[07-MAR-2016] Current status of BLF upgrade process

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I’m happy to see the BLF back on line. However, it does not appear to be any more mobile friendly than the old site. I have a Galaxy S5. When I tap most links I still get the magnified selection box pop up and have to tap again. Plus the print is small. Not that it will bother me much because I do mostly use a 10” or larger display. Knowing how much trouble it is to make major changes to websites I have to wonder why a more mobile friendly redesign was not followed? All the same I do love BLF.

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Knowing how much trouble it is to make major changes to websites I have to wonder why a more mobile friendly redesign was not followed?

Hi there, a new theme was definitely not a priority for this upgrade. The upgrade was basically obligatory because they are going to stop checking for security holes in the older version we were running. So my main concern was to upgrade the BLF core functionality, which is still a work in progress. I still need to re-implement things like spam control and a better email notification system. Maybe in the future I can look into mobile support.

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4. No subject line on each individual response. Is that permanent or just something that will be worked on later?
I actually disabled that because I never really saw much value in a subject for a forum post, especially since most just left it blank and it got filled with the first ~25 characters of the actual post. I think it looks cleaner and more streamlined without them, but I’d be more than happy to re-enable them if the majority prefers it that way.

I’m with SB on this one… I’ve seen more issues with Subject Lines containing the default characters, then posts are edited and that changes… Or it has some weird statement that just doesn’t fit out of context… My vote is to leave it disabled.


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I agree, forget the subject line. It was distracting and not being used correctly anyway.

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I’m not sure about the signature line rules on this new setup, but I think it would be nice if there was a a very strict size limit on any pictures that go there. I know the member I have in mind means well, but every time he posts it makes a mess of the page.

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sb56637 wrote:
a better email notification system.

Waiting for it, I am missing it.

Generally I believe the upgrade went fairly well, as a user I have seen very few problems.

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subject line

I’ve tried to use it, not leave it just duplicating the first few words of the response, but I won’t miss it

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location

Hm, and I’d just a few days ago suggested people with unwanted flattop cells (those who would rather trade than fight with the seller) make sure to show their location
so any of us near enough to meet and buy or trade could work something out.

Is there any other way to detect proximity?
Like (for US) matching the first 4 digits of the ZIP, for example? That’d find people who are somewhat close.

I’m sure the advertisers can locate all of us right down to the nearest wifi or cell site or street address — but do they share that useful tool with their flocks and herds out standing in their fields?

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pictures

Once I’ve seen the same picture twice or thrice, I usually try UBlock’s “block element” and try to avoid seeing it again.
It speeds up the pages and reduces the “bouncing” quite a bit, though the accumulated filter lines eventually will choke my adblocker.
Any better way to reduce imagery that’s repeatedly shown, or outdated, would be most welcome.
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I’m liking the new color scheme. Big Smile

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The nerd-themed smileys are going to take some getting used to Smile

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It looks really nice Smile
I’m missing only a small point: Formerly the location of the members where shown (if they posted it in the account). Sometimes the locations helps, if a member is looking for something special (spare parts).

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These all dns problems in 99% cases come from change done incorrectly and not from “dns being slow”.

DNS zone contains TTL record which informs dns resolvers how long they can cache information. Properly done move is like this:
- assuming current TTL is 4 days (for example) -> lower TTL to 5 minutes
- wait 4 days until all cache entries on resolvers are known to expire
- then do changes (remember that TTL is only 5 minutes now, so that’s how long resolvers will cache the information)
- changes can also include restoring TTL to old value

https://www.dnswatch.info/articles/dns-update

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First impression, I like the new Look.

It still looks like snot in a sock on my monitor, but that’s Winders’ fault as much as anybody’s. The ad at the top is wider than the screen, so I sometimes get the Horizontal Thumb because of the ads. No “Width=100%” on ads, eh? I’ll repeat my standard whine, that script kiddies (the ones who wrote the middleware we’re using here as well as FireFox contributors and Winders code puppies) need to get some sort of clue and test their work as if they once met a “professional” programmer. (“It works on my system” would get you a stern talking-to at the Help Desks I managed.)

Question: I really liked the old “Subject”’ (whatever it was called, I forgot) line on Replies. That appears to be gone now. No heartbreaker, but it was a nice touch (IMNERHO, of course) to be able to lead off with a pithy sentence to summarize the upcoming post. The existing “Subject” lines are gone too. (I only use the “Simple Post Editor”, but if I have to change to the ‘Complicated’ (“non-Simple”) one — oh, well.)

PS: Speaking of professional programmers, did you forget that “The first half of a project takes the first 90% of the time; the second half takes the other 90% of the time.”

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Buwuve wrote:
Formerly the location of the members where shown
I’d like to revise and extend my last comment and add my vote that this most-useful feature be restored. Dittos to Buwuve and the Green Lantern.

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Help please. I tired to add a picture in a reply to a post. I used the same method I always do. It didn’t work. The ‘save’ and ‘preview’ buttons were not highlighted. Can some tell me how with the change, thank you!

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Re: the subject line. Subject line is only needed once when the original post is being made. Having it change like it used to didn’t seem to make a lot of sense.

SB, I didn’t realize the update was mainly about security. that definitely is number one reason to make changes. Mobile friendly would be nice sometime.

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Wow looks really slick SB. Keep up the great work!

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1. Subject line on each post _ Not a big deal. Already don’t even notice it’s missing.

2. Emoticons with asterisks, like scratch_one-s_head and smile don’t work.

3. No longer can respond directly using only emoticons. Not a big deal. Members will quickly learn how to deal with it, by adding text or a space. (You can even add then immediately delete the text or space to get the emoticons to “stick”.)

4. As noted by TK and others, the direct link to post addresses works like a charm. :HAPPY:

5. Text Format interface has been simplified. Much of the visual clutter is gone. Nice change.

6. I miss my listing of posts that used to be under My Account. Is that feature permanently gone under this revision? Or has it been relocated somewhere else?

Rule 1-1 as it applies to life, take it as it comes.

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People are asking about the location thing. It’s still there, you just click the username to see it. Like 1dash1 is in Hilo, Hawaii.
Personally, that is more than good enough. It’s one less thing being repeated down the page.

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The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of alternative facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists"

 

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I noticed from the recent page you can click on the new post on a thread, but if you click on the thread itself it opens and says “X new”, but you can’t click on it to get to the first new post.

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of alternative facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists"

 

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I noticed from the recent page you can click on the new post on a thread, but if you click on the thread itself it opens and says “X new”, but you can’t click on it to get to the first new post.

Hmm, seems to work for me. Is it possibly the issue I mentioned earlier in this thread where slow-loading images cause the page to “bounce” even though it starts off loading at the right post?

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a better email notification system.

Waiting for it, I am missing it.

Yes I know that you make heavy use of the email notifications. Meanwhile don’t forget about the My Subscriptions page for keeping track of activity in your subscribed posts. The page with its new post notifications is still working fine, it’s just the email notifications that are broken.

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Is there any other way to detect proximity?

As someone else mentioned, you can just click on the user’s profile to see what they have filled in for the location. But I’ll still try to figure out a way to get it back on the user’s details in the thread.

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arekm wrote:
These all dns problems in 99% cases come from change done incorrectly and not from “dns being slow”.

DNS zone contains TTL record which informs dns resolvers how long they can cache information. Properly done move is like this:
- assuming current TTL is 4 days (for example) -> lower TTL to 5 minutes
- wait 4 days until all cache entries on resolvers are known to expire
- then do changes (remember that TTL is only 5 minutes now, so that’s how long resolvers will cache the information)
- changes can also include restoring TTL to old value

https://www.dnswatch.info/articles/dns-update

Yeah, I tried to change the TTL a few days before starting the migration, but my registrar told me they don’t allow changing it, and that it’s only set to 3600 seconds anyway.

I think the few remaining users with DNS problems still are the ones on corporate networks with local DNS caches that aren’t being refreshed.

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Dimbo The Blinky wrote:
First impression, I like the new Look.

It still looks like snot in a sock on my monitor, but that’s Winders’ fault as much as anybody’s. The ad at the top is wider than the screen, so I sometimes get the Horizontal Thumb because of the ads. No “Width=100%” on ads, eh?


Actually I was thinking about this too. But that would also create other problems such as massive 100% banners on a normal screen in maximized mode.

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PS: Speaking of professional programmers, did you forget that “The first half of a project takes the first 90% of the time; the second half takes the other 90% of the time.”

Ha, isn’t that the truth!

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saypat wrote:
Help please. I tired to add a picture in a reply to a post. I used the same method I always do. It didn’t work. The ‘save’ and ‘preview’ buttons were not highlighted. Can some tell me how with the change, thank you!

Hmm, it seems to work for me with the Simple Post Editor:

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sb56637 wrote:
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I noticed from the recent page you can click on the new post on a thread, but if you click on the thread itself it opens and says “X new”, but you can’t click on it to get to the first new post.

Hmm, seems to work for me. Is it possibly the issue I mentioned earlier in this thread where slow-loading images cause the page to “bounce” even though it starts off loading at the right post?


Perhaps i have not explained it well, if i see a page that says for example “2 new” i can click on “2 new” and it goes to the right post
If i click on the thread and not “2 new”, it opens from the start, it says 2 new near the top right, but there is not a link to go to the first new post like there used to be.

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of alternative facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists"

 

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And in the Advanced Post Editor:

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Bort wrote:
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Bort wrote:
I noticed from the recent page you can click on the new post on a thread, but if you click on the thread itself it opens and says “X new”, but you can’t click on it to get to the first new post.

Hmm, seems to work for me. Is it possibly the issue I mentioned earlier in this thread where slow-loading images cause the page to “bounce” even though it starts off loading at the right post?


Perhaps i have not explained it well, if i see a page that says for example “2 new” i can click on “2 new” and it goes to the right post
If i click on the thread and not “2 new”, it opens from the start, it says 2 new near the top right, but there is not a link to go to the first new post like there used to be.

Ah sorry, gotcha now. Did you try the “First unread” button?

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sb56637 wrote:
Bort wrote:
sb56637 wrote:
Bort wrote:
I noticed from the recent page you can click on the new post on a thread, but if you click on the thread itself it opens and says “X new”, but you can’t click on it to get to the first new post.

Hmm, seems to work for me. Is it possibly the issue I mentioned earlier in this thread where slow-loading images cause the page to “bounce” even though it starts off loading at the right post?


Perhaps i have not explained it well, if i see a page that says for example “2 new” i can click on “2 new” and it goes to the right post
If i click on the thread and not “2 new”, it opens from the start, it says 2 new near the top right, but there is not a link to go to the first new post like there used to be.

Ah sorry, gotcha now. Did you try the “First unread” button?


I did not notice it, i used to click on the X new, legacy knowledge scratch_one-s_head
sorry about that

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

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