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I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will be through Amazon, but subject to Sofirn’s final decision.
I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will not be exclusively through Amazon or most of the world and many on the list could not buy their LT1.

I probably post more info here than is necessary, as it only stirs things up that are out of my control. The details I assume are still being worked out. As I stated, Sofirn makes the final decision, not sbslider. However, I did read in our group chat recently a very long list of countries which Amazon will ship to. It’s my impression that the LT1 will be available on several different amazon sites, not just the US one. I will refrain from posting any more speculation regarding these details regarding if/how/when the LT1 will be available. To quote someone on here, it will be ready when its ready. And a new quotable, it will be available from who the manufacturer makes it available from.

see below the list of countries Barry from Sofirn believes can purchase from amazon:

Still, this approach (of the available shipping destination country list Barry gave to promote Amazon purchase) ignores that there are a fairly large portion of customers, who still prefer buying Sofirn on AliExpress (and wouldn’t want to use Amazon at all).

Manual price adjustment after stopping the order (and telling BLF username) before paying would be the best for those people – there were already previous group buys organized like that.

So I will sit, listen and hope for that scenario until there are more new info available.

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I did not know that, looks an impressive amount of countries. I hope that the free shipping and cost-free customs passing that is common for chinese packages will work just as well through Amazon, or better. I’m ok I think, Amazon-de is within the EU.

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I did not know that, looks an impressive amount of countries. I hope that the free shipping and cost-free customs passing that is common for chinese packages will work just as well through Amazon, or better. I’m ok I think, Amazon-de is within the EU.

At first thought, amazon de could have also worked for me, but I guess, there will be shipping prices like 15-25 EUR, and that will greatly hinder the discount given by the original group price agreement.

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@sbslider I just know that at the moment all the offers from Sofirn on amazon won’t be shipped to Switzerland. It is possible for sellers to ship to Switzerland, but most of them do not want the hassle and opt out of all countries except the ones that are part of the EU customs union.

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So.. What is Sofirn’s Amazon.de store, is it the “77 Outdoor” store?
Looking at the seller information and comparing to the AliExpress business license they seem to match, 8th floor Ji’anju building etc etc.

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I did not know that, looks an impressive amount of countries. I hope that the free shipping and cost-free customs passing that is common for chinese packages will work just as well through Amazon, or better. I’m ok I think, Amazon-de is within the EU.

At first thought, amazon de could have also worked for me, but I guess, there will be shipping prices like 15-25 EUR, and that will greatly hinder the discount given by the original group price agreement.

Not exactly. You’re from Hungary? If an item is dispatched from and sold by Amazon or Fulfilled by Amazon (=sent by Amazon from their warehouse) then it looks like Standard Delivery to Hungary is 5.99€. Express Delivery would be 8.99€.
https://www.amazon.de/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_gt_dd_intldel...

Of course there should be VAT included in the prices so there’s that. Not sure what the price of LT1 will be on Amazon.

But of the dozen Sofirn flashlights I looked at on Amazon.de sold by 77 Outdoor almost all were Fulfilled by Amazon.
And those that were not, as in dispatched from and sold by 77 Outdoor i.e. from China, say Free Delivery on them. But at that point it makes no difference to buy on Amazon or on AliExpress since that item will ship from China.

Edit: Oh and let’s not forget that Amazon.de offers free Standard Delivery to certain EU countries if the order amount exceeds a certain amount. This applies to dispatched from and sold by Amazon and Fulfilled by Amazon products.
29€ limit: Belgium, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and the Netherlands.
39€ limit: Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland (yey), Poland and Sweden

Of course there’s also Amazon Prime stuff but this post is long enough already.

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IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

My username is correct, just the quantity to be updated to a total of two. Thank you!

I already have you in for 2.
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If it is not too late I would like to add two more lights to the group buy for a total of four lights. I currently have #769 and #1631.

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FWIW, one can navigate to their BLF account and send themselves a Personal Message to verify they are setup for the upcoming LT1 PM. 

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Please add 2 to my order.

Should be at a total of 3 now.

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Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL30R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.

Corrected a typo lol

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FWIW, one can navigate to their BLF account and send themselves a Personal Message to verify they are setup for the upcoming LT1 PM. 

That would only confirm that they can get a PM. However it doesn’t confirm that their BLF user name is correct in my database which is the source that will be used for sending out the LT PM. I know for a fact that there is a WWWW entry (#117) on the list that does not exist in BLF and as such that person won’t be getting a LT PM.

Since it only takes a few minutes (and is a 1-time thing) to verify the accuracy of one’s name in the linked Excel files I think it behooves everyone to do so.

In addition since it appears that sending out a PM for each lantern requested with a unique code is on the boards everyone should also verify that their count is correct as they will only be getting as many PM’s as I have them in for.

I could also send out a test PM to everyone and see which one’s are rejected but I don’t think that people will be happy getting spam’ed Smile

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sovereignknight wrote:
Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL130R. Since I already own that, I can't justify the price on the LT1.

Yes you can!

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sovereignknight wrote:
Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL130R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.

The Fenix CL30R is over $100 US. The LT1 group buy is half that. Spend $13 more and get 4× 3000mAh batteries compared to the Fenix 3× 2600mAh. The only real feature disparity I see that benefits the Fenix is use as a power bank.

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

Fresh Sanyo NCR18650GAs already wrapped "for sale HERE":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69120 if you like.

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sovereignknight wrote:
Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL130R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.
Not really since the price you’re seeing on Sofirn’s AliExpress page is not the BLF discount price which is going to be around $50 (depending on options of course).

Edited to say that amishbill beat me to the punch Smile

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SIGShooter wrote:
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Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL130R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.
Not really since the price you’re seeing on Sofirn’s AliExpress page is not the BLF discount price which is going to be around $50 (depending on options of course).

Edited to say that amishbill beat me to the punch Smile


I would have been faster but I spent time trying to find a Fenix CL130R which does not seem to be a real product. Hat

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

Fresh Sanyo NCR18650GAs already wrapped "for sale HERE":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69120 if you like.

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Looking at the Fenix CL130R specs the BLF lantern look much better to me even if the prices were the same. Which they’re not of course.

Better performance and features at half the price….seems like an easy decision to me Smile

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SIGShooter wrote:
Looking at the Fenix CL130R specs the BLF lantern look much better to me even if the prices were the same. Which they’re not of course.

Better performance and features at half the price….seems like an easy decision to me Smile


Where did you find a CL130R? The closest I could find is a CL30R.

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

Fresh Sanyo NCR18650GAs already wrapped "for sale HERE":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69120 if you like.

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SIGShooter wrote:
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FWIW, one can navigate to their BLF account and send themselves a Personal Message to verify they are setup for the upcoming LT1 PM. 

That would only confirm that they can get a PM. However it doesn't confirm that their BLF user name is correct in my database which is the source that will be used for sending out the LT PM. I know for a fact that there is a WWWW entry (#117) on the list that does not exist in BLF and as such that person won't be getting a LT PM. Since it only takes a few minutes (and is a 1-time thing) to verify the accuracy of one's name in the linked Excel files I think it behooves everyone to do so. In addition since it appears that sending out a PM for each lantern requested with a unique code is on the boards everyone should also verify that their count is correct as they will only be getting as many PM's as I have them in for. I could also send out a test PM to everyone and see which one's are rejected but I don't think that people will be happy getting spam'ed :)

OK, it is a two step process: First go to the spreadsheet link and verify your BLF name, and then send yourself a PM. I think sending everyone a practice PM, may cause a lot of confusion IMHO.

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amishbill wrote:
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sovereignknight wrote:
Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL130R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.
Not really since the price you’re seeing on Sofirn’s AliExpress page is not the BLF discount price which is going to be around $50 (depending on options of course).

Edited to say that amishbill beat me to the punch Smile


I would have been faster but I spent time trying to find a Fenix CL130R which does not seem to be a real product. Hat
Hahaha…I spent some time Googling too and it appears that it can only be bought directly from Fenix.
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FWIW, one can navigate to their BLF account and send themselves a Personal Message to verify they are setup for the upcoming LT1 PM. 


That would only confirm that they can get a PM. However it doesn’t confirm that their BLF user name is correct in my database which is the source that will be used for sending out the LT PM. I know for a fact that there is a WWWW entry (#117) on the list that does not exist in BLF and as such that person won’t be getting a LT PM. Since it only takes a few minutes (and is a 1-time thing) to verify the accuracy of one’s name in the linked Excel files I think it behooves everyone to do so. In addition since it appears that sending out a PM for each lantern requested with a unique code is on the boards everyone should also verify that their count is correct as they will only be getting as many PM’s as I have them in for. I could also send out a test PM to everyone and see which one’s are rejected but I don’t think that people will be happy getting spam’ed Smile

OK, it is a two step process: First go to the spreadsheet link and verify your BLF name, and then send yourself a PM. I think sending everyone a practice PM, may cause a lot of confusion IMHO.

Right which is why I’m not going to, or even ever planned on, sending out a test PM.

I think for the most part that just going to the spreadsheet and visually verifying that one’s name is correct is good enough. But the extra step you suggested is definitely the definitive test.

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amishbill wrote:
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Looking at the Fenix CL130R specs the BLF lantern look much better to me even if the prices were the same. Which they’re not of course.

Better performance and features at half the price….seems like an easy decision to me Smile


Where did you find a CL130R? The closest I could find is a CL30R.
I only found the CL30R so I assumed that was what he meant Smile
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If the group buy is on Amazon, will it still ship slow boat style from mainland China or is there already a supply present in the US for prime shipping?

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First go to the spreadsheet link and verify your BLF name, and then send yourself a PM. I think sending everyone a practice PM, may cause a lot of confusion IMHO.[/quote]



when I click on spreadsheet link I get “Page Not Found”.

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What is the story with the “Batch 2” (with firmware corrections)?
What was corrected or changed and how does a person know which one to get or which one they will be getting?

Also I can’t use aliexpress. It doesn’t work on my computer. Where else can I buy one?

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If the group buy is on Amazon, will it still ship slow boat style from mainland China or is there already a supply present in the US for prime shipping?

I think most things come on the slow boat, but some have been shipped in advance and stored in a warehouse here in the states. For this, I’m not sure it would be any faster to ship it to a warehouse first. Amazon fulfillment is pretty awesome though, so it might.

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First go to the spreadsheet link and verify your BLF name, and then send yourself a PM. I think sending everyone a practice PM, may cause a lot of confusion IMHO.
When I click on spreadsheet link I get “Page Not Found”.
The link wasn’t properly formatted. Try this spreadsheet link instead.
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I’m rooting for Amazon as many of us have reward points to offset the price even further Silly

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I admire you Lux-Perpetua - you have made the LT1 manual great and on time!  Most people have no idea how difficult it is to do what you have accomplished! Thank you!

Thanks for your kind words ActiveAI. Smile But it's a collaborative success with everyone's contribution. BLF and this very lantern here are some of those outstanding examples proving that collective work can bring up great things to life. We should not forget to say 'thank you' to Sofirn for listening to the voice of the customer and for building this amazing lantern.

As with many things, once done it looks easy. But when the drawing board is empty, or the page blank, it's really different. And it takes special experience to note it, congrats to you ActiveAI.

Great job to everyone involved!

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Merci beaucoup pour ton aide, fneuf! Smile

I have incorporated most of your suggestions and rectified all typos you have found out. I have uploaded this new revision onto your working folder for the French translation. I have also put you on the credit list as part of the team (I hope DBSAR & the team won't mind) Wink

The new revision is also uploaded to the public shared folder, see link in the OP of this thread for further information.

Sofirn will receive the final (I mean it! Big Smile ) revision of October 8, 2019 by tomorrow, so chances will be good to get it together with batch #2.

Seeing it might be a tight fit on the schedule, you can also send them my current version of the french translation. Litteraly only 2 paragraphs remains untranslated (for which I have opened questions). Of course I might still find my own typos, or add little tweaks, etc. Like for sure I will need a proofreading session to consider the job fully done.

But as something like 98% (and it's a conservative figure) of the manual is translated, I believe it's quite better than nothing for all the french-speakers that will be in the firsts to order the LT1.

Depending on your discussion with Sofirn, you can also tell them they are offered the alternate option to wait a few more hours to get an industrial grade 100% done french translation. I'm quite positive it can be done today.

And thanks for the credit, I'm glad to be part of that Smile

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I Just joined to get one of these if it’s not to late , I would like 3 if that’s ok.

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SIGShooter wrote:
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Ouch. The price is almost that of a Fenix CL130R. Since I already own that, I can’t justify the price on the LT1.
Not really since the price you’re seeing on Sofirn’s AliExpress page is not the BLF discount price which is going to be around $50 (depending on options of course).

Edited to say that amishbill beat me to the punch Smile

$50.00? Now that is far more palatable.

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