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Whatever you buy, don’t buy 1095, 1075 or 1060 steels, as they’ve corrosion rating 0.

Else I consider to buy a super steel knife, maybe a TwoSun as they have good prices for these steels.
What other brands are recommended for budget super steel knives?

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CH knives has quite a few models in S35VN/M390/Ti/CF, usually around $100/$150 and their quality is very good.
Kizer has once in a while sales on some models with S35VN, like for example the one I posed a few posts above from KnifeCenter, or if you look at their store on Aliexpress, they have a few models on sale right now below $100.

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My wife took her little Kershaw pink folder to the airport. She totally forgot. She has already checked her bag so she had to toss it.
She loves that little knife. I bought it for her.
Anyone know of a small pink folder that’s affordable?

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My wife took her little Kershaw pink folder to the airport. She totally forgot. She has already checked her bag so she had to toss it. She loves that little knife. I bought it for her. Anyone know of a small pink folder that’s affordable?

The QSP Parrot fits the bill. Goes for around $21. Love this knife. I dyed mine fuchsia, but it was originally a lighter pink.

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bdpf79 wrote:
CH knives has quite a few models in S35VN/M390/Ti/CF, usually around $100/$150 and their quality is very good. Kizer has once in a while sales on some models with S35VN, like for example the one I posed a few posts above from KnifeCenter, or if you look at their store on Aliexpress, they have a few models on sale right now below $100.

This is true. I have both the Kizer stores in my favorites on AliExpress. I take a look through their inventory every once in a while. I’ve seen some great deals on knives in VG-10, N690, or S35VN. I’ve also seen some big sales at BladeHQ. There are special editions like the premium Kershaws in S35VN and M390. The S35VN versions of the Elementum are around $80 if you can catch them in stock.

The best “budget super steel” is still a TwoSun. You can get the little TS150 in S90V for just under $50. Has anyone tested the edge retention on that little knife?

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Chronovore wrote:
You can get the little TS150 in S90V for just under $50. Has anyone tested the edge retention on that little knife?

Not the TS150 but Cedric & Ada tested Twosun S90V here
I love TwoSun knives, but it seems their S90V is not that great, at least on the one knife he got.
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Quick question, are automatics now illegal..? Some years ago got ganzo auto that seemed a lot better than its cheap price point. Seems all of them are now discontinued..?

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allcool wrote:
Quick question, are automatics now illegal..? Some years ago got ganzo auto that seemed a lot better than its cheap price point. Seems all of them are now discontinued..?

Legality depends on the state and local laws. Also dependent on if the police officer wants to give you trouble or not.

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The Kabar Dozier is the best knife ever made. Designed by a real knife man. Not chinese junk.

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scalpel_ninja wrote:
allcool wrote:
Quick question, are automatics now illegal..? Some years ago got ganzo auto that seemed a lot better than its cheap price point. Seems all of them are now discontinued..?

Legality depends on the state and local laws. Also dependent on if the police officer wants to give you trouble or not.

Ok, thanks for the reply. Where is a good place to get an automatic now, what are budget decent brands to look at..? Seems everywhere I’ve looked they’re all discontinued..?

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allcool wrote:
Ok, thanks for the reply. Where is a good place to get an automatic now, what are budget decent brands to look at..? Seems everywhere I’ve looked they’re all discontinued..?

Sorry I don’t have a source as I live in California, where automatics over 2 inches are illegal. Therefore no fun OTFs and the like allowed here.

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there are two types of “automatics” that i know about.

1. Out the Front. switchblade. illegal in my state.
2. Spring assist. side opening. legal in my state.

usually, when talking about autos, #2 is what the law means.
here is my source: smkw.com.

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Grimsmo wrote:
The Kabar Dozier is the best knife ever made. Designed by a real knife man. Not chinese junk.

Welcome to BLF! Just curious about your username: Fan/owner of a Grimsmo? Related to John?

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Before BLF helped me see the high CRI light: Inova X5 | Maratac Titanium Inspection AAAx2 XP-G2

After BLF helped me see the high CRI light: Wowtac A2S NW | FW3A SST-20 4000K + 18350 tube | Noctigon KR4 Ti/Cu E21A 4500K + 18350 tube | Thrunite Ti3 NW | Wurkkos FC11 x2 | FW3 CuTi XPL-HI 5000K + 18350 tube | Olight I1R EOS (de-anodized) | Reylight Pineapple Mini Copper Nichia 219B | Fireflies SS AAA Nichia 219B SW45k D220 | Reylight LAN Ti Nichia 219C + tritium | Astrolux S41 Stainless Nichia 219C | Convoy S2+ -Orange- 7135x8 T6-3B | Reylight Titanium Pineapple Mini | SkyLumen LEPvn | Convoy S2+ Grey SST-20 4000k | Nitecore D10 Custom with Anduril | Jetbeam RRT01vn 3000K | Thrunite T10 Ti | Klarus Mi7 Ti | Singfire SF-348

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scalpel_ninja wrote:
Grimsmo wrote:
The Kabar Dozier is the best knife ever made. Designed by a real knife man. Not chinese junk.

Welcome to BLF! Just curious about your username: Fan/owner of a Grimsmo? Related to John?

I agree with him. Not chinese junk. Taiwanese junk. Taiwanese, Chinese, can’t all knives just get along. The man may have designed it but, leave it up to western culture to send it overseas for cheap labor and materials, sometimes. I’m not complaining. I love a well put together knife.

My grandfather, who was a end of WW2 and Korean war vet. Yeah, he was a glutton for punishment and not super honest on his age at the time, told me shortly before he died. “Todd, the only difference between Benchmade and those chinese knives is the zip code.” Nah, I’m just joking, he didn’t say any of that nonsense. He would of slapped me in the back of the head for buying a ESE knife. I never had to buy a knife of my own while he was alive. So I got really crappy hand me down Case knives. Nah, I’m just kiddin, he didn’t give me any of those. He did throw a few Bucks my way on occasion. I mean literally threw. Did I mention my grandfather was a mean old man? Nah, just kidding, he wasn’t. Come to think of it, he never gave me a knife.

What was I even on about anyway?

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turkeydance wrote:
there are two types of “automatics” that i know about.

1. Out the Front. switchblade. illegal in my state.
2. Spring assist. side opening. legal in my state.

usually, when talking about autos, #2 is what the law means.
here is my source: smkw.com.
!https://d108yk2sqygjyw.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/Map-of-Automatic-Kni...!

Thanks, ya the automatic side opening is what I’m looking for. According to the chart, legal in my State of Fl.

Got a very very basic knowledge of these, only owning my cheap gonzo still real strong side opening no asset needed. Am I wrong thinking spring asset and automatic are 2 different things…?

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allcool wrote:
turkeydance wrote:
there are two types of “automatics” that i know about.

1. Out the Front. switchblade. illegal in my state.
2. Spring assist. side opening. legal in my state.

usually, when talking about autos, #2 is what the law means.
here is my source: smkw.com.
!https://d108yk2sqygjyw.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/Map-of-Automatic-Kni...!

Thanks, ya the automatic side opening is what I’m looking for. According to the chart, legal in my State of Fl.

Got a very very basic knowledge of these, only owning my cheap gonzo still real strong side opening no asset needed. Am I wrong thinking spring asset and automatic are 2 different things…?


Hard to beat the Boker Kalashnikovs, I see them as low as $33 for some models and they are plenty snappy. Mine seems like solid quality too, I’ve had it several years and haven’t had any problems with it.
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Auto means you push a button for a fully spring deployed blade, assisted means you push the blade out part way and then the spring takes over and deploys the blade.
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Kershaw has several decent auto’s you can find them on DHgate or Aliexpress.
Aliexpress’s search engine doesn’t work as well, try “kershaw knife” or use model number sometimes helps. I think all kershaw auto’s are called launch which they have several different versions. I have also ordered them from Wish but that takes for ever to get here. Gerber also makes a few, last one I purchased was a Empower from Smoky Mountain Knives. If you want to purchase from the states they can get a little more expensive. https://www.bladehq.com/cat—Side-Opening-Automatics—40

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bdpf79 wrote:
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You can get the little TS150 in S90V for just under $50. Has anyone tested the edge retention on that little knife?
Not the TS150 but Cedric & Ada tested Twosun S90V here I love TwoSun knives, but it seems their S90V is not that great, at least on the one knife he got.

Thanks. I had forgotten that video. TwoSun’s S90V only did 270 cuts. That’s way below par for S90V. For instance, Spyderco’s S90V did 700 cuts in his test. So that looks pretty bad. However, it’s worth putting the numbers into context. I’ve seen him test S35VN from both Kizer and Chris Reeve. Neither made it past 200 cuts. So while 270 cuts is pretty bad for S90V, it’s still pretty good for a $100 knife. I think the least expensive knife in S90V on BladeHQ is like $200.

This reminds me of the controversy over “budget” M390 in the premium Kershaws, or Chinese D2 versus better D2 in Benchmade knives (etc.). Context is important in judging the value. At $50, I’d be pretty happy with TwoSun’s S90V. Silly

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Hard to beat the Boker Kalashnikovs, I see them as low as $33 for some models and they are plenty snappy. Mine seems like solid quality too, I’ve had it several years and haven’t had any problems with it.

Agreed. I have a clever type one and a drop point? Not sure if the other is a drop point or not. Both excellent knives. They both needed a bit of loctite on the pivot screw though. Not sure if all of them do. After that, it is indeed rock solid. Great auto, non OTF choice.

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Chronovore wrote:
bdpf79 wrote:
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You can get the little TS150 in S90V for just under $50. Has anyone tested the edge retention on that little knife?
Not the TS150 but Cedric & Ada tested Twosun S90V here I love TwoSun knives, but it seems their S90V is not that great, at least on the one knife he got.

Thanks. I had forgotten that video. TwoSun’s S90V only did 270 cuts. That’s way below par for S90V. For instance, Spyderco’s S90V did 700 cuts in his test. So that looks pretty bad. However, it’s worth putting the numbers into context. I’ve seen him test S35VN from both Kizer and Chris Reeve. Neither made it past 200 cuts. So while 270 cuts is pretty bad for S90V, it’s still pretty good for a $100 knife. I think the least expensive knife in S90V on BladeHQ is like $200.

This reminds me of the controversy over “budget” M390 in the premium Kershaws, or Chinese D2 versus better D2 in Benchmade knives (etc.). Context is important in judging the value. At $50, I’d be pretty happy with TwoSun’s S90V. Silly

You inquired if anyone had tested TwoSun S90V and I just answered with who did.
I am not arguing the value of the knife as I agree, for the price point, no one can complain.
However. while the knife is still definitely a value for the price, some people look specifically for this type of steel for the edge retention that it offers, which they won’t get with this knife.
I personally would have preferred them offering it in S35VN or M390 with a heat treat that offers similar performance to other companies with this steel, rather than offering S90V without the performance that it should have, regardless of the price point.

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At $50, I’d be pretty happy with TwoSun’s S90V. Silly

At $50, I would have preferred it in S35VN with S35VN performance even if it performs slightly less than their S90V.

Edit: btw, I wonder if TwoSun themselves have acknowledge that there might be something wrong with their S90V?
I might be wrong, but I don’t think I have seen any of their new models for the past couple of months coming in S90V, they seem to all be M390.
Also, I have had my eye on the TS187 on Ebay for a while now.
At first, it was offered in S90V on the CF version. Then they came out with a micarta version in M390. Then switched their CF to M390 as well and I no longer see it in S90V on Ebay (still see it on Aliexpress though).

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Rexlion wrote:
allcool wrote:
turkeydance wrote:
there are two types of “automatics” that i know about.

1. Out the Front. switchblade. illegal in my state.
2. Spring assist. side opening. legal in my state.

usually, when talking about autos, #2 is what the law means.
here is my source: smkw.com.
!https://d108yk2sqygjyw.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/Map-of-Automatic-Kni...!

Thanks, ya the automatic side opening is what I’m looking for. According to the chart, legal in my State of Fl.

Got a very very basic knowledge of these, only owning my cheap gonzo still real strong side opening no asset needed. Am I wrong thinking spring asset and automatic are 2 different things…?


Hard to beat the Boker Kalashnikovs, I see them as low as $33 for some models and they are plenty snappy. Mine seems like solid quality too, I’ve had it several years and haven’t had any problems with it.
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Auto means you push a button for a fully spring deployed blade, assisted means you push the blade out part way and then the spring takes over and deploys the blade. . Kershaw has several decent auto’s you can find them on DHgate or Aliexpress. Aliexpress’s search engine doesn’t work as well, try “kershaw knife” or use model number sometimes helps. I think all kershaw auto’s are called launch which they have several different versions. I have also ordered them from Wish but that takes for ever to get here. Gerber also makes a few, last one I purchased was a Empower from Smoky Mountain Knives. If you want to purchase from the states they can get a little more expensive. https://www.bladehq.com/cat—Side-Opening-Automatics—40

Thanks guys, exactly what I was looking for. Those Kershaws look nice…

What does it mean when they say Boker Strike ‘conversion’ with coil spring..? Is that a factory option or a cobbed together nightmare.

Whats the opinion for best size for a edc. Kershaws and Bokers look sweet. But a sharp little mini Boker would maybe work for me as a box cutter, all around pocket knife and maybe even self defense if push comes to shove, but thats pretty doubtful as I’m very aware and careful of where/what I do. Suppose in these times you never know…

So, help a rookie figure this out, other than the obvious, what practical edc purpose does one gain going from a 2“stubby to mini 2.6” or to a 3.25” or a 4.75”..? What is the normal purpose/use of these different size autos…
Will the D2 or cts-xhp version chip easier than the aus-8 if I hit a staple box cutting, or is the aus-8 good enough..?

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If you have any knives of varying handle lengths, try holding and manipulaing them in your hand and see how secure your grip seems. My hands are on the small side (I’m 5’8”) and a 4” handle length fills my hand pretty well, a 3.5” doesn’t reach the pinky. If you go to a really short-handled knife you may have trouble controlling it in use.

My 3.5”-handle spring-assist Kershaw is a bit more challenging to hold onto while activating the flipper than a 4”. But I like the 3.5” better for the light weight and compactness in the pocket. With a full auto (press a button and the blade springs out) this might not quite as much of an issue as with a spring assist, but I don’t have any autos smaller than the Kalashnikov to confirm that. That Boker is heavy for its size, though.

If you hardly ever deploy the blade and mostly just want to carry, short and light is good. If you will frequently need to pull it out and use it, go a little larger. If you are serious about using a blade for self defense, “go big or go home.” Wink

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xevious wrote:
Seeing as makers like Ganzo & Sanrenmu have made decent knives for a good 10+ years now, are there any models that have been discontinued and are now sought after? Sometimes these companies make a really good design then end up discontinuing it, moving onto new designs. I expect that for some discontinued models there may be a “niche interest,” not enough to get onto their radar, but enough to make some people try collecting them. If you have an older discontinued Chinese brand knife that you treasure, please post about it. Big Smile

Ganzo models with wood handle are no longer produced.

Have just a few wooden handle knives. This is one of my favourite one. Lone Wolf rosewood handle T1 with CPM-S30V blade.
Too bad Lone Wolf knives are no longer in production.

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Thanks. I had forgotten that video. TwoSun’s S90V only did 270 cuts. That’s way below par for S90V. For instance, Spyderco’s S90V did 700 cuts in his test. So that looks pretty bad. However, it’s worth putting the numbers into context. I’ve seen him test S35VN from both Kizer and Chris Reeve. Neither made it past 200 cuts. So while 270 cuts is pretty bad for S90V, it’s still pretty good for a $100 knife. I think the least expensive knife in S90V on BladeHQ is like $200.

FWIW the best value in S90V blades right now are arguably from Manly, a Bulgarian maker. The Peak (lockback) & Wasp (slip joint) are great knives.

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Chronovore wrote:
Thanks. I had forgotten that video. TwoSun’s S90V only did 270 cuts. That’s way below par for S90V. For instance, Spyderco’s S90V did 700 cuts in his test. So that looks pretty bad. However, it’s worth putting the numbers into context. I’ve seen him test S35VN from both Kizer and Chris Reeve. Neither made it past 200 cuts. So while 270 cuts is pretty bad for S90V, it’s still pretty good for a $100 knife. I think the least expensive knife in S90V on BladeHQ is like $200.

FWIW the best value in S90V blades right now are arguably from Manly, a Bulgarian maker. The Peak (lockback) & Wasp (slip joint) are great knives.

I couldn’t agree more. Here’s my Peak one handed with 94 mm S90V blade. The TS150 is in the toothpick category with 115 mm overall length. Smile

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As much as I love my one handed Peak, I’m hoping that eventually they come out with a smaller version. The Peak is just a little large for (my) EDC. Something closer to 3” rather than almost 4 would be ideal to me.

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Found this M390 flipper, relative cheap 130 usd. Few left, hurry!
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