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bdpf79 wrote:
Yeah, that goes pretty much in line with what I always though, brands like CH, TwoSun are legit, well known cloners that price their knives accordingly like Green Thorn (and probably Dicoria, Bear Claw, Lovocco, etc…) are legit, cheap $20/$30 clones claiming D2, S35VN, etc.. are BS (I still buy them, but not for the steel claimed). It’s common sense if you ask me, but now there is proof.

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CH, TwoSun, Dicoria, MG, and Lovocoo are very nice from solid sellers.

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AgentSteel, tu_army, PBWilson
Thank you! Smile
I could try to give the blade a stone washed finish but I’m not sure about that. Probably I’ll leave this one as it is.

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Isti, good job, it remembers me to the HX OUTDOORS ZD – 004 a bit.

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As a BENCHMADE loyal customer and EDCer seeing these Axis lock clones is a bit disturbing…

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oceanfreak wrote:

As a BENCHMADE loyal customer and EDCer seeing these Axis lock clones is a bit disturbing...

Not a fan of value for money?

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Isti, good job, it remembers me to the HX OUTDOORS ZD – 004 a bit.

Thanks! Smile
I wanted to keep as much as possible of the original blade width otherwise I would have gone for version “B”.

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oceanfreak wrote:
As a BENCHMADE loyal customer and EDCer seeing these Axis lock clones is a bit disturbing…

Why exactly? Because McHenery and Williams chose tp sell the licence exclusively to Benchmade?
Or because you’re one of the few who thinks IP laws are only really good for anyone else but IP lawyers?

Just imagine Mr Walker would have decided to patent his improved liner lock system?
Would there be a Sebenza or such a big modern knife market at all?
I heavily doubt it. Would there be much more Axis lock knives if it was same free to use as the liner lock? I doubt it as well.
On the other hand the locking system would see improvements over the years, just like the other free systems do.

It’s also funny how times are changing. Buck were the ones to invent (or at least popularize) the lockback with the model 110 Folding Hunter.
Nearly every big knife maker (and many small ones, too) copied it with only the name on it being different.
Did it hurt Buck knives? Another doubt.

So is it that someone spends a lot of cash for such a special locking system (which is not so special after all if you see the Arc lock or LionSteel’s Axis lookalike with a different system) only to see that you can get a similar knife for so much less? Oh yes, the quality is not the same, but is it 10x better?

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So is it that someone spends a lot of cash for such a special locking system (which is not so special after all if you see the Arc lock or LionSteel’s Axis lookalike with a different system) only to see that you can get a similar knife for so much less? Oh yes, the quality is not the same, but is it 10x better?

Come now, are you seriously applying logic here!? Big Smile

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So is it that someone spends a lot of cash for such a special locking system (which is not so special after all if you see the Arc lock or LionSteel’s Axis lookalike with a different system) only to see that you can get a similar knife for so much less? Oh yes, the quality is not the same, but is it 10x better?

Come now, are you seriously applying logic here!? Big Smile


Not really. I justify myself buying the TwoSun TS51 for $43 even though I didn’t need another knife with the fact that it’s a great herb cutter.

Probably it will be the same when I’ve bought by Sony XZ2 Compact as my S4 mini’s speaker is broken.
I mean, seriously, six years old phone and such a failure? Where’s the quality of the good ole days with the tin can telephone?

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Frankly I like US made tools and I like Benchmade. I wish to encourage more US manufacturing. Even Benchmade utilizes foreign manufactures for their HK line and other offshoots. This wasn’t a dig on value or innovation. Frankly, I would like to see some of their best clones up close and what they do better. What could you recommend? Do any clones have Bohler or Crucible steels?

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The new official French Army Knife (FAK? Silly ) has a licensed Benchmade © Axis Lock LOL

http://tb-outdoor.com/gb/8-cac-civil?SubmitCurrency=1&id_currency=4

And yes, it has a corkscrew! Evil

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I don’t mind a clone as much as a ‘fake’ They cross my line when they copy the name and the bug/butterfly.

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The new official French Army Knife (FAK? Silly ) has a licensed Benchmade © Axis Lock LOL

http://tb-outdoor.com/gb/8-cac-civil?SubmitCurrency=1&id_currency=4

And yes, it has a corkscrew! Evil


It’s not called FAK, the French wouldn’t dare to name it this way.

They called it Le C.A.C. and C.A.C. Civil (maybe while remembering Versailles and why people didn’t like the corners there)

I always though the Chinese Army Knife should be the CAK, but maybe the C.A.C. is made there, too.

And dammit, they really added a corcscrew, how C%L is that?

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Yeah the real name “C.A.C” is ugly to me! Facepalm

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AgentSteel wrote:
http://tb-outdoor.com/gb/8-cac-civil?SubmitCurrency=1&id_currency=4 And yes, it has a corkscrew! })

 

"French Army of Earth <img src= " /> even google translate does a better job on that one (i miss the rofl smiley)

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AgentSteel wrote:
The new official French Army Knife (FAK? Silly ) has a licensed Benchmade © Axis Lock LOL


Fack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLR56I-8hFE

Evil

Looks nice, though. I’d rather have a fixed-blade option, though, like a nice Ka-Bar. Big Smile

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AgentSteel wrote:
The new official French Army Knife (FAK? Silly ) has a licensed Benchmade © Axis Lock LOL


Fack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLR56I-8hFE

Evil

Looks nice, though. I’d rather have a fixed-blade option, though, like a nice Ka-Bar. Big Smile


Seriously? It’s the only chance to get a certified tactical AXIS lock knife with a corkscrew!
Imagine the SWAT team (or however they call it in French) sitting at the table with a glass of Bordeaux:

“Fantastique! Zis magnificent vine has ze zame colour as ze blood of deese gansteurs we just shot down.” Wink

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AgentSteel wrote:
http://tb-outdoor.com/gb/8-cac-civil?SubmitCurrency=1&id_currency=4 And yes, it has a corkscrew! Evil

 


French Army of Earth“  <img src= " /> even google translate does a better job on that one (i miss the rofl smiley)

You are right. It has to be Best French Army on Earth. Wink

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Seriously? It’s the only chance to get a certified tactical AXIS lock knife with a corkscrew!
Imagine the SWAT team (or however they call it in French) sitting at the table with a glass of Bordeaux:

“Fantastique! Zis magnificent vine has ze zame colour as ze blood of deese gansteurs we just shot down.” Wink


Sacre bleu!

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Sorry for you Italian guys, must be something serious so that they decide to block a whole country Facepalm Do you know any more details about it?

No, no more details…

This is the answer of GB at my (many) questions about it:
“Hi friend,
I just check it for you again.
There is no shipping method now to be shipped to Italy.
So sorry for this issue.
Best regards”

No more knives (and no more deals!!!) from Gearbest!! Sad
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Has anyone in the US purchased one of these French C.A.C knives? Who are the vendors and what are the shipping costs?

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Sorry for you Italian guys, must be something serious so that they decide to block a whole country Facepalm Do you know any more details about it?

No, no more details…

This is the answer of GB at my (many) questions about it:
“Hi friend,
I just check it for you again.
There is no shipping method now to be shipped to Italy.
So sorry for this issue.
Best regards”

No more knives (and no more deals!!!) from Gearbest!! Sad
Back to Fasttech and so on… !!!


I didn’t order from gearbest for a long time when shipping to Switzerland was around $7-$8.
Because of this I prefered fasttech but their shipping is quite slow.

Now shipping on gb is less than $1 again and the Sanrenmu Land 910 series is on sale so I ordered 4 of them, 910+ in black and green, 9103 and 9104

All go to a friend who’ll give some to his brother who always loses them in the woods or at the airport .

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oceanfreak wrote:
Has anyone in the US purchased one of these French C.A.C knives? Who are the vendors and what are the shipping costs?

(not a US guy here) Seen it on ebay (french seller) for ~100$. Not sure about custom duties?

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Just saw the new BROTHER F001 and F002 fixed blades on gearbest… both look good on paper : “440C”, micarta handle slabs, kydex sheath… for ~25$

Jake at CCE did a quick review on the F002… (yep, B0rk Riv€r Brâv0 clone Evil )

His findings : softer 440C (or lesser steel), uneven grind out of the box on his.

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Sanrenmu just announced the Land (you know, the big 7010) in VG10.

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VG10 is quite a nice steel, especially for a budget knife. It sharpens up so nice and I can always get a very fine edge. Stainless as heck too.

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It is called Land 812 which suggests it is between size of 710 and 910 (ie same size as 8103/4)
It also uses appears to use titanium handle (we can see lockbar insert).

I am very interested. Of course, depending on price and availability.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpxViGMBQDP/

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Already available on Aliexpress for 76$

Land 812 on Aliexpress

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Already available on Aliexpress for 76$


Land 812 on Aliexpress

Wow that’s fast. And expensive (might still be value for money though). More expensive than the Y-start I was looking at.

Speaking of Y-start, any opinions on them? Has anyone found a pivot tool for them?

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EDCba wrote:
 Speaking of Y-start, any opinions on them? Has anyone found a pivot tool for them?

I only have a JIN01 from Y-start and the pivot screw use a standard torx print but i know the JIN02 is not the same.

The JIN01 pivot screw was too tight when i received it and i had to open it using two hands (easiliy solved).

It feels tough and heavy and was sharp enough out of the box but beside that it has nothing really special for me so i have barely used it until now.

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EDCba wrote:

Wow that’s fast. And expensive (might still be value for money though). More expensive than the Y-start I was looking at.

Speaking of Y-start, any opinions on them? Has anyone found a pivot tool for them?

Do you mean the Y-Start LK5015 and LK5014? You can adjust that kind of pivot screw with a simple flat head screwdriver.

Regarding the Land 812 the competition is quite strong in that price range (CH Knife, Two Sun, Y-Start, Green Thorn, Stedemon Vouking, Bear Claw etc.) so SRM should have released it with a more budget friendly price tag.

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