- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

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Fake XM-L2 found in a Supwildfire thrower.

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t seems than even LB clones are too expensive for chinese flashlights these days… so I guess they sourced an even cheaper LED

Argh. How else can they make it cheaper? I suppose they can fiddle with the phosphor mix. That would change the emitted spectrum.

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looks more like an sst-40 fake to me.

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Fake XM-L2 found in a Supwildfire thrower.
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The above post is misplaced in this thread and close to commercial spam, but the pictures are nice Smile

Dear bhvm, there is a thread for car headlights, you may get response for your bulbs there:
Link: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54717

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djozz wrote:
The above post is misplaced in this thread and close to commercial spam, but the pictures are nice Smile

Dear bhvm, there is a thread for car headlights, you may get response for your bulbs there:
Link: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54717

Dear DJ,
This thread is about Genuine/Fake Cree LEDs so I am giving you some brain food to think on. Its not commercial.

BTW these are not MY bulbs. I am just the reviewer. And my reviews aren’t sponsored crap. It would help to go through the entire thread in above links as I am comparing this bulb to few others. Hence the Explanation TEXT on pics.

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bhvm wrote:
djozz wrote:
The above post is misplaced in this thread and close to commercial spam, but the pictures are nice Smile

Dear bhvm, there is a thread for car headlights, you may get response for your bulbs there:
Link: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54717

Dear DJ,
This thread is about Genuine/Fake Cree LEDs

It’s about fakes actually.
But welcome to BLF.
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bhvm wrote:
djozz wrote:
The above post is misplaced in this thread and close to commercial spam, but the pictures are nice Smile

Dear bhvm, there is a thread for car headlights, you may get response for your bulbs there:
Link: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54717

Dear DJ,
This thread is about Genuine/Fake Cree LEDs so I am giving you some brain food to think on. Its not commercial.

BTW these are not MY bulbs. I am just the reviewer. And my reviews aren’t sponsored crap.


Then I’m mistaken, and sorry about that. I did follow your link and your posts in that automotive forum suggested that you are enthousiastic about the product but also related to the brand. I did not say that your reviews are crap, I just assumed a relationship to the brand. There’s many reviews here on BLF of which the writers are are in various grades related to the sellers of the products they are reviewing, but many are still quality reviews (BLF may be a bit special in that aspect).

My suggestion posting in the car headlight thread was well-meant by the way, I think it is a good idea Smile

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djozz wrote:
The above post is misplaced in this thread and close to commercial spam, but the pictures are nice Smile

Dear bhvm, there is a thread for car headlights, you may get response for your bulbs there:
Link: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54717

Dear DJ,
This thread is about Genuine/Fake Cree LEDs so I am giving you some brain food to think on. Its not commercial.

BTW these are not MY bulbs. I am just the reviewer. And my reviews aren’t sponsored crap.


Then I’m mistaken, and sorry about that. I did follow your link and your posts in that automotive forum suggested that you are enthousiastic about the product but also related to the brand. I did not say that your reviews are crap, I just assumed a relationship to the brand. There’s many reviews here on BLF of which the writers are are in various grades related to the sellers of the products they are reviewing, but many are still quality reviews (BLF may be a bit special in that aspect).

My suggestion posting in the car headlight thread was well-meant by the way, I think it is a good idea Smile

1. Sure I would like to take your idea forward and participate more on BLF. I have completed research with some of the Top research teams with respect to LED tints (CCT, CRI, Warm on Dim, Dual tone etc).

2. Am also quite interested in knowing how my posts ended up sounding ‘Brand affiliated’ so I may mend that. Because I purchase all my review units by hard earned cash. Absolutely no Brand patroning. However I also do not step back from suggesting which brands worked well with me and which did’nt. So that many people may follow my purchases.

3. My Specialty is that I keep updating my reviews 2~5~7 years long. I do have some long term data on (limited) products. Feel free to drop me a query on that.

Have a nice day!

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Does anyone knows if Coast uses a real/fake LED? I have a hp7 and looking at the hp17, 970 lumens and hp14, 629 lumens.

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Does anyone knows if Coast uses a real/fake LED? I have a hp7 and looking at the hp17, 970 lumens and hp14, 629 lumens.

The couple Coast lights i have use real Cree LEDs. Coast is a division brand of LED-Lenser, and been known to use real brand name LED emitters.

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DBSAR wrote:
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Does anyone knows if Coast uses a real/fake LED? I have a hp7 and looking at the hp17, 970 lumens and hp14, 629 lumens.

The couple Coast lights i have use real Cree LEDs. Coast is a division brand of LED-Lenser, and been known to use real brand name LED emitters.

I was looking through the lens and I couldn’t see any marking or lines on the LED. It’s hard to see without taking anything apart, I’m not going to take anything apart with my luck nothing will go back together right.

Thanks for the reply!

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if its a fake then a good one, looks pretty much like a XML2

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Is it fake?

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Shin wrote:
Is it fake?

Square wire pads

This is fake

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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g_sintornillos wrote:
Shin wrote:
Is it fake?

Square wire pads

This is fake

Thx!

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Oh man that is a very well done fake indeed

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Definitely not a genuine Cree. Likely a latticebright XM-L2 knockoff.

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sorry i can’t speak english. Thx!

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Spotted about 90% of the local toolstore’s cheap end headlights with “CREE T6 LED” to be fakes.
Nice…

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CheapThrills wrote:
Spotted about 90% of the local toolstore’s cheap end headlights with “CREE T6 LED” to be fakes. Nice…

I’d like to ask how does a fake Cree T6 LED look like?

I’ve got a couple of generic “XML T6” LED flashlights, but I don’t know how to differentiate since I don’t have a known-real XML T6 to compare it with.

I’ve tried taking picture of the LED, but my entry-level digital camera doesn’t focus too well, this is my best shot yet:

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@ d_t_a , very fake and bad performing.

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So, is the above fake XML-T6 a LatticeBright or a LB clone?

Have another one to help identify:
This is from an UltraFire UK68, supposedly Cree Q5 LED:
(pardon again, it’s very tiny and my camera is having a hard time focusing on it.. )

(The glass/dome seems to look quite dirty from the pic…)

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d_t_a wrote:
So, is the above fake XML-T6 a LatticeBright or a LB clone?

Yes definitely likely a litticebright low quality knock off of a Cree.

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d_t_a wrote:
So, is the above fake XML-T6 a LatticeBright or a LB clone?

Have another one to help identify:
This is from an UltraFire UK68, supposedly Cree Q5 LED:
(pardon again, it’s very tiny and my camera is having a hard time focusing on it.. )

(The glass/dome seems to look quite dirty from the pic…)


Fake XP-E
Possibly LB

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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Problems with OP photos

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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g_sintornillos wrote:
Problems with OP photos
I will work on fixing that this weekend. (the photobucket change screwed over all of us)

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There’s no hurry
It was just to warn
A friend wanted to know how to recognize a fake

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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Hi.

I bought a cheap light at a local store and for the fun of it, I took a look at the led to check if it was cree or fake. I’m unable to see the pictures in the OP, and even haven gone though all the post in this thread, I’m unable to know exactly what to look for. The soldering looks to be round, indicating it to be cree however the print+led isn’t ‘waved’ (in lack of a better word) indicating it to be fake? The print itself doesnt state CREE but BG so I assume it is a fake. I would just like to be able to tell it just by looking at the led itself.

Thanks!

Edit:
I took a different light I had laying around and did the same on that. The led looks almost the same (round solderings, no waved print/dome) but the print looks nicer. Dont know that to make of it. Anyone ?

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steendp wrote:
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Fake for me
The core is too small

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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