Fake NITECORE Chargers [2016]

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I took mine apart all of my parts are labeled with Nitecore on them but i did buy mine in 2014

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My D4 has internal parts labelled Nitecore & my positive contacts are non magnetic (as Nitecore say they should be), however my negative contacts/rails are magnetic which Nitecore state shows a fake ?
My unit also passed its authentication code test so I believe it to be genuine even though my negative contacts/rails are the complete opposite of what Nitecore state they should be.
I do not think that their magnet test advice is 100% correct.

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Sharpie wrote:
Why are we all bothered ?

If there are “fakes” that work the same, what is the problem ?

And where did they come from ?

Same factory, same parts ?

Now, if someone has had a bad experience with a shoddy “not Nitecore” charger that has burned down their house, or killed their batteries, I don’t think I have heard about it.

Nitecore don’t seem to be interested in following up “fake” allegations.

I suspect it is FUD.

They are not expensive.

Why bother to clone and cheat ?

The design is good, and the cost of parts add up to a decent amount.

Show me a fake with rubbish inside and I would worry.

My D2 fails the magnet test, the verification test has a 240v figure 8 like freemes fake. And it HAS killed 6 AAA cells. 2 eneloop, 2 energiser, 1 Panasonic and a Recyko. In all cases it has taken them to 1.59 volts. The fist couple of times I did not realise what it had done until I saw 1.59v on screen.

We may not have seen anyone house burn down yet and it is unlikely but, if I pay for a real item I expect a real item otherwise people would not be complaining about fake Cree LEDs.

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Sharpie wrote:
Why are we all bothered ?
  • If there are “fakes” that work the same, what is the problem ? We don’t know that they work the same.
  • And where did they come from? The manufacturer’s location is unknown.
  • Same factory, same parts? We don’t know about the factory. Definitely not the same parts.
  • Now, if someone has had a bad experience with a shoddy “not Nitecore” charger that has burned down their house, or killed their batteries, I don’t think I have heard about it. Somehow, that thought isn’t very reassuring. Tired
  • Nitecore don’t seem to be interested in following up “fake” allegations. I think they are interested in following up on fakes. [Reference Link]
  • I suspect it is FUD. I suspect that it is a genuine concern. People deserve to get the bona fide product that they paid good money for.
  • They are not expensive. Does the low purchase price in any way change the fact that the buyer didn’t get a genuine product?
  • Why bother to clone and cheat? I think they clone and cheat to make more money than they otherwise would if sold under their own brand.
  • The design is good, and the cost of parts add up to a decent amount. I’m not aware of any testing of fakes to ascertain whether their design is factually good.
  • Show me a fake with rubbish inside and I would worry. Hmmm… I don’t have an anwer to that one. Innocent

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Please look at the icons (Right) that I have indicated again. Negative contact plates of an authentic charger do attract magnet. I have confirmed it with D4, D2, i4 and i2 so far.

Don5946 wrote:
I just received 8 Nitecore UM10 chargers ( for gifting ) and found the negative slide contact instantly grabs a magnet, while the positive contact does not. I have done some researching to learn if “all” Nitecore chargers use non-magnetic metals, without any success so far. I was going to contact Nitecore until reading a members post mentioning Nitecore did not reply to his correspondence, so I hope to save time and learn the answer here. If they are fake I of course need to contact the shipper right away,,,,,,,,,and also update you who the supplier is.

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Thank you. I see 3 points-of-contact. Only the positive is not magnetic on mine. Both negative points are magnetic.

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What result did you get from the validation codes? I have not heard of any fake um series yet.

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Thank you. I see 3 points-of-contact. Only the positive is not magnetic on mine. Both negative points are magnetic.

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No code testing. Magnet is enough for me at this point. I’m having to spend more time with this than I really should be considering other life’s immediate needs. No disrespect meant and I appreciate your help. For some reason everything seems to hit at once when we are already too busy, so further checking doesn’t seem to be immediately required but I see your point. I can check a couple codes asap and post. Thanks again.

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Sharpie wrote:

Now, if someone has had a bad experience with a shoddy “not Nitecore” charger that has burned down their house, or killed their batteries, I don’t think I have heard about it.

Well my legit died after a few times used. Screen did not display info so could not trust it.

Sharpie wrote:

My point is, that you usually get what you pay for.

Which is not a lot, in this case.


Please buy my Olight intimidator, for just $20. You’ll receive an Ultrafire zoomie with “Olight Intimidator” written on it with a silver sharpie and a cough 5600mAh Ultrafire cell installed (on that I will write Olight as well no worries ;))
You must like that a lot! Getting what you pay for Silly

I will avoid Nitecore since I found their own specs to be untrue on a genuine one.
Reading they do not show interest in these matters when it comes to fakes makes this decision seem more legit.

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I’m starting to think like you are Miller, Nitecores validation site is not accessible for some reason. Either I have a virus or it is not available for some reason.

Maybe someone else can give it a try.

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So what do you reckon my D4 is freeme, real or fake ?
My positive contacts do not attract a magnet but negative contacts & slider rails do ?
It passed the authentication code test & upon opening up the charger the components are labelled Nitecore ?
I can“t see it being anything but real due to passing the authentication code & having internal components labelled Nitecore but if that is the case how come my negative contacts & slider rails attract a magnet when Nitecore state that genuine chargers do not ?

Ian

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G'Day BLF'ers,  smile

 

As posted by me in Marcl's misleadingly labelled thread "Banggood selling fake Nitecore charger? confirmed by Nitecore's website, if it's working" :

 

I have a few Nitecore D4 chargers sourced from Nitecore themselves, some of which fail their own tests for verifying if genuine or not.

When I spoke to my Nitecore contact about this, he said that they still had old stock of chargers & parts to clear/use up.

So many chargers would fail Or partially fail their new "promulgated" verification tests.

 

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George

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Sharpie wrote:
Why are we all bothered ?

I can’t speak for anyone else, but if I’m buying a knock-off, I want to know that it’s a knock-off. Give it a humorous name (Nortcore, Nitecar, Won Hung Lo, etc.) and shove it off the back of a truck in Shenzen market for all I care, just don’t lie to me about it being authentic.

I want a cool white light about as much as I want Cool Ranch Soda.

 

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I couldn’t agree more.

Herb Tarlek wrote:
Sharpie wrote:
Why are we all bothered ?

I can’t speak for anyone else, but if I’m buying a knock-off, I want to know that it’s a knock-off. Give it a humorous name (Nortcore, Nitecar, Won Hung Lo, etc.) and shove it off the back of a truck in Shenzen market for all I care, just don’t lie to me about it being authentic.

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freeme wrote:
I couldn’t agree more.
Herb Tarlek wrote:
Sharpie wrote:
Why are we all bothered ?

I can’t speak for anyone else, but if I’m buying a knock-off, I want to know that it’s a knock-off. Give it a humorous name (Nortcore, Nitecar, Won Hung Lo, etc.) and shove it off the back of a truck in Shenzen market for all I care, just don’t lie to me about it being authentic.

+1 Yeah, that’s pretty much how I feel, too. We buy clones of clones of clones around here already. It’s just that the clones have their own name. A “fake” is not the same as a clone. It is a deception right from the start. I suppose most of us have heard the saying “no honor among thieves” at some time. That’s what I think about. Copying someone’s good idea is expected. Stealing their name is dirty.

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This makes me laugh. Nitecore obviously have a problem with people copying their products. But sometime ago they or Niteye were blatantly copying the spy007 light. They didn’t seem to have a problem then.

What goes around . . .

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FWIW
I recently bought their DigiCharger D-4. The validation code checks and says it is an authentic Nitecore product and it is correct in every way except that the power cord recipticle is square and not clipped in the two top corners as indicated in one of the early posts.

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Probably an old batch.

This is how the latest one looks like.

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FWIW
I recently bought their DigiCharger D-4. The validation code checks and says it is an authentic Nitecore product and it is correct in every way except that the power cord recipticle is square and not clipped in the two top corners as indicated in one of the early posts.

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Is it true that only the negative spring side will be magnetic in ALL real Nitecore’s chargers or only the D4?

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It is true for D4, D2, i4, i2. I have also tested on UM20 and UM10. My memory is faint for UM series, but I am 90% sure that they gave the same results too.

bugsy wrote:
Is it true that only the negative spring side will be magnetic in ALL real Nitecore’s chargers or only the D4?

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freeme wrote:
Probably an old batch.
Possibly. I am glad that everything else checked out. Thanks for the heads up and all that you do for the forums.

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freeme wrote:
It is true for D4, D2, i4, i2. I have also tested on UM20 and UM10. My memory is faint for UM series, but I am 90% sure that they gave the same results too.
bugsy wrote:
Is it true that only the negative spring side will be magnetic in ALL real Nitecore’s chargers or only the D4?

I recently ordered the UM10 and can confirm that the negative contact is magnetic whereas the positive contact is not (the verification code is also valid).

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This thread made me a little nervous, since I just plugged my D4 in.
Haven’t taken it apart, but the AC-input socket, the spacing in the logo and the magnetic test is ok. The box is gone, and I didn’t know there was a validation code on it. But I’m pretty confident that it’s a genuine Nitecore product.

Appreciate your effort. Thanks!

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In the end; as long as you are happy, it doesn’t matter if it’s a fake or real. Smile

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HorizontalHunter wrote:
FWIW
I recently bought their DigiCharger D-4. The validation code checks and says it is an authentic Nitecore product and it is correct in every way except that the power cord recipticle is square and not clipped in the two top corners as indicated in one of the early posts.

Bob

I got mine D4 back in Oct 2015.

The part where power cord plugs in is rectangle too. No clipped corners. Validation code checks out OK on Nitecore site.

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Thanks for this thread. I bought a nitecore i2 2014 version a year ago and never pondered if it was a fake charger. So just today I checked the validation code and it is authentic. I couldn’t get it to validate until I realized I was adding the spaces in the validation code. Silly

I bought mine from EdisonBright® (notice the registered trademark at the end) via amazon. Here is the link.

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maybe this is how we get Chinese do somthing about IP enforcement.

when the Chinese steal from the Chinese!

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