TrustFire X9 - Thoughts and beamshots

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OK Guys,

I am going to go ahead and order some drivers and try this:

1) Desolder the spring from the back of the driver and solder on a short wire

2) Cut out a plastic gasket/insulator the same diameter as the board and put a hole in it for the wire to go through

3) Solder the wire to a metal disk glued to the gasket.  Battery + will contact the flat disk instead of a spring

What do you guys think?

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Ian2381 wrote:

Will this upgrade going to be an issue using AW 2200mah and XTAR 18700 2600mah protected batteries? bought this driver to upgrade my X9 using these batteries.

I'm afraid it will, even with the AW 2200, which are the shortest protected 18650's I have. The XTAR are much longer.

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stevetexas wrote:

OK Guys,

I am going to go ahead and order some drivers and try this:

1) Desolder the spring from the back of the driver and solder on a short wire

2) Cut out a plastic gasket/insulator the same diameter as the board and put a hole in it for the wire to go through

3) Solder the wire to a metal disk glued to the gasket.  Battery + will contact the flat disk instead of a spring

What do you guys think?

The gasket the diameter of the board and the metal disk will both add their own thickness. I'd rather just dremel-cut a couple of turns off the spring, leaving only as much as needed for the battery shoulder to clear the board components (taking into account some pressure against the spring). That, IMO, would be the most space-conscious solution.

Not shure if that would be enough, though.

If the above doesn't work, a well-known solution is to remove the entire spring and replace it with a fat blob of solder thick enough for the battery to clear the components. You might need to periodically clean the tin oxide on that blob to keep the light at top performance. I have done this on another light and as far as I can tell, the oxide doesn't seem to be a problem at all.

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When looking for space you will find it in the tailcap.....

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joerch wrote:

When looking for space you will find it in the tailcap.....

Thats right, I'm going to try to trim size in the tailcap of mine.Wink

 

Update: done modding the switch, waiting for my driver from kd.

Tested by using magnets to extend the length of the battery.

Does not look good as before but working.

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You don't need to have the spring on the nanjk driver..I have one light that had issues with spacing and I removed the spring..the button on the top of the cell makes contact just fine with the pad of the driver..

 

edit:sorry..I forgot this was the one driver I had modified to drive at 1.4a..all the 7135's on the spring side have been removed to accomplish this..that's why it works without the spring..

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joerch wrote:

When looking for space you will find it in the tailcap.....

Absolutely. No need to bother rigging something up on the driver end.  Mine is working nicely on unprotected or protected cells and also with or without the lanyard ring.

All that is needed is a way to shorten up the switch assembly. As well as swapping out the spacer I mentioned above, it could be cut,filed, or sanded down to shorten it.

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lcbgdboy wrote:

Trustfire X9 Cree XM-L T6 1200 Lumens 5-Mode Led flashlight Kit(1*18650Batery,With Charger + 1 x 18650 Battery)

price at $53.80, i think cheaper.

lcbgdboy prices at your shop are expensive. Can you sell it for $20?

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I will take 1 or 2 for $20 shipped.

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how2 wrote:

lcbgdboy wrote:

Trustfire X9 Cree XM-L T6 1200 Lumens 5-Mode Led flashlight Kit(1*18650Batery,With Charger + 1 x 18650 Battery)

price at $53.80, i think cheaper.

lcbgdboy prices at your shop are expensive. Can you sell it for $20?

Let's be fair. $25.00 shipped! No pos batteries or charger...just the light. I'll take 2 if that's the case! Wink

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Here are some random beam comparisons between the X9 and the Keygos KE5. The X9 is on the right in both pics.

 

High mode at 25' 

 

High mode at about 18'

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Weiser, thanks for the comparison shots.

In hind sight, knowing how both of those lights perform, would you get a Keygos if you had an X9 or vice versa? You know, if you wanted only 1 decent thrower.

I'm trying to decide what 18650 light to get next and wondering if I should get a C8 variant like the Keygos or go for a slightly more floodier light.

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fishmaniac, 

 

I like the Keygos for what it is and is towards the top for performance per dollar, but the X9 still wins hands down. And this is despite not being driven as hard as it could (~1.85A). I think the X9 is still worth the extra $10 and it's clearly a better thrower. The reflector is considerably bigger. The size is also great for a flashlight primarily used around the house or in one particular location. The Keygos is much more compact and travels better. The X9 also has a great feel holding underhand. The tube is the perfect length for me as my thumb seems to find one of the indents just behind the heat fins and the back of my palm rests towards the end. It's quite the comfortable grip for just being a straight tube. If you want a thrower and don't need a compact design, definitely go with the X9 over KE5/C8 types. It's also very nice looking in person. The photo's don't do it proper justice. 

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fishmaniac wrote:

Weiser, thanks for the comparison shots.

In hind sight, knowing how both of those lights perform, would you get a Keygos if you had an X9 or vice versa? You know, if you wanted only 1 decent thrower.

I'm trying to decide what 18650 light to get next and wondering if I should get a C8 variant like the Keygos or go for a slightly more floodier light.

I also have the X9 and the Keygos KE5 and both have tight beam but usable spill. The X9 has brighter hotspot but the KE5 has brighter spill on mine and the size difference is simply huge so the KE5 is easier to carry around. These size comparison pix might help you decide.

X9, Skyline1, RQ, KE5, L2P

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Yes, KE5 has more usable spill, definitely. But that's to be expected since it has a smaller reflector and that spill falls more on the flood side of things. If going for compact the KE5 fits the bill. If size isn't a factor (and I actually like the X9 size for around the property) then the X9 is what you want for throw. My KE5 has slight artifacts in the hotspot whereas the X9 appears almost perfect. The KE5 is also slightly more blue, but only when compared to the X9. You don't notice it otherwise. I like both of these lights and they're definitely two of my best purchases!

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I thought I had seen this before. And I did.             M3LT

 

A bit of shared "Fire".

I like the TrustFire, two bad it can't use 2 x 18650. I would have bought it immediately.


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The X9 is even pocketable.

On my walks, I use another floodier light, but I also carry the X9 head up in my back pocket. I draw it out when I want to spot game at longer distance.

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Ah, Hikelite, you should have posted that before I bid for my X9!

(Yes, I saw the price, but who cares...) Laughing

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Wow good find Hike...no wonder my X9 felt surefire-ie.

And I agree Aged, I find a way to put her in my pockets. Wink

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love the x9..at 1.7a it was bright,,a nangk 2800 driver later and it's a monster..tighter beam than my 980l..awesome!! Smile

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You can use the grip rings from an L2T or the Tiablo combat rings to make the X9 look more alike the M3LT, it also gives a nicer grip feeling and the possibilty for cigar grip, I like them on my X9.

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pounder wrote:

love the x9..at 1.7a it was bright,,a nangk 2800 driver later and it's a monster..tighter beam than my 980l..awesome!! Smile

Pounder,

Can you please give a link for the nangk 2800 driver? I also want to swap drivers on my X9. Can you give me a SOP on how to change the driver, this would be my first "mod". Thanks

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pounder wrote:

love the x9..at 1.7a it was bright,,a nangk 2800 driver later and it's a monster..tighter beam than my 980l..awesome!! Smile

Pounder,

Can you please give a link for the nangk 2800 driver? I also want to swap drivers on my X9. Can you give me a SOP on how to change the driver, this would be my first "mod". Thanks

here is the link http://www.kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=10995

step 1. remove the old driver..desolder the driver or scrape away the solder with a awl or something sharp and unscrew the led side and use a screwdriver to punch it away from the pill..the solder they use is hard to desolder I find and easier to scrap away for connection from the pill and board and just push the driver out..

step 2..make sure the driver fits..it's a tight fit in the pill for this driver and I had to sand the outer edges some to get it to seat properly..

step 3. solder the connections to the board..test it with a cable and a battery to make the proper connections..if it works seat the driver..test it again..you may have a ground fault..if so resolder your board connections to they clear the pill sides and do not make contact when the board is seated..

step 4. if all is well when you seat the board then solder the sides of the driver to the pill..

step 5. if you need room for protected batteries (and you will) take out the white washer in the tail cap and sand it down to gain some clearance for the batteries..

 

all done!

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Thank you very much pounder!!

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any time! Wink

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Thanks from agedbriar too!

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i am about to get x9 too!. from what i've read, the onboard x9 driver is capable to draw max 1.7 only???

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harry25175 wrote:

i am about to get x9 too!. from what i've read, the onboard x9 driver is capable to draw max 1.7 only???

 

that's what I got from a trustfire flame that will do 4a on my 980l..this is using a good accurate meter with 14 awg wire as leads..it was bright still because of the size of the hotspot (bout half the size of my 980l) ..with the 2.8a driver the hotspot is brighter than my 980l, but the 980l appears have more lumens on a ceiling bounce test..as well it should given the 980l is driven harder than the x9..both are great lights but the x9 seems more trustworthy at longer run times given the regulated current of 2.8a..

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pounder wrote:

that's what I got from a trustfire flame that will do 4a on my 980l..this is using a good accurate meter with 14 awg wire as leads..it was bright still because of the size of the hotspot (bout half the size of my 980l) ..with the 2.8a driver the hotspot is brighter than my 980l, but the 980l appears have more lumens on a ceiling bounce test..as well it should given the 980l is driven harder than the x9..both are great lights but the x9 seems more trustworthy at longer run times given the regulated current of 2.8a..

 

well, i mean, before you mods with 2.8 driver, what's the current drawn by the onboard driver?

 

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