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So it is not just ten cents worth of engraving then, huh?

You also left out that amps are going to be cranked up as well.

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too pricey for a budget thrower for me

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crnkin wrote:
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Its a bit of a joke reducing a retail price by $5 and adding 10 cents of engraving and calling it limited edition.
I’m not aware of this happening. Which GB are you referring to?

Hey Krono.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41772

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/MAXTOCH-Sniper-M24-Lighter-Versi...LED-Base-Longer-Shooting-Distance/314381_1769281159.html

Retail = $68.50
GB= $63.50

Difference = $5, but only if you buy 50 units.

Granted, you get an XPL HI swapped in for a U3.

Chris

That’s the GB I have going so, maybe can shed a bit of light.

In addition to the XPL HI and engraving, there is also the higher amp driver going in the light, free tracking included in the price (which is usually an extra charge, most places, from what I understand), (and if wanted) the holster for half price and the remote pressure switch for half price, with the light purchase (shipped together with light). Also if higher numbers are reached the price reduces more.

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I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650 (26650 is too bulky, we're talking throw not runtime, which is still fine with a 18650 btw), 55mm smooth reflector, no side switch and removable brass pill for easy modding, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6 Wink

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djozz wrote:

I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650, 55mm smooth reflector, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6 Wink

Something like that sounds good too.

I might even be in for it, if a GB is started on something like you are talking about.

I was just trying to clear the air with the GB I have going being a little more to it than an emitter change and some lettering is all.

I just hate to see a lot of tension over this stuff, when there is really no need for it to be, and each person has their own ideas and preferences of what their ideal light is, so I am not judging anyone for what they want.

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robo819 wrote:
I just hate to see a lot of tension over this stuff, when there is really no need for it to be, and each person has their own ideas and preferences of what their ideal light is, so I am not judging anyone for what they want.

Agree! And in the end all I can do is give an educated opinion, and then happily resign to the real decision maker on what kind of flashlight this is going to be: the person dedicated enough to make contact with sellers+manufacturers and starts getting the light made.

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djozz wrote:

I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650 (26650 is too bulky, we’re talking throw not runtime, which is still fine with a 18650 btw), 55mm smooth reflector, no side switch and removable brass pill for easy modding, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6 Wink

You have a great idea here with the lego, how about this;

A Group buy of just a Flashlight head that can lego onto a Convoy C8, or the EE X6.
Both of these tubes are of good quality with good tight threading.
Why keep buying entire flashlights when all you want is bigger/smaller head with better Driver’s and emitters?

Shipping costs would be less, and more importantly all the money can be spent on quality internals, brass retainers, thick walls, quality reflector and good AR glass.
Food for thought.
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Muto wrote:
djozz wrote:

I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650 (26650 is too bulky, we’re talking throw not runtime, which is still fine with a 18650 btw), 55mm smooth reflector, no side switch and removable brass pill for easy modding, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6 Wink

You have a great idea here with the lego, how about this;

A Group buy of just a Flashlight head that can lego onto a Convoy C8, or the EE X6.
Both of these tubes are of good quality with good tight threading.
Why keep buying entire flashlights when all you want is bigger/smaller head with better Driver’s and emitters?

Shipping costs would be less, and more importantly all the money can be spent on quality internals, brass retainers, thick walls, quality reflector and good AR glass.
Food for thought.
Later,
Keith

Yes, I like that idea. Kind of like Solarforce used to sell (maybe still do) heads for their L2 lights.

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I prefer single 26650 or triple 18650 for a big thrower. The big or multiple cells help ensure driving it is not a problem and because it uses such a big heavy reflector, it feels more balanced.

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Thing is: a reflector plus housing does not have to be heavy at all, it is just aluminium, see what Thrunite and Fenix do with the weight.

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djozz wrote:

I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650 (26650 is too bulky, we’re talking throw not runtime, which is still fine with a 18650 btw), 55mm smooth reflector, no side switch and removable brass pill for easy modding, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6 Wink

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I pretty much agree with all of this, but will also say that a 1×26650 body would feel good in my hand. – But, I am willing to go along with the crowd on whatever they decide. Smile

This would be for a Compact thrower.

Already got the Midrange Thrower covered, because I took Martin up on his Group Buy for the Olight SR52 HI – It was shipped yesterday by DHL!… Only other time I have used DHL was for a K40M (Banggood), and it was 5 days – Payment to Door!

CAUTION! – The use of a Premium shipper will almost Guarantee that Customs will want their share from you! Sad

For me being in the US, if it’s a Flashlight and it’s less than $200 it’s Duty Free!

YMMV Sad So please check here first!:

http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/ – Better to be safe than sorry.
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So that leaves me open to the suggestion by djozz for a Compact thrower, and for a…

…Custom, BLF Big Head Courui D01! – You know… The one with the Extra Large custom KD reflector? – I would be in for one of those with perhaps a XHP-50? – Or Not… I’m sure that the XP-L HI would give better throw, but 3000 lumens from the XHP-50 Would be nice. Smile

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/39119

The XHP-70 would give 5000 lumens, but at the expense of a larger hot spot… Sort of taking it out of the ‘thrower’ category, and into the Blaster realm, relative to the smaller XHP-50 or XP-L HI . – JMHO.

What do you guys think?

Now for a Pocket thrower? – I have a P60 XP-L HI V3 2B coming from RMM… Will be here Saturday. – It’s going into a Solarforce L2M. – 1×18650 or 1× 18350/16340 if you want! – So it’s a Shorty too! Smile

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=2&id...

Thanks guys, and Have a Great Day!
-Chuck

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I think everyone should have at least one Xhp70 light. I have one running 7+ amps in a Solarforce host and it still blows me away everytime I switch it on, lighting up everything as far as I can see where I go to test my flashlights.
I use protected cells and they handle it without issue. I dont know the actual distance as there are multiple tree lines but nothing can hide in the swathe of light. Thats with a 55mm reflector.
My mate who has no lights at all said “omg,I need to get one of these when he pressed the power switch.

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I think it’s time to repost this.
Looks like a decent candidate for a BLF thrower. (http://www.shenzhen-wholesale.com/cree-l2-led-980lm-5-mode-flashlight-to...)

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djozz wrote:

Personally I would not be very interested in a big light, but in a small and lightweight light, so 3×18650 is too chunky. For me a maximal driven 1×18650 big reflector thrower would be preferred.

Here you go. Smile

http://szobm.en.alibaba.com/product/60152730337-200275902/Wholesale_OEM_LED_Flashlight_Torch_for_tracking_XM_L2_LED_1200_lumen_powerful_Fast_Track_Flashlight.html

http://www.szobm.cn/product/60152730337-200275902/Wholesale_OEM_LED_Flashlight_Torch_for_tracking_XM_L2_LED_1200_lumen_powerful_Fast_Track_Flashlight.html




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bugsy wrote:
I prefer single 26650 or triple 18650 for a big thrower. The big or multiple cells help ensure driving it is not a problem and because it uses such a big heavy reflector, it feels more balanced.

I’m good with 26650 as well, still like the Convoy’s or maybe the tube from the Xtind.
With Convoy working on a new L2, maybe Simon can whip up something special?
L2 is nice because it already has 2 piece battery tube and nice brass fittings.

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Shenzhen wholesale would not provide a sample unless paid for. When shipping was added as well, it wasnt so good.

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The X6 is here, pricey, but the head diam is 54 mm: http://www.banggood.com/On-The-Road-X6M-CREE-XM-L2-T6-1000LM-T6-1AT6-3C-LED-Flashlight-p-920455.html

For that amount ($55) you could almost buy a Maxtoch M12 Mission.
With braided springs and dedomed Led (on stock board) mine did 155Kcd already.
With LD1 driver and XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch DTP board it does 240Kcd.

But: way to pricey for a BLF GB.

I would go with Djozz for the Aliexpress 1 * 18650 light.

Grtz
Nico

P.S. My Courui D01 does 345Kcd (braided springs, LD2 driver, copper pill, XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch board).

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djozz wrote:

I still prefer a BLF thrower which is compact, 18650 (26650 is too bulky, we’re talking throw not runtime, which is still fine with a 18650 btw), 55mm smooth reflector, no side switch and removable brass pill for easy modding, preferably lego-able with the EE X6 or to our new BLF-standard: the BLF-A6 Wink

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I’d be interested in just the lego-able head for say $25 for 100kcd up to $50 for 200kcd, depending on what other features are thrown in (pun intended Smile ).

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thijsco19 wrote:
I think it’s time to repost this. Looks like a decent candidate for a BLF thrower. (http://www.shenzhen-wholesale.com/cree-l2-led-980lm-5-mode-flashlight-to...)
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djozz wrote:

Personally I would not be very interested in a big light, but in a small and lightweight light, so 3×18650 is too chunky. For me a maximal driven 1×18650 big reflector thrower would be preferred.

Here you go. Smile

http://szobm.en.alibaba.com/product/60152730337-200275902/Wholesale_OEM_LED_Flashlight_Torch_for_tracking_XM_L2_LED_1200_lumen_powerful_Fast_Track_Flashlight.html

http://www.szobm.cn/product/60152730337-200275902/Wholesale_OEM_LED_Flashlight_Torch_for_tracking_XM_L2_LED_1200_lumen_powerful_Fast_Track_Flashlight.html




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So how much would you pay for this with an XP-L HI and a driver like the BLF A6 (FET +1 7135)? I am thinking this would be a good candidate for a GB…

How about a GB for just this as a host? What would you pay for a host like this?

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This light ready to shine?

I would pay $35. – Do you think that is reasonable, or am I out of line?

Thanks,
-Chuck

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Nicolaas wrote:
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The X6 is here, pricey, but the head diam is 54 mm: http://www.banggood.com/On-The-Road-X6M-CREE-XM-L2-T6-1000LM-T6-1AT6-3C-LED-Flashlight-p-920455.html

For that amount ($55) you could almost buy a Maxtoch M12 Mission.
With braided springs and dedomed Led (on stock board) mine did 155Kcd already.
With LD1 driver and XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch DTP board it does 240Kcd.

But: way to pricey for a BLF GB.

I would go with Djozz for the Aliexpress 1 * 18650 light.

Grtz
Nico

P.S. My Courui D01 does 345Kcd (braided springs, LD2 driver, copper pill, XM L2 U2 dd on Maxtoch board).

That’s just an hd2010 copy so could go that route potentially for this rough ~$35ish price point, but I think the point is to be slightly different than what is currently available

Chris

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So, Cree has made a new LED – perfect for a Pocketthrower!

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42059

So we don’t need no big ass reflector.

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chuckhov wrote:
This light ready to shine?

I would pay $35. – Do you think that is reasonable, or am I out of line?

Thanks,
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I would say somewhere between 30 – 40$. Depending on the groupbuy discount.
But we can not really say anything before we know its quality.
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What about a modded Warsun MX900 ?

A good thrower, double switch, works with 1/2/3 18650 so perfect for runtime, compact, budget light (25$), beautiful style.
It’s a bad idea?

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It looks great but the head isn’t much bigger that that of a C8 (48mm compared to 45mm).

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ReManG wrote:
So how much would you pay for this with an XP-L HI and a driver like the BLF A6 (FET +1 7135)? I am thinking this would be a good candidate for a GB... How about a GB for just this as a host? What would you pay for a host like this?

I bought something like this (57mm head diameter, 49mm reflector, 1x18650) but with XM-L  (was the best led back then) and crappy driver at dx a few years ago for 18 dollars, so with good driver and XP-L Hi it should still be able to sell for 25 dollars shipped. Just the host: under 20 dollars.

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So, Cree has made a new LED – perfect for a Pocketthrower!

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42059

So we don’t need no big ass reflector.

Well, that would depend on a few facts:

1) how much current can it handle
2) what is the light intensity (candela per square mm)

And bear in mind that this Led would give you a thrower with a pencil beam if fitted in a decent size light.
Kinda like the old skool Solarforce Skyline 1.

SO: DJOZZ PLS BY AND TEST FOR US :bigsmile: Wink

Grtz
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Manx wrote:
What about a modded Warsun MX900 ? A good thrower, double switch, works with 1/2/3 18650 so perfect for runtime, compact, budget light (25$), beautiful style. It's a bad idea? here is the link: "Warsun MX900 at Banggood":http://www.banggood.com/Warsun-MX900-Cree-XML2-5Mode-1198-Lumens-High-Po...

Actually the reflector is exactly the same size as a deep C8. Another bad design problem is the poor blocking LED spacer in Warsun's - it can be fixed of course, but you have to raise the MCPCB, etc., and the Warsun owner is a pain to deal with - I know... Fully modded the right way, it's a great light with more heat sinking than a typical C8, but, you do have to consider it right there with other C8's for throw performance.

I got a couple, worked on a couple more.

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it looks great but the head isn’t much bigger that that of a C8 (48mm compared to 45mm)
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Actually the reflector is exactly the same size as a deep C8. Another bad design problem is the poor blocking LED spacer in Warsun’s – it can be fixed of course, but you have to raise the MCPCB, etc., and the Warsun owner is a pain to deal with – I know… Fully modded the right way, it’s a great light with more heat sinking than a typical C8, but, you do have to consider it right there with other C8’s for throw performance. I got a couple, worked on a couple more.

You are right; I remember all the shit about… Sad
If only it was a little more pleasent to us…(I mean the boss of the brand)…a flashlight with a lot of potential denied by some issues :_(

But I remember there was a deal with Warsun too, and I read about some little improvement on the light. A sort of version 2.0 (there are some good review on banggood by users)

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Looks like this is still a longways off ,till then I need a Best bang for the buck thrower , ideas and opinions welcome ?

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I cant believe this thread has been silent for more than a month :(!

I want budget thrower, single 18650 that could kick ass of my stock A60 :D!

Just trying to bump this thread up!

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