That I _can_ do. I'll give you the numbers once it arrives.
Guessing a good chance a 26700 will fit with him saying protected 26650's fit. I messaged Simon just now for a host or discount on the fullup light. Really like the looks. A quality and better HD2010 but with an even tougher look.
I would think they'd sell at $30-$35 for what it is. Suggested improvements:
XHP-50/70 options (driver or battery config changes)
add some tech, like e-switch/micro USB charging, etc.
It sounds like Simon likes the idea of a 2 cell tube as opposed to an extension and it’s looking good for him having it manufactured along with an OP reflector. He used the Jax X6 Hunter as a reference to be sure he knew what I was getting at for the double length tube and OP reflector. I told him that was closer to what we were looking for just without the “tactical” ring near the tail which he agreed was useless. No promises yet but we’re heading down the right road. As far as discounts go Simon is offering 15% off to any BLF members. You just need to send him a message through his Ali store. He also has the host available for $35.12 though he has not yet added a link for it. That’s another one you have to message him him to purchase until he has time to update the site with a new link. He said the 15% discount is good for both host and complete light. I think he’s a little overextended right now so please be patient. Simon always makes it worth the wait IMO.
Well - if you can pass this along, I really like his Blue S2+ SS switch design improvement. It would be really cool if he would sell these in red, blue and green S2+ hosts in a shorty version.
Is this just for the L2, or does it apply to all of his lights – M1 – C8, etc?
Thank you,
-Chuck
He has only told me I could offer that for the blue S2+, L2 and L2 host. You ask but I don’t want to push it myself. His lights are already a great value IMHO. He’s not publishing these as official discount codes he’s just taking care of his friends and fans here at BLF.
Well – if you can pass this along, I really like his Blue S2+ SS switch design improvement. It would be really cool if he would sell these in red, blue and green S2+ hosts in a shorty version.
I will. The green is on hold while we wait for a darker sample from the manufacturer. As far as the red and blue shorty host if you just buy a standard host and ask him to add in a single short tube you’re only talking about an extra $2.45 and then you have a single light you can swap from short to long whenever you feel like it. I don’t want to make promises for Simon but I’m fairly certain he would have no problem doing that.
Well – if you can pass this along, I really like his Blue S2+ SS switch design improvement. It would be really cool if he would sell these in red, blue and green S2+ hosts in a shorty version.
I will. The green is on hold while we wait for a darker sample from the manufacturer. As far as the red and blue shorty host if you just buy a standard host and ask him to add in a single short tube you’re only talking about an extra $2.45 and then you have a single light you can swap from short to long whenever you feel like it. I don’t want to make promises for Simon but I’m fairly certain he would have no problem doing that.
I think that’s the most economical option, coz with an extra $2.45 you have the option of using the 18650 or 18350 tube for your flashlight
It sounds like Simon likes the idea of a 2 cell tube as opposed to an extension and it’s looking good for him having it manufactured along with an OP reflector. He used the Jax X6 Hunter as a reference to be sure he knew what I was getting at for the double length tube and OP reflector. I told him that was closer to what we were looking for just without the “tactical” ring near the tail which he agreed was useless. No promises yet but we’re heading down the right road. As far as discounts go Simon is offering 15% off to any BLF members. You just need to send him a message through his Ali store. He also has the host available for $35.12 though he has not yet added a link for it. That’s another one you have to message him him to purchase until he has time to update the site with a new link. He said the 15% discount is good for both host and complete light. I think he’s a little overextended right now so please be patient. Simon always makes it worth the wait IMO.
The tactical ring on the X6 is removable. Useless it is not, With such a big light as the X6 the tactical ring is a great hand stop, for when you let it slip in your hand to get to the push button, in a hurry! I have 5 off them modded differently and really use the tactical ring for this purpose, it beats using 2 hands Just my 2cent!
Another thing I would like to see and feel is a little more aggressive knurling. Like the Jax X6 with medium knurling, could stand a more robust knurling. :~ Let’s face it people you will not be EDC’ing this one. :bigsmile: And with the XHP70 pumping out so much heat, these lights are better suited for cold weather use, like in Search and Rescue, spotting for critter’s, Hunting, Ice fishing or any other outdoor activity. Where the use of gloves will be needed. Real use in a real world not sitting on some shelf going looky what I got!! Again just my 2cent!!!
I'm gonna order the shorty tubes along with an L2. Really like'n the newer design of the SS switch (2nd gen?) that's in the blue ones. Not sure if the red's got updated to the new switch?
Yes... Well, I think I saw them somewhere... The 2nd gen sticks out further - easier to engage. Not sure of any other changes with it. Might be early in the big blue S2+ thread. I got both but no pics, but held them up against each other and saw the same thing - sticks out further (little) making it easier to switch. Doesn't effect tailstanding - still tailstands well.
Hey thanks for posting that link. I got a message from Simon this morning that he was adding it but it wasn’t there the last time I looked. I’ll add it to the OP later today.
Yes… Well, I think I saw them somewhere… The 2nd gen sticks out further - easier to engage. Not sure of any other changes with it. Might be early in the big blue S2+ thread. I got both but no pics, but held them up against each other and saw the same thing – sticks out further (little) making it easier to switch. Doesn’t effect tailstanding – still tailstands well.
Another thing I would like to see and feel is a little more aggressive knurling. Like the Jax X6 with medium knurling, could stand a more robust knurling. :~ Let’s face it people you will not be EDC’ing this one. :bigsmile: And with the XHP70 pumping out so much heat, these lights are better suited for cold weather use, like in Search and Rescue, spotting for critter’s, Hunting, Ice fishing or any other outdoor activity. Where the use of gloves will be needed. Real use in a real world not sitting on some shelf going looky what I got!! Again just my 2cent!!!
All 4 cents from your posts noted. I hadn’t though about the “grip stop” or “slip stop” function of the tactical ring so I have to retract my “useless” comment. It doesn’t look like it’s removable on the Jax but I’m only going by pictures. I’m not sure if it’s enough for me to want it on the L2 but you make a good point. I can tell you first hand this beast is heavy. I just got my stock L2 from Simon this morning. All I had time to do is charge a cell and light up a shop wall so far but I can tell you the beam was much brighter than I expected from a stock light with a very tight hot spot. In fact it’s the tightest hot spot I’ve personally seen from a dome-on emitter. I’ll report back once I get a chance to use this thing at night but so far I’m quite impressed. This thing really throws! :bigsmile:
Another thing I would like to see and feel is a little more aggressive knurling. Like the Jax X6 with medium knurling, could stand a more robust knurling. :~ Let’s face it people you will not be EDC’ing this one. :bigsmile: And with the XHP70 pumping out so much heat, these lights are better suited for cold weather use, like in Search and Rescue, spotting for critter’s, Hunting, Ice fishing or any other outdoor activity. Where the use of gloves will be needed. Real use in a real world not sitting on some shelf going looky what I got!! Again just my 2cent!!!
When I was reading through my old messages from Simon, he said that he will be making a XHP version in the future. Let’s hope that it will have a one piece tube like the Jax X6. Or better yet, have a larger head too. J)
I can’t make any promises about a bigger head but I’m fairly certain the one piece tube is going to happen. I will do my best to make sure of it. I took my new L2 outside with what I figured was my best comparison light. My comparison light is a favorite of mine… a XinTD C8 with spring bypass in the tail, FET driver (Wights A17DD-S08) XM-L2 U3 1A (dome on) on a 20mm Noctigon putting out 1580 at the start and 1525 lumens at 30 seconds in turbo and pulling 4.84A at the tail on a freshly charged LG HE2. The lumen numbers are from a trusted, calibrated light sphere owned by a good friend. I don’t have one myself so my comparison is my eyes only. My New L2 is running on the only 26650 I own which is a King Kong 4000 mAh ICR26650 also freshly charged. When I took them outside (I live far from the city, nice and dark) to my naked eye the L2 probably puts out a few less lumens but has a noticeably tighter hotspot and throws further. I’m also much happier with this driver than any other Convoy I own. The 3 modes are very well configured. The low is not moon but it is lower than standard low, medium is just what it should be and the high is sweet. I also tested the hidden strobe which worked perfectly and was not once triggered by accident in an hour of fiddling. I am honestly far more impressed with the stock form than I expected to be. In my opinion this light has HUGE modding potential. It will be even better IMO with the double 26650 tube. When some of you skilled flashlight builders have at this thing it’s going to be absolutely amazing! I’ve always been a fan of Simon’s work but this one exceeded my expectations. I’m looking forward to a few more expert opinions. :bigsmile:
I’m fairly certain the one piece tube is going to happen. I will do my best to make sure of it.
So that cuts out the option of any single cell builds, 2x series only.
Why would you say that? Nobody is asking him to stop making the existing host, just that he add a double cell tube option for those that want it. I sure do. Like KawiBoy1428 said. This is not an EDC light. It’s heavy. Built like a tank. IMO because of the massive yet beautifully styled head the tube seems a little short. Large hands will find they need more to grip and I think it will just overall balance the light much better. Don’t get me wrong, I love the existing design…but I will love a longer tube even more.
Once you get yours a simple measure with a ruler should work
My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03
Major Projects: Illuminated Tailcap, TripleDown/TripleStack Driver
That I can do. I’ll give you the numbers once it arrives.
I think I will wait till he brings out the updated L2. Or when he offers a (light) orange peel reflector with 2cell tube or extension in host form.
Last week I’ve build a convoy c8 with a xpl HI an fet + 7135 driver, so I’m covered right now :bigsmile: .
So tempted, it’s a very nice looking light, but I’m in so many group buys….
Any set time frame for the host to be available?
I will just go slight off topic here – Im waiting for the next year when he makes a headlamp, that should be a hit :D!
Regarding L2 – looking forwards for improved version.
Its now a couple days later and it was bought 2 times. Not really record breaking.
I’m still considering one, but like DB i’m also in a couple GB’s.
Any news on the host/OP reflector/2cell tube?
Guessing a good chance a 26700 will fit with him saying protected 26650's fit. I messaged Simon just now for a host or discount on the fullup light. Really like the looks. A quality and better HD2010 but with an even tougher look.
I would think they'd sell at $30-$35 for what it is. Suggested improvements:
It sounds like Simon likes the idea of a 2 cell tube as opposed to an extension and it’s looking good for him having it manufactured along with an OP reflector. He used the Jax X6 Hunter as a reference to be sure he knew what I was getting at for the double length tube and OP reflector. I told him that was closer to what we were looking for just without the “tactical” ring near the tail which he agreed was useless. No promises yet but we’re heading down the right road. As far as discounts go Simon is offering 15% off to any BLF members. You just need to send him a message through his Ali store. He also has the host available for $35.12 though he has not yet added a link for it. That’s another one you have to message him him to purchase until he has time to update the site with a new link. He said the 15% discount is good for both host and complete light. I think he’s a little overextended right now so please be patient. Simon always makes it worth the wait IMO.
Well - if you can pass this along, I really like his Blue S2+ SS switch design improvement. It would be really cool if he would sell these in red, blue and green S2+ hosts in a shorty version.
“Simon is offering 15% off to any BLF members.”
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Hi,
Is this just for the L2, or does it apply to all of his lights – M1 – C8, etc?
Thank you,
-Chuck
He has only told me I could offer that for the blue S2+, L2 and L2 host. You ask but I don’t want to push it myself. His lights are already a great value IMHO. He’s not publishing these as official discount codes he’s just taking care of his friends and fans here at BLF.
Thank you,
-Chuck
I will. The green is on hold while we wait for a darker sample from the manufacturer. As far as the red and blue shorty host if you just buy a standard host and ask him to add in a single short tube you’re only talking about an extra $2.45 and then you have a single light you can swap from short to long whenever you feel like it. I don’t want to make promises for Simon but I’m fairly certain he would have no problem doing that.
I think that’s the most economical option, coz with an extra $2.45 you have the option of using the 18650 or 18350 tube for your flashlight
The tactical ring on the X6 is removable. Useless it is not, With such a big light as the X6 the tactical ring is a great hand stop, for when you let it slip in your hand to get to the push button, in a hurry! I have 5 off them modded differently and really use the tactical ring for this purpose, it beats using 2 hands Just my 2cent!
KB1428 “Live Life WOT”
Another thing I would like to see and feel is a little more aggressive knurling.
Like the Jax X6 with medium knurling, could stand a more robust knurling. :~ Let’s face it people you will not be EDC’ing this one. :bigsmile: And with the XHP70 pumping out so much heat, these lights are better suited for cold weather use, like in Search and Rescue, spotting for critter’s, Hunting, Ice fishing or any other outdoor activity. Where the use of gloves will be needed. 
Real use in a real world not sitting on some shelf going looky what I got!! 
Again just my 2cent!!! 
KB1428 “Live Life WOT”
I'm gonna order the shorty tubes along with an L2. Really like'n the newer design of the SS switch (2nd gen?) that's in the blue ones. Not sure if the red's got updated to the new switch?
Any close-up pics of both, red and blue switches?
Yes... Well, I think I saw them somewhere... The 2nd gen sticks out further - easier to engage. Not sure of any other changes with it. Might be early in the big blue S2+ thread. I got both but no pics, but held them up against each other and saw the same thing - sticks out further (little) making it easier to switch. Doesn't effect tailstanding - still tailstands well.
You’d better thank me ‘cause I searched the post for ya! :bigsmile: :bigsmile: 0:)
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41417?page=5#comment-814118
Almost forgot it, host is listed on ali!
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Convoy-L2-flashlight-host/330416...
Hey thanks for posting that link. I got a message from Simon this morning that he was adding it but it wasn’t there the last time I looked. I’ll add it to the OP later today.
Aha, *takes a look at his red S2+ * Yep, and I thank you, because mine is the newer one, heh :D!
So, my GB red S2+ came with slightly improved switch ;)!
So nice of him to list mcpcb and driver sizes right up front with the host.
My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03
Major Projects: Illuminated Tailcap, TripleDown/TripleStack Driver
All 4 cents from your posts noted. I hadn’t though about the “grip stop” or “slip stop” function of the tactical ring so I have to retract my “useless” comment. It doesn’t look like it’s removable on the Jax but I’m only going by pictures. I’m not sure if it’s enough for me to want it on the L2 but you make a good point. I can tell you first hand this beast is heavy. I just got my stock L2 from Simon this morning. All I had time to do is charge a cell and light up a shop wall so far but I can tell you the beam was much brighter than I expected from a stock light with a very tight hot spot. In fact it’s the tightest hot spot I’ve personally seen from a dome-on emitter. I’ll report back once I get a chance to use this thing at night but so far I’m quite impressed. This thing really throws! :bigsmile:
I send him a message to order a L2 :bigsmile:
When I was reading through my old messages from Simon, he said that he will be making a XHP version in the future. Let’s hope that it will have a one piece tube like the Jax X6. Or better yet, have a larger head too. J)
Which gets really boring. – Tuomas Holopainen, 2015
I can’t make any promises about a bigger head but I’m fairly certain the one piece tube is going to happen. I will do my best to make sure of it. I took my new L2 outside with what I figured was my best comparison light. My comparison light is a favorite of mine… a XinTD C8 with spring bypass in the tail, FET driver (Wights A17DD-S08) XM-L2 U3 1A (dome on) on a 20mm Noctigon putting out 1580 at the start and 1525 lumens at 30 seconds in turbo and pulling 4.84A at the tail on a freshly charged LG HE2. The lumen numbers are from a trusted, calibrated light sphere owned by a good friend. I don’t have one myself so my comparison is my eyes only. My New L2 is running on the only 26650 I own which is a King Kong 4000 mAh ICR26650 also freshly charged. When I took them outside (I live far from the city, nice and dark) to my naked eye the L2 probably puts out a few less lumens but has a noticeably tighter hotspot and throws further. I’m also much happier with this driver than any other Convoy I own. The 3 modes are very well configured. The low is not moon but it is lower than standard low, medium is just what it should be and the high is sweet. I also tested the hidden strobe which worked perfectly and was not once triggered by accident in an hour of fiddling. I am honestly far more impressed with the stock form than I expected to be. In my opinion this light has HUGE modding potential. It will be even better IMO with the double 26650 tube. When some of you skilled flashlight builders have at this thing it’s going to be absolutely amazing! I’ve always been a fan of Simon’s work but this one exceeded my expectations. I’m looking forward to a few more expert opinions. :bigsmile:
So that cuts out the option of any single cell builds, 2x series only.
xkcd.com/1603 Li-ion battery safety 101.
Why would you say that? Nobody is asking him to stop making the existing host, just that he add a double cell tube option for those that want it. I sure do. Like KawiBoy1428 said. This is not an EDC light. It’s heavy. Built like a tank. IMO because of the massive yet beautifully styled head the tube seems a little short. Large hands will find they need more to grip and I think it will just overall balance the light much better. Don’t get me wrong, I love the existing design…but I will love a longer tube even more.
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