Fake NITECORE Chargers [2016]

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When did Nitecore start this validation code on box practice? [Ans – Dec 1, 2014]

My first Nitecore charger bought March 2015 didn’t have one, but the rails/positive terminals are nonmagnetic. Bogus or old stock?

Second Nitecore charger (with code) – “The Nitecore product you purchased is legitimate. Thank you.”

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No nitecore capasitors inside. seller promised to refund half, but i’m not satisfied with half.

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Had the genuine one here.
All the things were right
it failed on me, so I took a closer look.
Nitecore says the contacts and slide for the cells are made of copper and you can test that with a magnet.
I found these part were very light and had the same feel another really cheap charger I took apart had as well.
So I snapped 1 to look beneath the silver colored surface, only to see more silver colored metal, not the yellow or reddish yellow one would expect from copper.

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My new batch of D4 arrived from a reputable source about a week ago. I did a quick magnet test for both and this was what I found.


Both positive contact plates and slider rails of a real Nitecore D4 charger do not attract magnet. As for the fake charger, every single metallic parts that you see inside the charging bay will attract magnet. More info will be updated in OP soon.

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Well after my previous post here I broke off another piece of the genuine Nitecore D4 , not magnetic but again silver color no yellow or reddish yellow one would expect from the copper Nitecore says is used
Seems alu to me, do how real are even the genuine?

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The Miller wrote:
Well after my previous post here I broke off another piece of the genuine Nitecore D4 , not magnetic but again silver color no yellow or reddish yellow one would expect from the copper Nitecore says is used. Seems alu to me, do how real are even the genuine?
Can you link to where Nitecore says that these parts are copper?

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It’s in the pic in the OP where they explain to use a magnet

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The Miller wrote:
It’s in the pic in the OP where they explain to use a magnet
Sure enough, it is. Thanks!

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freeme wrote:

My new batch of D4 arrived from a reputable source about a week ago. I did a quick magnet test for both and this was what I found.


Both positive contact plates and slider rails of a real Nitecore D4 charger do not attract magnet. As for the fake charger, every single metallic parts that you see inside the charging bay will attract magnet. More info will be updated in OP soon.

From the photos I can see that the positive contacts have different shapes.

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piasca wrote:
From the photos I can see that the positive contacts have different shapes.
That’s a good point, but I’d prefer to stick to the manufacturer’s guide for identifying fakes. For example Nitecore could use more than one shape depending on supply. They’ve already specifically listed many clues.

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Odd thought — I was talking to some contractors about tools, and they said that it’s common for brand name manufacturers (talking power tools now, saws, drills and such) to have several apparently identical production runs of different quality that go to different resellers. One specific mentioned was steel gears for the quality line, and plastic gears for the Home Depot cheapy line. Others chimed in saying everything at Home Depot is seconds or cheap versions of things you can find better made elsewhere.

Not to nail Home Depot per se, but to point out that it could well be the same place and the same people are making Nitecore and Nerdcrap, on different shifts, for different wholesalers. Could be these aren’t “counterfeit” except that the Nerdcrap innards got put into the Nitecore boxes by someone who figured out how to get more for his money, er, more of your money for his money.

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So far I’ve seen a lot of analysis of the new batch of fakes but after 3 weeks, the OP has still not told us who sold them. Only that they have 100% positive feedback. Well that certainly helps narrow it down. Has OP been instructed to not reveal the name lest (s)he face legal consequences?

Kudos to the several other people who’ve posted in the thread with names of sellers both fake and legit.

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any comments about the Nitecore 18350 batteries? In HKJ’s test, he purchased them from Fasttech, but there is no mention of Sysmax nor Nitecore on packaging and battery wrap.

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Good point. Freeme,please identify “this new store” that “had positive ratings with 100% “good”

Where were these ratings posted, Amazon? Ebay? Somewhere else?

That’s 100 percent out of how many total reviews? And over what period of time?

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And is there anybody who can corfirm my findings that the contact points for the cells are not looking like copper?
Nitecore claims they are but they look nothing like copper on the inside, more aluminium in color nd alu also does not attract magnets
I find this disturbing, Nitecore is supposed to be an A brand but if they do not provide correct info on this I have to write them off.

I did check it by breaking the contacts for both the + and – side for cells in half.
And then look at the metal.
If you have a broken down charger, please do the same.

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The Miller wrote:
And is there anybody who can corfirm my findings that the contact points for the cells are not looking like copper?
Nitecore claims they are but they look nothing like copper on the inside, more aluminium in color nd alu also does not attract magnets
I find this disturbing, Nitecore is supposed to be an A brand but if they do not provide correct info on this I have to write them off.

I did check it by breaking the contacts for both the + and – side for cells in half.
And then look at the metal.
If you have a broken down charger, please do the same.

When I suspected my D2 was fake I contacted Nitecore several times via email and was completely ignored. No a single response!

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Well I have just done the magnet test on my D4, which passed the authentication code test when I bought it about a year ago & both the positive & negative contacts attract a magnet ?
It passes the other things mentioned by freeme, such as spelling, type face, spacing etc.

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CORRECTION.

My positive contacts do not attract a magnet but the negative contacts do ????????????

EDIT : Looking at freeme“s pic again although he states that the positive & negative contacts & the sliders “do not attract” a magnet his picture of a “real” D4 shows that the positive contact & sliders do not attract a magnet but the negative contact does.
Confused ?
Going by his written word I have a fake but going by his pictures I have a real D4 ?
As my charger passed the verification code test properly, has no spelling, spacing mistakes etc & conforms to his pictures of a real D4 (but not his written description of a “real” D4) I am going to go with I have a genuine D4.
PS. how the hell do we insert smilies on this new format forum ?

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bella-headlight wrote:
PS. how the hell do we insert smilies on this new format forum ?

They are voice operated,  just say "insert smile". Big Smile

 

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hmm this seems to work. :diablo:

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Taobao store: 白金宫殿 DO NOT BUY FROM THEM

I believe they are not the only one supplying fake NITECORE chargers. I am not surprised if they are been sold in eBay or Aliexpress as well.

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Good point. Freeme,please identify “this new store” that “had positive ratings with 100% “good”

Where were these ratings posted, Amazon? Ebay? Somewhere else?

That’s 100 percent out of how many total reviews? And over what period of time?

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Thanks for the warning!

Still I am not buying any at all since Nitecore states copper yet no copper where they claim it and that makes even the genuine not as advertised. Bye bye nitecore for future buys for me.

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The Miller wrote:
Thanks for the warning!

Still I am not buying any at all since Nitecore states copper yet no copper where they claim it and that makes even the genuine not as advertised. Bye bye nitecore for future buys for me.


I understand that you may be doing this on principal. With that said I don’t think it’s normal to use pure copper on sliders like that, regardless of what Nitecore states.

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Sure and if they would just say “non magnetic metal” I would not have any issue with it Wink

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Fair enough.

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I think the problem,as Wight points out, Nitecore are possibly not describing their products correctly and if you contact them to clarify, they don’t reply. So I understand The millers point.

My D2 is fake according to the magnet test, 240v input socket, verification number doesn’t exist and it won’t charge AAA eneloops without taking them to 1.59v. But when I emailed Nitecore, 3 times, I didn’t get one reply.

I now avoid Nitecore products.

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I just received 8 Nitecore UM10 chargers ( for gifting ) and found the negative slide contact instantly grabs a magnet, while the positive contact does not. I have done some researching to learn if “all” Nitecore chargers use non-magnetic metals, without any success so far. I was going to contact Nitecore until reading a members post mentioning Nitecore did not reply to his correspondence, so I hope to save time and learn the answer here. If they are fake I of course need to contact the shipper right away,,,,,,,,,and also update you who the supplier is.

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I got a (really good) fake i4 from EdisonBright on amazon, but that was about 2 years ago so no refunds, and the packaging is long gone.

It fails the magnet test and there aren’t any nitecore caps.

Edit: 3/3/16, since I’m officially in the OP reporting a fake, I thought it would be a good idea to say that the purchase date from EdisonBright was 11/11/13. I believe this to be one of the earliest fakes to be reported.

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Freeme,

Thanks for the illustrations!

Your post prompted me to check my charger. Fortunately, it passed all the visual and magnetic tests. Smile

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Here is a link to answer the magnet question for “all” Nitecore chargers.

http://charger.nitecore.com/identification-guide-nitecore-charger-users

I just received Fake UM10’s. What would be the best solution to resolve this, viewing it as a BLF member and satisfied Banggood customer? Is there a BLF member that is also with BG?

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