More Fake Convoys from Gearbest.

210 posts / 0 new
Last post
DEL
DEL's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 9 months ago
Joined: 06/28/2015 - 08:35
Posts: 559
Location: Canada

Note the missing voltage divider resistors and mystery controller chip.
The PCB is a carbon copy of a real 105C, apart from the tracks around chip.

antiparanoico
Offline
Last seen: 3 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 07/14/2013 - 19:17
Posts: 1176
Location: Wandering the world.

And… 7135/380mA vs. 350mA.

If anything can go wrong, it will.
Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value.

gearbest
gearbest's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 03/01/2014 - 00:55
Posts: 4257

Hi every one,

I’m really sorry this issue has brought you the trouble, we have one wrong batch in our warehouse before, now we have check it out, make the stocking units are right, if any one think you have received a wrong units, please contact our cs to get the refund to your GB wallet or resend with the package, sku and product details, beg your kindly forgiveness if bring you any trouble

freeme
freeme's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 16 min ago
Joined: 11/14/2013 - 22:00
Posts: 10676

380mA will be Qlite.

antiparanoico wrote:
And... 7135/380mA vs. 350mA.

1thedeals.comyoutubeAstroluxNealsgadgetsolight

akoposilester
akoposilester's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 6 months ago
Joined: 07/12/2014 - 01:09
Posts: 547
Location: SEA

ive ordered a couple of c8, s2 and s2+. i hope theyre not fake. lets wait and see.
bookmark for now.

ps
gearbest i hope you fix the fake convoys.

FL Newbie

Jubeldum
Jubeldum's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 years 9 months ago
Joined: 11/02/2014 - 09:20
Posts: 2057
Location: Michigan
hank wrote:
Quote:
the former Gearbest employee that ordered all the fake Convoy Red S2+?
That documented somewhere?

It was posted by Gearbest in one of the Gearbest threads where the counterfeit Convoys were being discussed. I got tired of searching for that post for you, but it was posted. Maybe Gearbest deleted the post and that is why I can’t find it?

Anyone else remember seeing that post?

keengeorge
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 04/26/2014 - 01:04
Posts: 1819
Location: Australia

Jubeldum wrote:
hank wrote:
Quote:
the former Gearbest employee that ordered all the fake Convoy Red S2+?
That documented somewhere?
It was posted by Gearbest in one of the Gearbest threads where the counterfeit Convoys were being discussed. I got tired of searching for that post for you, but it was posted. Maybe Gearbest deleted the post and that is why I can't find it? Anyone else remember seeing that post?

Yes, I saw that post & from memory it was in Convoy/Simon's original thread about the Red S2+  (I may be wrong)

 

Edit:

Red S2+ flashlight ,for girls,for your lover

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/36304


Jubeldum
Jubeldum's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 years 9 months ago
Joined: 11/02/2014 - 09:20
Posts: 2057
Location: Michigan

DEL wrote:

Against a U2-3C from ME:

That looks better than most sub $7 UltraFire C8 lights that I have seen. After you get your refund from Gearbest, put some lube on the threads, some Arctic Silver under the MCPCB and change the driver spring. Maybe GearBest can unload the fake C8 lights for $6 and use the same Supplier that provided the fakes for a $7.98 Gearbest branded C8 with different camo patterns to choose from other than just black (just like the SK68)? Just as long as they use a proper driver, put thermal compound under the MCPCB and lube it. Wink

M4D M4X
M4D M4X's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 03/19/2014 - 05:17
Posts: 8821
Location: Austria (GMT + 1)

i am wondering how many percent of their customers are “flashaholics“ (especially on buying cheapos).

How many people do not have a community to help them identify fake items and get advice how to deal with fraud ?

being generous to the few who caught them does not undo the fact that much more still are ripped off…

0.02 $
(i wonder how much i get offered to delete this post Wink )

PLEASE NOTE
i do not work in "reviews, deals and codes" for the time being
maybe M4D M4X will return one day, but until then:

THANK YOU FOR YEARS OF YOUR SUPPORT AND FRIENDLY CONTACTS!

marcl
Offline
Last seen: 11 months 1 week ago
Joined: 01/30/2012 - 09:02
Posts: 1780
Location: United Kingdom

M4D M4X wrote:
i am wondering how many percent of their customers are “flashaholics“ (especially on buying cheapos).

How many people do not have a community to help them identify fake items and get advice how to deal with fraud ?

being generous to the few who caught them does not undo the fact that much more still are ripped off…

0.02 $
(i wonder how much i get offered to delete this post Wink )

For every one sold and spotted as fake by us there are hundreds sold to people who have no idea. Just like all the 10000 lumen torches sold on eBay. The amount of people who think my Acebeam is pathetic because their light is 3 times brighter, is unreal.

Let’s be honest there are people that have just realised their c8 is fake as this thread has evolved.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!

Jackasper
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 03/28/2011 - 00:27
Posts: 65
Location: Pacific Northwest
+1 well said
Rolz
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Joined: 01/25/2011 - 19:55
Posts: 975
Location: Australia

It’s unfortunate we see sellers resort to sourcing such fake products. Gearbest are really hurting their reputation by selling such items. When people buy from such sites and are burnt in the transaction they just dont come back. As has also been said unfortunatley many people end up buying the inferior copy and not realising it as it performs ok.

DEL
DEL's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 9 months ago
Joined: 06/28/2015 - 08:35
Posts: 559
Location: Canada

Jubeldum wrote:

That looks better than most sub $7 UltraFire C8 lights that I have seen. After you get your refund from Gearbest, put some lube on the threads, some Arctic Silver under the MCPCB and change the driver spring. Maybe GearBest can unload the fake C8 lights for $6 and use the same Supplier that provided the fakes for a $7.98 Gearbest branded C8 with different camo patterns to choose from other than just black (just like the SK68)? Just as long as they use a proper driver, put thermal compound under the MCPCB and lube it. Wink

On my sample I do not think there is anything to do with the ill-matched barrel-to-head and barrel-to-tailcap threads.
When you back up 1/16 turn from tight, it feels ready to fall apart.

bibihang
bibihang's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: 11/10/2011 - 09:32
Posts: 2445
Location: Malaysia

DEL wrote:

Against a U2-3C from ME:
!{width:100%}https://www.dropbox.com/s/i41j0d0aeautbpa/2015-07-30%2005.45.21_proc.jpg...!


Hold on, I am not sure if this is actually fake – It is probably just “partially” fake. Your Convoy C8 pill seems to have square-thread, screws to hold down the MCPCB and a retaining ring to keep the driver in place, which is actually the same as the Convoy C8 V2 (the latest one is “V3”, which has the controversial integrated shelf) as shown in Simon’s thread:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/34274

But in your pictures the driver spring looks crappy and there is no any thermal paste at all, so I am wondering what happen actually…

UliBär
UliBär's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 months 1 week ago
Joined: 05/22/2013 - 16:08
Posts: 391
Location: N52° 16' 9.444" E10° 31' 26.105"

bibihang wrote:
(…)
But in your pictures the driver spring looks crappy and there is no any thermal paste at all, so I am wondering what happen actually…
The oem just took good parts left on the shelf from the last production run and put them together with some crappy new manufactured parts… :/

Aloha, Uli

marcl
Offline
Last seen: 11 months 1 week ago
Joined: 01/30/2012 - 09:02
Posts: 1780
Location: United Kingdom

No one will ever know what happened, who made them, who bought them from who.

This is China we are talking about, they have stolen the song from Frozen, for Christ’s sake, changed it a little and are using it as the winter Olympic song. So don’t expect anything legit.

Marc

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!

DEL
DEL's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 9 months ago
Joined: 06/28/2015 - 08:35
Posts: 559
Location: Canada
UliBär wrote:
bibihang wrote:
(…) But in your pictures the driver spring looks crappy and there is no any thermal paste at all, so I am wondering what happen actually…
The oem just took good parts left on the shelf from the last production run and put them together with some crappy new manufactured parts… :/

I suspect it is a B-grade host fitted with a fake driver and unknown emitter.

It obviously has the exact same switch and switch PCB that came with the fake S2+.
At least the spacer washer is not corroded like on the S2+.
I do not own other Convoy C8s to compare with, is it normal to a have a 17mm switch assembly in these?
It has to be manually centered while tightening the ring.

Muto
Online
Last seen: 2 min 57 sec ago
Joined: 09/04/2012 - 16:42
Posts: 2684
Location: Southeast, PA
Rolz wrote:
It’s unfortunate we see sellers resort to sourcing such fake products. Gearbest are really hurting their reputation by selling such items. When people buy from such sites and are burnt in the transaction they just dont come back. As has also been said unfortunatley many people end up buying the inferior copy and not realising it as it performs ok.

Think of how many people think they have a real 1965 Pontiac GTO when it is just a dressed up Lemans, but they are happy, so who cares?
Or all the fake Shelby Mustangs that have been made through the years and sold as real.

Anyway, back to our show and the Convoy Clone problem at hand.
So many of these vendors do not see the product other than when they are originally placing the first order.
Now another drop shipper contacts them and says “we have some Convoy overstock for $x.xx which is less than they paid for the last batch, and tells them Yes, it is identical. So they place the order.

Then the product drop ships to the customer, the really sharp customers see the difference, test the difference and raise Holy Heck.
The other customers got a Red flashlight, it’s really bright and they don’t care about the fancy box, so all is well in their world.
Only after 5-10 of these complaints from the sharp customers do they then realize that they have been had and have a problem on their hands.
Now, how quickly can they stop the supply line and change vendors?
The bogus C8’s probably came from the same jobber as the Red S2+

Bottom line is, they will work it out and get these out of their supply chain.
It will likely get worse before it gets better in that there are a lot of orders in transit, so next 3-4 weeks these things are still going to be getting delivered.
Gearbest is not sticking their head in the sand as some other vendors have done in the past with these kinds of problems, so they are trying.

If you stick around here long enough or in this hobby in general, this will not be the last clone you will receive. Nature of the beast.

Just the way I see it, YMMV
Later,
Keith

The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain

After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards

hank
hank's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 6 days ago
Joined: 09/04/2011 - 21:52
Posts: 9599
Location: Berkeley, California
Quote:
the former Gearbest employee that ordered all the fake Convoy Red S2+?

Still looking. I like to know where these stories originate — or if the info has subsequently been deleted, what details can be retrieved.

bugsy36
bugsy36's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 07/11/2014 - 18:15
Posts: 2475
Location: Florida USA

Muto wrote:
Rolz wrote:
It's unfortunate we see sellers resort to sourcing such fake products. Gearbest are really hurting their reputation by selling such items. When people buy from such sites and are burnt in the transaction they just dont come back. As has also been said unfortunatley many people end up buying the inferior copy and not realising it as it performs ok.
Think of how many people think they have a real 1965 Pontiac GTO when it is just a dressed up Lemans, but they are happy, so who cares? Or all the fake Shelby Mustangs that have been made through the years and sold as real. Anyway, back to our show and the Convoy Clone problem at hand. So many of these vendors do not see the product other than when they are originally placing the first order. Now another drop shipper contacts them and says "we have some Convoy overstock for $x.xx which is less than they paid for the last batch, and tells them Yes, it is identical. So they place the order. Then the product drop ships to the customer, the really sharp customers see the difference, test the difference and raise Holy Heck. The other customers got a Red flashlight, it's really bright and they don't care about the fancy box, so all is well in their world. Only after 5-10 of these complaints from the sharp customers do they then realize that they have been had and have a problem on their hands. Now, how quickly can they stop the supply line and change vendors? The bogus C8's probably came from the same jobber as the Red S2+ Bottom line is, they will work it out and get these out of their supply chain. It will likely get worse before it gets better in that there are a lot of orders in transit, so next 3-4 weeks these things are still going to be getting delivered. Gearbest is not sticking their head in the sand as some other vendors have done in the past with these kinds of problems, so they are trying. If you stick around here long enough or in this hobby in general, this will not be the last clone you will receive. Nature of the beast. Just the way I see it, YMMV Later, Keith

I have been trying to stay out of this but I agree with Keith. 99% of the time the reseller does not even touch the product. Often times the wholesaler does not even see the product except at the outset when they make a purchase because they order by the hundreds sometimes even thousands.

When I was importing equipment that happened to us. The initial stuff was good and legit and then some junk got slipped in. It was caught but it was a hassle all the way around for us and our supplier. Why did the supplier send that stuff to us? Easy - there was deal on the "exact same stuff" and they thought they could make some money by increasing sales. Happens all of the time. Not just in China. Japan, Korea, India (the worst of the worst), Germany, Italy...ANYBODY and ANY PLACE that deals with manufactured products to be resold.

It sucks but that is why a person should know what they are buying but there is only a small percentage that ever does. The rest are happy Smile

This is not all on Gearbest. As long as they make good that is all that matters.

It's the simple things that we take for granted that cost us the most

Ευκαιρία λέει πιάσε με από το μέτωπο γιατί μόλις έχω περάσει δεν θα με πιάσειs

myhken
myhken's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 10 months ago
Joined: 07/03/2015 - 17:20
Posts: 549
Location: Norway

Muto wrote:

Anyway, back to our show and the Convoy Clone problem at hand.
So many of these vendors do not see the product other than when they are originally placing the first order.
Now another drop shipper contacts them and says “we have some Convoy overstock for $x.xx which is less than they paid for the last batch, and tells them Yes, it is identical. So they place the order.

Then the product drop ships to the customer, the really sharp customers see the difference, test the difference and raise Holy Heck.
The other customers got a Red flashlight, it’s really bright and they don’t care about the fancy box, so all is well in their world.
Only after 5-10 of these complaints from the sharp customers do they then realize that they have been had and have a problem on their hands.
Now, how quickly can they stop the supply line and change vendors?
The bogus C8’s probably came from the same jobber as the Red S2+

Bottom line is, they will work it out and get these out of their supply chain.
It will likely get worse before it gets better in that there are a lot of orders in transit, so next 3-4 weeks these things are still going to be getting delivered.
Gearbest is not sticking their head in the sand as some other vendors have done in the past with these kinds of problems, so they are trying.

If you stick around here long enough or in this hobby in general, this will not be the last clone you will receive. Nature of the beast.

Just the way I see it, YMMV
Later,
Keith

I have discovered that it’s two different customer care support at GB. The people that are on this forum, and the support people.
Via support ticket, I was only offer 100% refund in store credit, or 50% on my paypal account, no offer for new product.

Via Karen (Gearbest) user here at BLF, I got two possibles, refund or new product. So since the Convoy S2+ is a good flashlight, I will try to get new products, and hope the new ones is real.

And you are right about “shit hitting the fan” for some weeks now for GB, for all S2+ and C8 they have shipped the last three-four weeks, are most likely false. So many refund/new product request is going their way now.
And bad PR here on this forum.

Kenneth Myhre

itsonlyme
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 02/21/2015 - 10:05
Posts: 579
Location: Uk

Gearbest hasn’t had a good week.

Post 202 and 203 for info about their ex employee
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/36304?page=6

hank
hank's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 6 days ago
Joined: 09/04/2011 - 21:52
Posts: 9599
Location: Berkeley, California

Quote:
Post 202 and 203 for info about their ex employee http://budgetlightforum.com/node/36304[/quote] OK, that shows it was Simon from Convoy (202) who gave the info about an old buyer, and then GearBest (203) gave a nonspecific "if"  with directions on how to follow up.

We can hope the old buyer who "left his post" wasn't promoted (grin).

I don't see GB admitting they bought and sold fakes there, they're saying "if" someone had "trouble" with a convoy, if it was "defective"....  

Now that's not exactly the problem here.  And they offer a refund "to your GB wallet" -- also not exactly a refund.

It would be reassuring to hear someone at GB admit they bought and sold cheap fakes and tell us GB doesn't normally make that a business practice.

 

Good enough, thank you.  I just wanted to be sure who said what, and who didn't. 

Hey, I'm a nitpicker.  Doing that is part of the basic primate social contract.

marcl
Offline
Last seen: 11 months 1 week ago
Joined: 01/30/2012 - 09:02
Posts: 1780
Location: United Kingdom
bugsy36 wrote:

Muto wrote:
Rolz wrote:
It’s unfortunate we see sellers resort to sourcing such fake products. Gearbest are really hurting their reputation by selling such items. When people buy from such sites and are burnt in the transaction they just dont come back. As has also been said unfortunatley many people end up buying the inferior copy and not realising it as it performs ok.
Think of how many people think they have a real 1965 Pontiac GTO when it is just a dressed up Lemans, but they are happy, so who cares? Or all the fake Shelby Mustangs that have been made through the years and sold as real. Anyway, back to our show and the Convoy Clone problem at hand. So many of these vendors do not see the product other than when they are originally placing the first order. Now another drop shipper contacts them and says “we have some Convoy overstock for $x.xx which is less than they paid for the last batch, and tells them Yes, it is identical. So they place the order. Then the product drop ships to the customer, the really sharp customers see the difference, test the difference and raise Holy Heck. The other customers got a Red flashlight, it’s really bright and they don’t care about the fancy box, so all is well in their world. Only after 5-10 of these complaints from the sharp customers do they then realize that they have been had and have a problem on their hands. Now, how quickly can they stop the supply line and change vendors? The bogus C8’s probably came from the same jobber as the Red S2+ Bottom line is, they will work it out and get these out of their supply chain. It will likely get worse before it gets better in that there are a lot of orders in transit, so next 3-4 weeks these things are still going to be getting delivered. Gearbest is not sticking their head in the sand as some other vendors have done in the past with these kinds of problems, so they are trying. If you stick around here long enough or in this hobby in general, this will not be the last clone you will receive. Nature of the beast. Just the way I see it, YMMV Later, Keith

I have been trying to stay out of this but I agree with Keith. 99% of the time the reseller does not even touch the product. Often times the wholesaler does not even see the product except at the outset when they make a purchase because they order by the hundreds sometimes even thousands.

When I was importing equipment that happened to us. The initial stuff was good and legit and then some junk got slipped in. It was caught but it was a hassle all the way around for us and our supplier. Why did the supplier send that stuff to us? Easy – there was deal on the “exact same stuff” and they thought they could make some money by increasing sales. Happens all of the time. Not just in China. Japan, Korea, India (the worst of the worst), Germany, Italy…ANYBODY and ANY PLACE that deals with manufactured products to be resold.

It sucks but that is why a person should know what they are buying but there is only a small percentage that ever does. The rest are happy Smile

This is not all on Gearbest. As long as they make good that is all that matters.

I would agree with all of this but two things, in the past i have run a retail business. First if someone offers you the exact same product for less you ask yourself why. Why when I negotiated what I thought was the best price am I suddenly being offered the product for less?

And secondly If one company sells more fake products than other companies they are either careless or they know what’s going on.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!

bibihang
bibihang's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: 11/10/2011 - 09:32
Posts: 2445
Location: Malaysia

myhken wrote:
I have discovered that it’s two different customer care support at GB. The people that are on this forum, and the support people.
Via support ticket, I was only offer 100% refund in store credit, or 50% on my paypal account, no offer for new product.

Via Karen (Gearbest) user here at BLF, I got two possibles, refund or new product. So since the Convoy S2+ is a good flashlight, I will try to get new products, and hope the new ones is real.

And you are right about “shit hitting the fan” for some weeks now for GB, for all S2+ and C8 they have shipped the last three-four weeks, are most likely false. So many refund/new product request is going their way now.
And bad PR here on this forum.


Okay, since you choose to get the new products instead of getting the refund, I hope you will understand about the underlying risk better now if you’ve learned something out of your previous experience in this thread,
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41016

Gearbest is willing to look into this issue, which is something encourage-able. But I believe there still come with a certain risk that you will be shipped with fake products because some of the Gearbest staffs really know nothing about the product at all, not that Gearbest intentionally tries to cheat their customers. So if that happens I hope you won’t be angry about it in public again but just keep it to yourself – I’m not saying that it is your fault, but you should understand about the risk better now as a buyer, you are informed already, that’s my point.

marcl
Offline
Last seen: 11 months 1 week ago
Joined: 01/30/2012 - 09:02
Posts: 1780
Location: United Kingdom

bibihang wrote:
myhken wrote:
I have discovered that it’s two different customer care support at GB. The people that are on this forum, and the support people.
Via support ticket, I was only offer 100% refund in store credit, or 50% on my paypal account, no offer for new product.

Via Karen (Gearbest) user here at BLF, I got two possibles, refund or new product. So since the Convoy S2+ is a good flashlight, I will try to get new products, and hope the new ones is real.

And you are right about “shit hitting the fan” for some weeks now for GB, for all S2+ and C8 they have shipped the last three-four weeks, are most likely false. So many refund/new product request is going their way now.
And bad PR here on this forum.


Okay, since you choose to get the new products instead of getting the refund, I hope you will understand about the underlying risk better now if you’ve learned something out of your previous experience in this thread,
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41016

Gearbest is willing to look into this issue, which is something encourage-able. But I believe there still come with a certain risk that you will be shipped with fake products because some of the Gearbest staffs really know nothing about the product at all, not that Gearbest intentionally tries to cheat their customers. So if that happens I hope you won’t be angry about it in public again but just keep it to yourself – I’m not saying that it is your fault, but you should understand about the risk better now as a buyer, you are informed already, that’s my point.

I don’t mind Ken letting us know of his experiences, so long the discussion is calm.

However I would have accepted nothing less than a full refund to my PayPal. Then buy quality products. Especially if you want to sell them. You don’t want to have a house fire on your hands.

Marc

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!

myhken
myhken's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 10 months ago
Joined: 07/03/2015 - 17:20
Posts: 549
Location: Norway

bibihang wrote:

Okay, since you choose to get the new products instead of getting the refund, I hope you will understand about the underlying risk better now if you’ve learned something out of your previous experience in this thread,
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41016

Gearbest is willing to look into this issue, which is something encourage-able. But I believe there still come with a certain risk that you will be shipped with fake products because some of the Gearbest staffs really know nothing about the product at all, not that Gearbest intentionally tries to cheat their customers. So if that happens I hope you won’t be angry about it in public again but just keep it to yourself – I’m not saying that it is your fault, but you should understand about the risk better now as a buyer, you are informed already, that’s my point.

It must be allowed to inform the forum if they still is sending out fake S2+ and/or C8 now after so many weeks they have known?

But, instead of buying S2+ and/or C8, here is a list over flashlights I may buy instead. Some of them I already have got, and have checked them out, and they are real, some I’m waiting for, and some I have not got yet.
And maybe there is other flashlights that should be on that list? http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41088

Kenneth Myhre

bibihang
bibihang's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: 11/10/2011 - 09:32
Posts: 2445
Location: Malaysia

marcl wrote:
I don’t mind Ken letting us know of his experiences, so long the discussion is calm.

I agree with Marc that if the discussion is calm then yes, I am always interested to hear your feedback about the products and services. Smile
myhken
myhken's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 10 months ago
Joined: 07/03/2015 - 17:20
Posts: 549
Location: Norway
bibihang wrote:
marcl wrote:
I don’t mind Ken letting us know of his experiences, so long the discussion is calm.
I agree with Marc that if the discussion is calm then yes, I am always interested to hear your feedback about the products and services. Smile

Have you seen me not be calm, without the one thread where I was so pissed about their trying to censor me and the BLF forum?
I think all of my threads and post (beside that thread) has always been calmed and telling facts.

I will give Gearbest.com a change to correct their errors. If I can get new products thats is real, I’m happy with that. I really like the S2+- But of course, paying Simon is not so much more.
So I give them a change with the first two S2+ now. If I get the other items I have ordered before I got the new items (make sense that I do) then I will maybe ask for a paypal refund, and get the flashlights from Simon.

Kenneth Myhre

bugsy36
bugsy36's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 07/11/2014 - 18:15
Posts: 2475
Location: Florida USA

This thread needs to die. It is not serving any purpose but perpetuating ill feelings towards Gearbest AND even BLF members.

Here are some facts:

  • Simon was invited here by a BLF member to verify fakes and protect his brand that has a good name (name promised not to be mentioned)
  • Gearbest fully cooperated with Simon
  • The Gearbest employee was removed for making the to good to be true purchase and not for unscrupulous behavior (mistakes in China do not get forgiven)
  • There were many many ordered products already in the pipeline which can take as long as 45 days to reach the destination (not that they keep selling them)
  • A new BLF member made many uneducated purchases and then found BLF and then saw his errors (Buyer Beware should always be the rule - know exactly what your buying or accept the risk or better yet....BUY only one to test)
  • Marcl believes he has a fake and is is getting it remedied
  • Mitko believes he may have a couple fake units but would like to buy 10 more because they are not that bad

The point is that the point has been made. Everybody has been warned. There are many Convoy counterfeits out there and Simon already warned us months ago. Anything else is nothing but bashing. We all know that problems can be handled via CSgearbest or Gearbest here on BLF.

Enough....please.

It's the simple things that we take for granted that cost us the most

Ευκαιρία λέει πιάσε με από το μέτωπο γιατί μόλις έχω περάσει δεν θα με πιάσειs

Pages