GB Interest ///OFFICIALLY CLOSED 11/8 @ 9pm CST/Maxtoch M24 Sniper with XP-L HI /// 250K lux @ 4.3 Amps!!!

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GB Interest ///OFFICIALLY CLOSED 11/8 @ 9pm CST/Maxtoch M24 Sniper with XP-L HI /// 250K lux @ 4.3 Amps!!!

1/30/16
Anyone who was wanting one of these GB lights and missed the GB, Amanda (Maxtoch) has just informed me that there are 7 of these lights left , they have the normal M24 tube but the same inside as the GB lights, and they are on the aliexpress site now. ONLY 7 of them them left though and when they are gone there will be no more.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/MAXTOCH-Sniper-M24-XP-L-HI-LED-High-4-5A-Current-Same-Version-as-BLF-Group/314381_32604784228.html

11/30/15
Beamshot comparison pictures added of my Old M24 vs The New GB M24 in Post #1008

11/25/15
A big THANK YOU to Amanda and all the others at Maxtoch for working so diligently on this GB and making it happen in such a short time (compared to the usual GB times) especially considering this was a custom light and not an off the shelf item.

11/9/15
Anyone who hasn’t made the payment already needs to do so today.
Maxtoch WILL NOT be taking payments once they have the final numbers for the engraving to be put on the GB lights.
This means if you do not have your light (s) paid for TODAY you will not be able to get it.

—11/8/15
Group Buy OFFICIALLY CLOSED. No more orders will be taken for this GB sorry.

—11/4/15
Anyone who hasn’t received an invoice or payment request please email Amanda and let her know as per her request. (Use the email provided in the group PM) or the PM I sent you if it was the last 2 days and you were added.

PLEASE DO NOT POST THE EMAIL IN THE FORUM FOR ANY REASON.

EDIT: Please double check the amount of the purchase BEFORE you pay

ALL Payment information and orders MUST ne turned in by 11-8-15 in order to receive a light.
There will be no more added and lights will only be shipped to the ones that are on the list and have ALL information turned in by the 10th (GB closing 8th to give 2 days to complete everything) Anyone added to the list will receive instructions on payment and so forth at the time I put them on the list (I will send PM)

If your Paypal address is different than your email please check both for an invoice from Maxtoch.

I have just gotten information from Maxtoch……… They are getting all the information provided by everyone for payment and shipping done as it comes in.
Everything should be done and ready to go for them to start shipping about the middle of November (CONFIRMED this month 16th Nov) this should have the lights to us before Christmas as we have hoped it would.

The official close date (for good this time) will be November 8th 2015 at 9 PM CST
Date was moved back by 2 days to the 8th to meet the deadline and ship on time.

Post 593 A couple of new pictures and an update on output.
10/31/15
Maxtoch informed me that due to the success of this GB, they are making up some extra lights for this buy.
The number of extra they did not give me a number on yet.
If you missed this GB or want 1 of these M24 lights, it will be a first come basis , and if we have more sign up than the number of lights remaining, then only the ones who signed up first will get them, and this will probably only last a short time.

I will be keeping everyone posted as I get more information.

10/27/15 GB OFFICIALLY CLOSED as of 10/27/15 at 9pm CST.
Anyone who does not want to pay the $2.00 for a holster, that you have ordered already, let me know if you need/want only 1 (free) holster (per light ordered).
We have reached the 80 needed to get a free holster now, and if you do not wish to buy one, I need to get your holster removed from the list.

Anyone who has ordered a light please check beside your name to confirm I have the right number of light(s) you want, the # of lights will be beside your name only 1 time, and if you have more than 1 then these ==== will be beside any duplicate name, and the number of lights you want listed by your name 1 time. Also be sure your name is on the list if you have ordered. Just double checking to be sure. If there is any error please send me a PM (robo819) and I will get it corrected, thanks.

PLEASE DO NOT reply to the group PM I sent requesting information,,,REPLY IN A SEPARTATE (private) PM TO ME ONLY as the information goes to everyone if not.

10/17/15
I know it is not a lot, but if we happen to reach 80 by the deadline, everyone on the list gets a free holster with the light.
Also a (limit of 3) pressure switches, per light purchased at $5.00 each, this is about half price, for those that want them.

10/16/15
GB closing on October 27th at 9 PM (central standard time) so anyone wanting one of these lights MUST have your name on the list before then.

IMPORTANT UPDATE about payment information, POST #333/ PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE ON THE GB LIST (or if you are planning on getting on it)

10/15/15
Minimum number has been reached to get the lower price of $58.50 as of today.
I will let everyone know, when I get all the information needed, when we can start ordering.
THANKS to everyone for helping make this happen.

10/9/15
**$58.50* * /// Matoch has agreed to lower the price from the original $63.50, but ONLY if we can reach the 50 minimum.
It has taken some effort but I think it is about as low as it is gonna get for this great thower.

10/1/15 Beamshots added (XM-L2 U2 dedomed) stock driver, in thread (post #213)

9/22/15

Ok there have been a number of you asked for at least 4 amps in the GB light, WE GOT IT!!!!, at least a 4 amp driver will be in the light maybe even 5, if minimum number reached.
The holster will be available for $2.00 and also the remote pressure switch for $5.00 with this GB

9/13/15

It was brought to my attention some of you may be wondering…..

1. Does Maxtoch accept paypal? / YES

2. Will the order have tracking? / YES / (included in listed prices in the post)

3. Any extra accessories with the light? / YES / A carry case, lanyard, a spare switch, O-ring’s, and tailcap boot.

Holster can be purchased for $2.00 and/or Remote pressure switch for $5.00 if purchased with the light in GB.
Just be sure to put which (or both) in the “remarks” section if you want either once the GB is active.

Pictures and a link to beamshot slideshow added below.

9/11/15
Hey Guys,

I know the Group Buys have been going hard and heavy lately and I keep thinking they would slow down but it doesn’t appear it will any time soon so here goes………

I have been talking to Amanda at Maxtoch (also Kronological said he will help me if I need it) and I am sure I will as this is my first time to do a GB.

With the thought of a BLF thrower in mind (although not a real small one) IT WILL THROW!!!

What I have got is the Maxtoch M24 Sniper with the XP-L HI emitter in it, using the already tried and proven Maxtoch Copper board (DTP) with it. The battery tube (flat area) will have BLF SE (Special Edition) or BLF TE (Thrower Edition) SET (Special Edition Thrower) depending on which the most preferred who wanted one of these lights. The price would be $58.50 including shipping and free tracking, if we reach 50 units.

I don’t know how many of you are familiar with the Maxtoch brand, but I can tell you as the owner of one of the M24’s with a dedomed XM-L2 U2, these are some pretty awesome throwers. They are also some extremely well built lights, for a fraction of the cost, of anything else I know of out there with the build quality.

A Few of the things I know are in (or will be in) the light….

Of course it will have the XP-L HI emitter (neutral tint)
Driver 4 amps minimum
Copper Board
AR coated Lens
Well spaced modes HI/MED/LOW (no blinkies)
1 inch tube (scope mountable)
Double O-Rings (helps waterproofing)
Excellent threads (well cut)
Forward clicky/ Momentary On switch
The carry case included with light (although I don’t know if it will come in green or in black) the extra switch, O-rings and tailcap boot are also included…….

 photo M24 side view_zpskhuzboca.jpg

L to R// Convoy C8—Convoy L4 (W/ext tube)—Maxtoch M24—SmallSun ZY-T16

Reflector/Head Comparison—-L to R// Maxtoch M24—SmallSun Zy-T16—Convoy L4—Convoy C8

Link to video review here: (best in full screen) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjIT5Mg0F-U&feature=youtu.be
Link to Beamshot Slideshow here: (best in full screen) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfBBNefmIWY
This is with the dedomed XM-L2 U2 emitter in the one I already have.

Anyone interested please let me know, and please try to keep discussions to a minimum in this thread if you can, as I will already be having a hard time keeping up as is.
Thanks everyone and hope we can get the numbers needed for an awesome thrower.
Please Put “SE” (Special Edition) or “TE” (Thrower Edition) to follow the BLF, if you have a preference of lettering on the light.

And the most votes of the two will be what we go with.

Interest list / BLF SE or TE Engraving (np=No Preference)
1.robo819———————-1————— TE
2.Wrathbringer27———-1————— np
3.monanza——-3——————————SE
4.kronological——1—————————np
5.archimedes——1————————— np
6.tru3s1lv3r——-1—————————-np
7.Mitko ———2——————————— SE
8.magnet——-1——————————- np
9.Beachlogger——1————————- np
10.Frankie Baby——4———————- np
11.SawMaster——-1———————— np
12.mattlward———1———————— np
13.Rusty Joe——1————————— np
14.clagged——-1—————————- np
15.MaleNurse —-1————————— np
16.banker——-3——————————- np
17.n1e103——-3—————————— SE
18.Tom E ——-1——————————-TE
19.Muto———1———————————np
20.L4M4——-1———————————-TE
21.Gj——-1————————————— SE
22.DB Custom——1—————————np
23.Slim Pickens——1———————- np
24.bugsy——1————————————np
25.THAO916 —-1——————————np
26.n1e103 ==========SE
27.Sparkey762 —-4————————-TE
28.Sparkey762============TE
29.Frankie Baby ======-np
30.uqs1000 ——1——————————-np
31.1dash1 ——-1——————————-np
32.willey91 ——-1——————————np
33.NikolaS——-1———————————np
34.bmcfiv——2———————————np
35.bmcfiv==============np
36.Evilc ——1————————————-np
37.thestug ——1———————————np
38.KiwiKane —-1——————————-TE
39.willie——4—————————————np
40.willie================np
41.willie================np
42.dthoang ——1——————————TE
43.TheBo ——1———————————-TE
44.Abqjohnny —-1——————————np
45.willie=================np
46.Mitko=================SE
47.emarkd ——1———————————np
48.Gerrit ——1————————————TE
49.Tete ——1—————————————SE
50.Tarvos ——1———————————-np
51.monanza ==========SE
52.Sparkey762 ========TE
53.G0OSE ——1———————————TE
54.djburkes ——1——————————TE
55.xed888 ——1——————————-np
56.Easyrr——1———————————-np………voting ended here as production started
57.Koaksijalac——1
58.Gunslinger686—-1
59.loveblf—-1
60.HighCaliber—-1
61.Frankie Baby=====
62.n1e103=====
63.monanza======
64.dcalgo——1
65.Nat.ie——1
66.Northwoods—-1
67.duffman —-1
68.cloggy—-1
69.gleamer ——2
70.Tricycle Assassin——2
71.Tricycle Assassin=====
72.xray291——1
73.snow333——1
74.1million_Lumens —-1
75.Aspire7 ——1
76.Double G —-1
77.tebeve —-1
78.RustyShackleford —-1
79.MauiSon ——1
80.bakalakos ——1
81.strangern ——1
82.Hairy_Steve ——1
83.Aardvark Spleen—-3
84.sameusernewname ——1
85.ToastOnFire ——1
86.Intracloud ——1
87.adrianlights —-1
88.Sparkey762======
89.arvid ———-1
90.banker=====
91.darkpenguin ——1
92.Aardvark Spleen ===
93.flashination——1
94.Silentcropduster——1
95.Frankie Baby=====
96.Nygaard——-1
97.Eric_223——-1
98.qandeel ——1
99.Shadowfax —-1
100.Teracis —-1
101.banker=====
102.Nagamee ——1
103.Far Thrower —-1
104.Nguyen——1
105.gleamer ====
106.trigger619——1
107.Aardvark Spleen ===
108.Gavstein ——1
109.Rex Block——1
110.Sami——-1
111.Raynesdad97—-1
112.colfax_Mac—-1

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

Edited by: robo819 on 01/30/2016 - 06:51
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Can they dedome it for us?

-FWIW that’s key to me.
Lettering for Special Edition isn’t a priority.

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MAXTOCH M24 with XML2 U2 LED is already with nice throw. I believe if it is changed into XP-L IH, M24 will have even better performance.

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If they use the XP-L HI its already ‘dedomed’. That is the key feature of the XP-L HI, it doesnt have a dome, just a flat silicone piece. Wink

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travis wrote:
Can they dedome it for us?

-FWIW that’s key to me.
Lettering for Special Edition isn’t a priority.

Ummmmmmm

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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Good Day robo819,  Smile

 

I suggest you move this thread to the Group Buys subforum.

 

Best Regards,

George

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Looks Good to me Robo – Please start a list and put me down for one!

XP-L HI – Not a “Factory” De-Dome, like Olight did:-(

Tint is very important to me, which is why I say No de-dome.

Any chance we could get the UI changed to a L-M-H order, or am I the only weird one in the group?

Thanks!
-Chuck
EDIT: BLF SE, please, as “SET” sounds like I might be missing the other one:-)

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chuckhov wrote:
Looks Good to me Robo – Please start a list and put me down for one!

XP-L HI – Not De-Dome.

Any chance we could get it changed to L-M-H, or am I the only weird one in the group?

Thanks!
-Chuck
EDIT: BLF SE, please, as SET sounds like I might be missing the other one:-)

ok will do, thanks for kicking it off

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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Pls put me in… But I will only buy if it reaches the 100 pieces price Smile

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Wrathbringer27 wrote:
Pls put me in… But I will only buy if it reaches the 100 pieces price Smile

will do and ok

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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I do have a question. Will they up the amps ? And how much throw will it give since its been changed to the XP-L HI

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Wrathbringer27 wrote:
I do have a question. Will they up the amps ? And how much throw will it give since its been changed to the XP-L HI

The amps I don’t think so right now at the price but the throw with the dedomed XM-L2 U2 in the one I have is at least 500 yards and this XP-L HI is supposed to be even better. Here is a couple of beamshots from mine with XM-L2 U2

400yds (high)

400yds high photo 400 yards 2_zpsf42ykzwl.jpg

400yds zoomed a bit
400yds zoomed in on tree photo 400 yards_zpsv8t8wufy.jpg

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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Count me in.
I vote for SE (Special Edition)

A couple of questions:
What type of circuitry?
Maximum current?
Color temperature?

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monanza wrote:
Count me in.
I vote for SE (Special Edition)

A couple of questions:
What type of circuitry?
Maximum current?
Color temperature?


Oooh I hope it’s neutral white !! I don’t mind the engraving lol any will do! Nice pics but if they do up the amps I will love it more!! Hehe

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monanza wrote:
Count me in.
I vote for SE (Special Edition)

A couple of questions:
What type of circuitry?
Maximum current?
Color temperature?

Buck driver I think is what they will use
you would have to ask one of the modders on max current but I think it is 3A and 10W ? on the XP-L HI
and I will ask for at least 2 tint options if possible

Click any link to see MY REVIEWS:

Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / TC15 CE *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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Nice!

Here is what it looks like. (Pic is a link to stock unit product page. The GB SE version will have the XP-L Hi emitter).

I have two of the SN6×-2X lights, it’s heavier big brother, and they are my go-to thrower lights. This will be a nice addition. Put me down for one!

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The amps I don't think so right now at the price but the throw with the dedomed XM-L2 U2 in the one I have is at least 500 yards and this XP-L HI is supposed to be even better

The XP-L Hi has the same die size as the XM-L2, so by design the throw will not be better, only if the XP-L Hi has a better bin. But in that case think 10 or so percent, not 50.

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The amps I don’t think so right now at the price but the throw with the dedomed XM-L2 U2 in the one I have is at least 500 yards and this XP-L HI is supposed to be even better

The XP-L Hi has the same die size as the XM-L2, so by design the throw will not be better, only if the XP-L Hi has a better bin. But in that case think 10 or so percent, not 50.

You may be right, and I am not arguing one way or the other, I am by far no expert with these things.
I am just going by what I was told, by the company, that in stock form the XP-L HI will perform better then the Xm-L2 U2, although dedomed the XM-L2 is about the same in throw as the XP-L HI
so I figured why not get the one that already performs best without having to do any mods.

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robo819 wrote:
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The amps I don't think so right now at the price but the throw with the dedomed XM-L2 U2 in the one I have is at least 500 yards and this XP-L HI is supposed to be even better

The XP-L Hi has the same die size as the XM-L2, so by design the throw will not be better, only if the XP-L Hi has a better bin. But in that case think 10 or so percent, not 50.

You may be right, and I am not arguing one way or the other, I am by far no expert with these things. I am just going by what I was told, by the company, that in stock form the XP-L HI will perform better then the Xm-L2 U2, although dedomed the XM-L2 is about the same in throw as the XP-L HI so I figured why not get the one that already performs best without having to do any mods.

In case the comparison was XP-L Hi with domed XM-L2: I agree Smile

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It’s all about the tint.
If I spent that much money on a light, I don’t want a greenish or yellowish tint.
I want pure 5000k of light with a good CRI Smile

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It’s all about the tint. If I spent that much money on a light, I don’t want a greenish or yellowish tint. I want pure 5000k of light with a good CRI Smile

I like the neutral myself, but there are those who like warm tints and those who like cool tints,,,,i am going to try for at least neutral and cool and hopefully warm also.

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You might ask mudgripz to help with this project—I believe he has had many dealings with Maxtoch.

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travis wrote:
You might ask mudgripz to help with this project—I believe he has had many dealings with Maxtoch.

Already had that thought myself, thanks for the heads up though.

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Any chance we could get the UI changed to a L-M-H order, or am I the only weird one in the group?

Is there a particular reason why?

IMHO, L-M-H would be a mistake. This is a thrower/weapon light. Strappin’ this to a rifle (or not) and wanting it to light up your target…and it comes on ‘L’ would be underwhelming and a complete bummer. :~

This is a thrower and it should throw-from-the-get-go! :exmark:

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robo819][quote=monanza wrote:
you would have to ask one of the modders on max current but I think it is 3A and 10W ? on the XP-L HI and I will ask for at least 2 tint options if possible

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3A is Very low for our BLF SE standards.

Case in point: The little BLF SE A6 does Over 5 amps with a XP-L. – I have one and it hasn’t started any fires, yet:-)

I see Upping the Amps as being A Must!

3A is for continuous running in a lighting fixture somewhere out there in the dark, cruel world, not something that belongs in a Flashaholics light:-)

You probably should mention this to Maxtoch right off the bat, as they may need some convincing about how the BLF rolls!

Thank you,
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kronological wrote:
chuckhov wrote:
Any chance we could get the UI changed to a L-M-H order, or am I the only weird one in the group?

Is there a particular reason why?

IMHO, L-M-H would be a mistake. This is a thrower/weapon light. Strappin’ this to a rifle (or not) and wanting it to light up your target…and it comes on ‘L’ would be underwhelming and a complete bummer. :~

This is a thrower and it should throw-from-the-get-go! :exmark:

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Hi Krono,

It’s probably just my psychological makeup.

I dunno – Most of my lights start on low, one exception being my Convoy L4. – Bugs the hell out of me, as I want to have something to look forward to, not to just go right to the Max out of the gate, with all the other modes then seeming Anti-Climatic. – It does have mode memory, so I could start on low, but then High is the next in line. – Just don’t like it that way.

As for the rifle thing: I can only agree 100% with you there – I just don’t play that game. – Pistols, Rifles, Shotguns – Love em all! – Just don’t ever see the need for a light on any of them… Hard enough for me to hit what I want in the daytime:-)

I can see that I am going to be badly outnumbered here with my L-M-H request, so I will now withdraw it.

Thanks, and have a great day!
-Chuck

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chuckhov][quote=robo819 wrote:
monanza wrote:
you would have to ask one of the modders on max current but I think it is 3A and 10W ? on the XP-L HI and I will ask for at least 2 tint options if possible

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3A is Very low for our BLF SE standards.

Case in point: The little BLF SE A6 does Over 5 amps with a XP-L. – I have one and it hasn’t started any fires, yet:-)

I see Upping the Amps as being A Must!

3A is for continuous running in a lighting fixture somewhere out there in the dark, cruel world, not something that belongs in a Flashaholics light:-)

You probably should mention this to Maxtoch right off the bat, as they may need some convincing about how the BLF rolls!

Thank you,
-Chuck

They will negotiate better I think as we get closer to the minimum quanities but I already have a message in about amps and tint options so I will let everyone know if I hear anything about those

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Thanks Robo!

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Going from 3A to 5A gives 40% more light (percepted by your eyes as 20%) at the cost of 80% more power. This extra power comes with a huge effect on runtime and heat-management.

There is always a trade-off and the closer you get to maximum output, the more unfavorable the trade-off becomes. My personal flashaholic idea of where I think it really becomes unfavorable is 80% of the maxium output, for non-flashaholics that would be more like 65%. In case of the XP-L(Hi), 80% of maxiumum output is at 4.5 amps.

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How about an M12 version with XP-L HI? I'm totally down for that right now. 

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