REVIEW: ThruNite TN36 UT (4 x 18650 | 3 x XHP70) - PART 1 & 2

In-depth review of ThruNite's latest powerhouse, the TN36 UT featuring a trio of Cree's XHP70 emitters from their SC5 Technology line. 7300 lumens... 'nuff said (for now). Please stay tuned for Part 2 which will cover a bunch of measurements and runtime charts.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/dlkZzxxCWeE

Just wrapped up the runtime testing and below are the results (the current measurements will come later).

RUNTIME & OUTPUT

The relevant battery stats are provided above each runtime graph along with:
- voltage of the battery at the start and end of the test
- current draw (to come)
- actual runtime using ANSI FL1 (first in HR and then in M; so for the TN36UT read it as 1.4hrs or 83min)
- lumens measured on my PVC LMD @ 30 seconds (calibrated with TN36 on medium mode w/Extech HD450 in 40K range) as well as the average lumens of the entire run
- the temperature: ambient, the head/fins at start and the max it reached (USB fan was used on lowest setting for all runs)

Mini TN30

- particular sample is a potential overperformer (I will redo lumens measurements, once I get my custom glass for my PVC LMD but for now, the consistency is within ThruNite's lights here) and I measured 3520lms @ 30 sec (recall that ANSI FL1 requires an average of three lights and for those who would make an argument that LED light variance should be negligible... as a FYI I've measured two of Nitecore's TM26 w/>10% difference in output)
- is capable of reasonable sustained output on Turbo, or as much as is possible for a light of this output and emitter (XM-L2)
- gets as hot as the TN36 UT with max temps hitting 157F (measured at head); at this temp 2nd degree burns are possible with contact of the bare metal for 1 second or so and 3rd degree burns for 2 seconds; USE OF CONTINUOUS TURBO MODE SHOULD BE EXECUTED WITH DUE CAUTION!
- runtime achieved was 16 minutes shy of mfg specs but caveat is that the cells only charged to 4.19v/ea ahead of this run (however, it's unknown what cells mfg used)

TN36

- particular sample has extremely aggressive ITC, output nose-dives immediately after turn on (max captured at turn on was actually 7.1K lms) thus output measured at 30 seconds was only 5830lms
- will then enter a decently regulated mode for the rest of the run averaging 2390lms
- the temp probe must have been a little off for this run as I actually measured the barrel at around 115F (46C) approximately 2hrs in
- runtime far exceeded published specs (3hrs vs 2) since it never sustained Turbo mode meaningfully
- will tear head apart to exam what might be causing this

TN36 UT

- as with the Mini TN30, this particular sample is also an potential outperformer with 7850lms measured at 30 seconds
- output curve is actually similar as well (but of course with a much steeper decline given the difference in capability) thus leading me to believe it does try to sustain Turbo mode
- this does come at a cost of extreme heat with max temp reached of 160F (again, please use caution running Turbo mode continuously)
- runtime achieved was 12 minutes under published specs (again, it's unknown what cells mfg used)

Common to all three lights

- will just suddenly cut out immediately once the batteries are depleted (avg. resting voltage measured ~3 min or so after testing were ~2.9V for each cell), however the Red low battery warning LED should give you ample warning in advance of this
- all feature excellent current control circuits (just shame TN36 was hampered by aggressive ITC)
- current draw for electronic switch is so low as to be no concern (~14.6
µA); to put that into perspective (and leaving the self-discharge out of the pic), calculated stand-by time would be ~27yrs on 3400mAh cells!


PART 2

http://www.youtube.com/embed/qJph_0kPJ7M
LUMENS & THROW MEASUREMENTS

Specs in Blue section is as per Mfg; figures in parentheses are my corrections of calculation errors by mfg (i.e.: 42kcd calculates to 410m beam distance and not 440m) | section in Red are my measurements on Extech HD450 (non-NIST)

- as previously disclaimed, my lux measurements tend to be on the lower side
- even so, nice surprise here is that the Mini TN30 measured a bit better than Mfg spec (26.45k cd / 325m vs. 17.64k / 266m)
- the older TN30 XM-L2 also did a little better as well (45.85k cd / 428m vs. 42k cd / 410m)
- TN36 with the funky ITC came in a bit worse (not surprisingly)
- TN36 UT also came in a bit under despite outperforming in lumens measurements

I like your reviews & looking forward for the part 2!!

Awesome comprehensive review!!!

Nice review! Thanks!

I missed your reviews. Great to see you back in the saddle. Looking forward to the many fine future reviews.

7300 lumens. haha. Not loading at work. Subed to chk at home. Thanks

Oh BTW any news on when the 3C aka NW tint will be out?

Thx guys! Just waiting on a few camera parts and then I'll hit up part two. In meanwhile, please let me know if you have any q's or if there's anything specific you'd like covered in part 2.

@Ronin42 - I've asked my contact re: availability of NW, will let you know as soon as I get reply.

I’m waiting for the part 2 of the review.

Had a set back (broke bones in right toe) so things have been slow going but currently conducting run-time testing and it seems that the TN36 UT is capable of "sustained" output like the Mini TN30. Reason for quotes is that it's not fully regulated and will have a steady continuous decline but there is no distinct step down until after ~10 minutes or so (could be the ITC stepping in); even then, it's a moderate decline and not a huge step like say from Turbo to High. However, the temp as measured at the last groove around the head is ~160F at this point (with a small USB fan running at lowest setting putting out a mild breeze & ambient temp of room ~79F). Suffice to say, discretion is required running in Turbo mode continuously.

I've also revised my lumens measurement for high-output lights and am now using Nitecore's TM26 (original 3500lms XM-L model) on L4 to calibrate my PVC LMD to 1700 lms after it settles down and runs in perfectly flat regulation. I feel this is more "accurate" for the larger multi-emitter lights. I should have Runtime chart up tomorrow.

UPDATE: Lumens measurements for runtime testing below were done with TN36 as calibration light since my current set up has glass sitting on top of the PVC LMD and with the step down in the throat, it favors throwers. Will redo all measurements once I get a custom glass and tweak my setup.

Part 2 now added to OP. Lots of material and measurements (which may be a little dry for non-data geeks so please use TOC in description section to navigate to section of interest).

Lumens and throw measurements from Part 2 added as chart to OP w/brief commentary (it's a tad small to respect those with smaller screens but click on pic for full size).

Been a while since the Thrunite TN36-UT release, so… would you guys still recommend this as the greatest flooder (for it’s price range)? I found it today at a great price (130:money_mouth_face: with 4x16850 included, and i was wondering if the heat issue in Turbo is much better handled on other flashlights. I have to find another better flooder just because i bought a Manker MK34 (which is supposed to be 8000 lumens), and it’s not even half that. Plus it only does the Turbo for 30 seconds.

I was also looking for Olight X7 Marauder (9000 lumens), but that Turbo S is annoying (have to double click and double click again), plus it’s also for just 2,5 minutes and then drops to an ugly 1800 lumens. And it costs about double the price for TN36-UT. So, what would you recommend? Thanks!