04/26/2014 - 01:04
Posts: 1819
Location: Australia

DBCstm wrote:
Do all those zero's symbolize emphatic agreement?

Can I May I please have a dollar for every one of those please? :bigsmile:

Nah, my keyboard got stuck.  Wink

 

And yes Dale, you Can have a dollar for each zero if you so desire.  Smile Wink

keengeorge
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 04/26/2014 - 01:04
Posts: 1819
Location: Australia

Kloepper Knife Works wrote:
I think he mistook the ability to run on, say, only 2 cells (which it CAN do) as something else.

I think you are probably right, BUT what a Dangerous mistake....

Kloepper Knife Works
Offline
Last seen: 5 years 7 months ago
Joined: 12/07/2014 - 21:28
Posts: 1405
Location: Lincoln, NE
keengeorge wrote:

Kloepper Knife Works wrote:
I think he mistook the ability to run on, say, only 2 cells (which it CAN do) as something else.

I think you are probably right, BUT what a Dangerous mistake….

No kidding, it’d be an expensive lesson turning a Meteor into a meteor.

keengeorge wrote:

DBCstm wrote:
Do all those zero’s symbolize emphatic agreement?

Can I May I please have a dollar for every one of those please? :bigsmile:

Nah, my keyboard got stuck.  Wink

 

And yes Dale, you Can have a dollar for each zero if you so desire.  Smile Wink

I’ll refrain from speculation about the cause of your sticky keyboard. :bigsmile:

fatsteve0
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 03/11/2015 - 12:08
Posts: 10
Location: Perth, Australia

subscribed/ ordering when i get off work

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

Ok, just got it today. Wow, it’s small and heavy (relatively speaking)… And by the way thanks for linking the English manual some pages back because, out of the box I wasn’t sure how it operated.

So once I read the flow chart I figured it out… but don’t expect to get it without reading it… because you won’t. I like to think of it as a short cut based UI. I don’t necessarily love it, because you need to remember what 1 press, 2 presses, 3 presses do… but it isn’t difficult. UI 3, I don’t even think I’ll bother with, and so far UI 2 seems the one that suits me the best. Personally I’d like it if it was a press on and press off… with pressing and holding from on to get to the mode you want.

Unlike Dale, I probably won’t post anything until I’m finished with the review… but I plan on getting it in the mail in less than a week and a half… and getting my review up a few days after. It’s much brighter even in the daylight than my new Imalent DDT40.. but I won’t know how much until I see it in the dark. The light is extremely well built… The fit and finish is pretty flawless too.

DB Custom
DB Custom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 01/13/2013 - 22:28
Posts: 20733
Location: Heart of Texas

I hurried my look at it because I have one of my own coming and there were others wanting to get their hand on it. No real reason for me to do an in-depth review with extensive pics and video on the same light several others will also be looking at.

So I’ll give a better look with my own in XP-G2 S4 2B trim. Wink And maybe then in XP-L V6 3D. And maybe then in Nichia 219C. Wink

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

DBCstm wrote:
I hurried my look at it because I have one of my own coming and there were others wanting to get their hand on it. No real reason for me to do an in-depth review with extensive pics and video on the same light several others will also be looking at.

So I’ll give a better look with my own in XP-G2 S4 2B trim. Wink And maybe then in XP-L V6 3D. And maybe then in Nichia 219C. Wink

My review will probably be a bit briefer than I normally do, because of this. Can’t say I’ll drop the money on this one, unless I can get it for a decent price. That said, it’s tinier than any 4× 18650 light I own, and it’s also way brighter. By the way, what version of the light is this? Anyone know? Anyone know the specific optic used in it? I want to make sure my review is accurate.

DB Custom
DB Custom's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 01/13/2013 - 22:28
Posts: 20733
Location: Heart of Texas

The sample you’re playing with is the XP-G2 S2 1D de-domed with 10507 Carclo optics.

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

thanks!

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

Ok, I lied. I’ll upload runtime tests as I do them, even though I’ll speed them up a bit more and integrate them into my main review. I plan on also doing a runtime test on Turbo with some Sanyo UR18650FM 2600mah batteries… just for the hell of it… The light is recommended to use the LG high drain batteries… but the Sanyos didn’t do so bad. When I get both of them rendered I can watch the videos side by side to make an accurate assesment of how the batteries perform during this test

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

Ok here is turbo with the Sanyos.

keengeorge
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 04/26/2014 - 01:04
Posts: 1819
Location: Australia

Good Day mhanlen, Smile

 

Great & Useful videos.

 

Thank you Very Much,

George

Ray-o-light
Ray-o-light's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 09/15/2012 - 17:09
Posts: 415
Location: San Diego

Nothing like a run time test with a couple of different batts. Thanks for the real info!

Hey Babe, check out my new light!!

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

Having just watched the two videos side by side above… it seems the winner in runtime at least is the Sanyo by about 10 minutes. Plus is seems to have a much nicer taper off in brightness. I can’t say side by side which was brighter initially though.

jhalb
jhalb's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 8 months ago
Joined: 03/23/2015 - 21:24
Posts: 1350
Location: California

And I happen to have around a hundred of those Sanyos..... But there laptop pulls.Frown

I doubt they would last that long.

Thank you for the review!

mizjif
mizjif's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 09/23/2010 - 03:13
Posts: 1987
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada

Thanks for the videos!

My stone white xp-g2 s2 dedome just shipped. Now the real wait begins.

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

And another runtime test on High 1… Sorry I know these are boring, but I had some people mention I should have a slightly longer version to better appreciate the drop in brightness. They’ll be sped up considerably in the final review.

ryansoh3
ryansoh3's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 months 1 week ago
Joined: 08/04/2012 - 08:21
Posts: 3890
Location: US

Hey mhanlen, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the video footage sped up around 50x, not 5000x? Seems like one video second corresponds to just a little less than one real minute.

Thanks for the shots though, they provide a very nice runtime & brightness comparison.

BLF ≠ B-grade Flashlight Forum

 

mhanlen
mhanlen's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 11 months ago
Joined: 03/01/2013 - 11:42
Posts: 2601
Location: Eastern USA

ryansoh3 wrote:
Hey mhanlen, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the video footage sped up around 50x, not 5000x? Seems like one video second corresponds to just a little less than one real minute.

Thanks for the shots though, they provide a very nice runtime & brightness comparison.

In Final Cut Pro, in the speed, I put in 5000%. Is that not 5000x? Maybe it’s not interchangeable if 100% is full speed. Or would it translate to 500x?

maksoff
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 04/09/2015 - 10:24
Posts: 16
Location: Austria

mhanlen wrote:

In Final Cut Pro, in the speed, I put in 5000%. Is that not 5000x?

5000% / 100% = 50x
Hikelite
Offline
Last seen: 8 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 07/13/2011 - 16:18
Posts: 3888
Location: Honeyland

120minutes compressed into 2 minutes is 60 times faster.

Pages