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BTW, the X6 is a great mod host. I’ve been meaning to mod one of mine for a while, and finally did it today.

I just modded my BLF EE X6 (CW, stock) to use a BLF A6 driver (FET+1) and a de-domed XP-G2 S2 1D. Before the mod (stock X6), it got:

  • 922 lm
  • 18.3 kcd / 270 m

After the mod, it gets:

  • 604 lm
  • 52.5 kcd / 458 m

I’m having a hard time focusing the beam though, so the lux could potentially get a little higher.

I don’t know what the lux would be like with XP-L and a FET+1 driver, or with XP-L HI. At a guess though, probably about 27 kcd for XP-L or maybe 45 kcd for XP-L HI. But these are only guesses.

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1) SS/Copper (SS/Cu) set
2) NW
3) One set

Thanks again, for this great GB!

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Thanks TK,

You know… what would be really interesting to me, is what would the throw be with a constant output (lets just say) 600lm output – comparing XP-G2 (dome-on) to a XP-L Hi?

How do their actual ‘optical’ die sizes compare?

Regardless, there has to be a winner… Who do you think it would be?

Thanks,
-Chuck

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Put me down for
1 SS/Cu NW
1 Al NW

Thanks in advance.

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chuckhov wrote:
You know… what would be really interesting to me, is what would the throw be with a constant output (lets just say) 600lm output – comparing XP-G2 (dome-on) to a XP-L Hi?

How do their actual ‘optical’ die sizes compare?

Regardless, there has to be a winner… Who do you think it would be?


Not a clue, but I bet it would be close (ish).
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Please put me down for :

1 SS/Cu NW
1 Al WW

Thanks,
Mike

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So your spot is you serial number? I have #20… could I request #57, or if you have #57 would you be willing to swap spots for #20?

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1 SS/Cu nw
1 Al nw

Please and thank you! Smile

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I'll take 2 sets of Al

cw and nw

thanks

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FTR, I’ve hit 103Kcd before in a X6 with de-domed XP-G2. manxbuggy1 has that light. Wink

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DB Custom wrote:
FTR, I’ve hit 103Kcd before in a X6 with de-domed XP-G2. manxbuggy1 has that light. Wink

Yeah, I’m actually kind of wondering what I did wrong to get only ~50 kcd. It might just need better focus, but I doubt that’s the whole story.

Regardless, it’s smaller and nicer than my C8 and it throws farther, so it’s a win.

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one set of each.
spot #55 for each
NW for each

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please include my name
1 ss/cu – NW
1 ss/cu – CW

thank you

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If the first set doesn’t make 200, put me down for CW on the second set (that needs a minimum of 100)

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1 HAIII Aluminum Set WW may change to NW later.
Watch the engineering specs on the 14500`s the new keepowers are getting fat and long
I have a few lights that they will not even start into the tube.

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Krono: think you missed my signup for one alu set in post #93

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lionheart_2281 wrote:
If the first set doesn't make 200, put me down for CW on the second set (that needs a minimum of 100)

Why not both? You know you want to Innocent.

All kidding aside - no way these lights do not make the minimums ,,,, and then some.

Kronos, Dale and JM put a lot of thought into these lights. It would be very difficult to find ways to improve them Smile As a matter of fact if one were to buy the internals alone it would be more than the HAIII set......and when you consider the SS/Cu.....well, just try and buy Stainless or Copper hosts for $20 each - just not possible.

It's the simple things that we take for granted that cost us the most

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allthumbs wrote:
Watch the engineering specs on the 14500`s the new keepowers are getting fat and long I have a few lights that they will not even start into the tube.

I’m thinking that the 14500 light will have to be an “IMR” only light, because of the amp draw.

IMRs come without protection, so Not fat.

The typical protected 14500 will only allow for about half of the draw for the FET driver.

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_87...

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_87...

Thanks,
-Chuck

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1 SS/Cu set in NW, please.

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Tete wrote:
1 SS/Cu set in NW, please.

Great!!

List updated in post 164

Keep em coming !  Smile

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Sounds awesome!
Count me in for 1 for SS/Cu NW please. Thanks!

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Chuck post 169
so the 14500 driver needs low voltage protection ?

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The 14500 light will have the same driver as the 18650 light, the LVP will be built in like all of these drivers from Wight and ToyKeeper.

And yes, as an FET direct drive driver it will be highly beneficial to use a non-protected IMR 14500 such as the AW IMR14500 in a red package. To wit, there are no better 14500’s at this time but I could be mistaken (it’s happened before!)

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@Dale,

I dunno, because I don’t yet have any, but RMM seems to really like these:

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_87...

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_87...

Thanks,
-Chuck

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L I B! I actually have some of those! :bigsmile:

Time to do some testing, I’d forgotten all about em… pulled my little Rook just yesterday and topped off the cells and it had these in it. I didn’t even think about it.

I’ll do a couple of checks on a chopped MiniMag triple to see how output is with the AW Red IMR vs. these Windyfires…. be back…

Edit: I also have a SS Maxtoch 14500 light with a 15mm FET driver and XP-L V6 3D, will test that with 3 cells and see how they stack up, should be very relevant to this little proposed copper light. Smile I have an Efest IMR 14500, AW IMR14500, and the Windyfire 14500. They’re all on the charger, same XTAR charger, so we’ll soon see. Will still do the triple for the difference in demand…

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My Efest V2 IMR14500 is taking forever to charge, so here’s some results on the AW and Windyfire which will be the top 2 anyway.

MiniMag light chopped by Texas Lumens and built by yours truly, triple XP-G2

AW IMR14500 (Red) 5.59A for 1959.6 lumens
Windyfire IMR14500 5.50A for 1897.5 lumens

Ultrafire C3 SS 14500 light, with XP-L V6 3D and Wights 15mm A17DD S08 FET driver

AW IMR14500 (Red) 4.13A for 1021.2 lumens
Windyfire IMR14500 4.23A for 1048.8 lumens

So, the Windyfire seems to do better in a single emitter FET style light while the AW nudges it out in a Triple set-up. The MiniMag has one of the older FET drivers.

Being as how the Windyfire is easy to get from Richard, I’d say it’s the hands-down choice for this proposed little K6. :bigsmile:

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I’d like an aluminum set, NW. Thanks

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I want a Al set #42 to match my SS/Cu set, WW, and switch with Nisse, who has expressed interest in #100 if he doesnt mind!

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1 x SS/Cu CW, please! Thanks Wink

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  1. Copper host, 14500 sized, same form factor as X6, but scaled down
    (I thought form factor was size so how can it be scaled down?)
    (I get it is smaller ie 14500 vs 18650 but is the head the same size or also smaller) sounds like a dumb question but I am unclear about it.
  1. I want the 14500 in copper NW I am willing to go in and split a set (because I as yet can not buy just the copper :_( ) any intrested parties?

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