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DBSAR wrote:
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IIRC mine stops at 4.17 also. I tend to only charge it until I see 4.1 blinks anyway. Had it for 8 months now, maybe charged it 4 or 5 times? This time of year it doesn’t get used much, but from Oct to Mar/Apr, it got used an hour a day easy. I love candle mode in the morning.

somehow having a sunrise alarm function would be off the charts.

If it had a programmable timer, (for turning it off or on) would be a great option for those who want the LT1 to turn on at a certain time & off at a certain time every day. (especially for those living in remote locations of the North where there are 40 days of night and no sunlight.

Too true. The alarm clock function might be hard to do (as far I understand), the timing is not really swell in these circuits over a period of time.

BUT, I would trade all the blinkies (keeping SOS and Bike for a lantern) for a sunset that could be programed as far as time and how it stepped down.
AND, it needs to be easily started. Like at any brightness, do the Sunset click, and the light winks at me to let me know all is well.
Then the light starts stepping down from that brightness according to the arranged program.
No bright flashes while getting there to blind my night vision.

For example my bedside Olight. Love the TIR, Hate the cold white color.
Two clicks from any brightness, and I get a wink. 2 (or3?) minutes later it turns off.
Need more time, 2 more clicks during the time out, and you get 9 minutes(?) before going dark.

For years my bedside light was an old Eternalight. Remember these?

It started out a full brightness – a whopping 15? Lumens.
Every few minutes it would drop one level, and give a little pulse. After a while it would turn off.
The step down let me know that it was going to go dark. And if I wanted more light, I’d better push some buttons.

I think I remember TK once mentioning that the Eternalight was the inspiration for some of her features.
I like the adjustable strobe for flashlights, nifty for freezing motion.

Too timid to reprogram it myself. I’d end up with a brick fro sure.

Still, it’s the best lantern the world has seen to date.
All the Best,
Jeff

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I have a request for someone who has experience and is willing to do circuit board drawings and upload it to Oshpark (as I can not do that)

Here is the LT1 ledboard:

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The request is to draw a commonly from Oshpark orderable frp replacement ledboard for 2×20 standard 3030-size midpower leds, so 20xwarm and 20xcool. If the warm and cool leds can be mixed well (as far as the traces allow), the tint mixing of the lantern will profit.
This makes the LT1 suitable for the entire range of available standard midpower leds, including Optisolis, SunLike, and all the others.
….
Of course if someone dares to have real MCPCB’s for 3030 leds made and sold, that would even be better. But it all starts with the design.

I had a similar idea to this 6 month old post from djozz, and his suggestion is the only post that seems to have turned up in my search.

I just wanted to add that if anybody does this, I’m interested as well – thin FRP or flex PCB from Oshpark, or else an MCPCB in a group buy.

Or perhaps Clemence might be interested? The LH351D’s are pretty good, but I’d love to how the lantern looks with Optisolis or E17A’s in there, and perhaps try a slightly different CCT range.

I guess I’ll bring this up again – I recognize there might simply be no one browsing the thread with the time and skills to design a custom emitter PCB for this lantern as a mod option.

But is anybody else at least interested in alternative emitter options? Usually there’s a decent number of people eagerly looking for even higher color performance than R9050 equivalent and a slight green tint on the cool end. Should we keep a conversation simmering about this or let it go?

I’ve begged them many times to offer a a 4000k and Red XP-E2’s. The red is nice for a “Camping Lantern”, to not attract bugs. I’ve even asked them to send me a board, and I’ll do it myself. Barry said he would send one months ago, but never did

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You could use a red filter… create something that would wrap around the outside of the translucent cover, so you can remove it when needed.

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A red filter applied on the outside would significantly decrease LT1's overall brightness while red light from XP-E2 LEDs would be much more efficient. I would also love to see an updated or enhanced version of LT1 with either additional XP-E2 photo red (660nm) on the PCB or - taking RobertB's idea into consideration - Sofirn could use LH351D 4.000K 90CRI plus XP-E2 (photo) red and maybe remove the tint ramping feature but use the free space on the MCU for some nice red light modes. Barry was a bit worried what to do with all the XP-E2 photo red that were sourced for C01R - here comes the great opportunity to use them in another fantastic light.

Anyway, I just encouraged Barry to have a look at this idea. He is thrilled about it and would like to discuss further options. I think it's the best to have these options discussed within the LT1 team with Dennis, Lexel, ToyKeeper etc. first to see what's feasible and reasonable.

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DBSAR wrote:
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I guess I’ll bring this up again – I recognize there might simply be no one browsing the thread with the time and skills to design a custom emitter PCB for this lantern as a mod option.

But is anybody else at least interested in alternative emitter options? Usually there’s a decent number of people eagerly looking for even higher color performance than R9050 equivalent and a slight green tint on the cool end. Should we keep a conversation simmering about this or let it go?

I do have the original design drawing, but the production one has been changed a little from that.

That’s good to know. If I end up having time to learn a PCB design program, I might be interested in seeing it for reference. Currently, unfortunately, I’ve got too much going on to take on a hobby project.

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I’ve begged them many times to offer a a 4000k and Red XP-E2’s. The red is nice for a “Camping Lantern”, to not attract bugs. I’ve even asked them to send me a board, and I’ll do it myself. Barry said he would send one months ago, but never did

That’s an interesting idea. I think it would be good if they are able to offer the board for sale, although since those are emitters with an XP footprint, reflowing the included board is an option.

I wonder if the low forward voltage of the red XP-E2 would cause any issues with mixing. I wouldn’t think so, but I don’t really know.

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

A red filter applied on the outside would significantly decrease LT1’s overall brightness while red light from XP-E2 LEDs would be much more efficient. I would also love to see an updated or enhanced version of LT1 with either additional XP-E2 photo red (660nm) on the PCB or – taking RobertB’s idea into consideration – Sofirn could use LH351D 4.000K 90CRI plus XP-E2 (photo) red and maybe remove the tint ramping feature but use the free space on the MCU for some nice red light modes. Barry was a bit worried what to do with all the XP-E2 photo red that were sourced for C01R – here comes the great opportunity to use them in another fantastic light.


Anyway, I just encouraged Barry to have a look at this idea. He is thrilled about it and would like to discuss further options. I think it’s the best to have these options discussed within the LT1 team with Dennis, Lexel, ToyKeeper etc. first to see what’s feasible and reasonable.

I see what you mean. Yes, with wanting to maintain maximum output, an external filter would be a detriment. Considering how the auxiliary LED’s appearing in Astrolux, Emisar, and FireFlies has been popular, you’d think a circuit could be designed to allow for auxiliary ones driven at higher amperage in the LT1, allowing for bright red or amber emitters. This way it wouldn’t cut into the existing temperature function of the main emitters. Then in UI you can click over into AUX control, to run independently or even simultaneously with the mains.
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Just received my LT1 and I am impressed! Thank you to Sofirn, DBSAR and everyone involved in developing this lantern. I am a flashlight and headlamp guy and not into lanterns but this lantern is amazing! What a great price too. Wow.

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Ok, maybe a stupid question

Is there an option for smooth ramping without tint change?
I would like the 2700 K all the way from low to high, for now it starts either warm and ends cool and vice versa

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Yokiamy wrote:
Ok, maybe a stupid question

Is there an option for smooth ramping without tint change?
I would like the 2700 K all the way from low to high, for now it starts either warm and ends cool and vice versa

Sounds like you have auto tint ramping turned on. When the tint reaches the end of its ramp, it will quickly flash to let you know the limit has been reached. If you continue holding, it will flash again indicating that it has entered auto tint ramp mode.

Ramp the tint back up a little (click-click-hold) and then back down to 2700K and let go of the switch as soon as it reaches the end. That should exit auto tint mode.

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Thanx Rayoui!

That’s it! That did the trick.
That part is not directly stated in the flowchart, couldn’t get it from the manual directly.

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I have been off-line for a while with a work change, but I finally got a chance to go camping this weekend. My children (age 20 and 15) stole my LT1. We used it on the picnic table as a family, so I did enjoy it, but I was hoping to use the Lightening mode and bedtime mode. Didn’t get a chance. I was going to wait for the different anodization colors, but I think I’ll just take black at this point.

I have sent Sofirm a Private message requesting my remaining two codes, where are they selling them these days? Amazon? BangGood?

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… I have sent Sofirm a Private message requesting my remaining two codes, where are they selling them these days? Amazon? BangGood?

Or, you can go direct at https://sofirnlight.com/blf-lt1-lantern-tint-ramping-2700k-5000k-p0123.html

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

Fresh Sanyo NCR18650GAs already wrapped "for sale HERE":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69120 if you like.

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Lazy-R-us wrote:

I have sent Sofirm a Private message requesting my remaining two codes,


I would be sort of surprised if Sofirn is still doing codes, its been 8 months since the lantern came out. But if you get one, let us know as I’ve got a 2 or 3 code entries I’ve not used yet.

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I seem to remember Sofirn saying that anyone who wanted to wait for the coloured LT1s would be able to ask for new codes when they became available?

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Phlogiston wrote:
I seem to remember Sofirn saying that anyone who wanted to wait for the coloured LT1s would be able to ask for new codes when they became available?

This was my understanding also, which is why I haven’t purchased another 3 lanterns yet.

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Old Davo wrote:
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I seem to remember Sofirn saying that anyone who wanted to wait for the coloured LT1s would be able to ask for new codes when they became available?

This was my understanding also, which is why I haven’t purchased another 3 lanterns yet.

That’s what they said…… still waiting for 2 colored(green/tan) ~~~~~ Beer Beer

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I’ve got a black one.
Now waiting for a RED one,
All the Best,
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Sofirn recently cancelled one of my BLF LT1 orders on their own because they hadn’t shipped it in over 30 days. When I contacted them about it, they said they were out of stock and are hoping to have another production run sometime in July.

I just received my first order last week after 53 days. What an amazing piece of kit! I’ve been using it every single night. Absolutely solid construction, to the point that I’m worried about dropping it. Not that it would get harmed, rather it feels like it’d crack the floor tiles. I have an EDC18, so the UI’s familiar and makes great sense with this lantern. The LEDs…are amazing. The high CRI makes a huge difference. At 2700K, it puts out nicer light than the Philips LED bulbs I have here. The illuminated button is great too, almost a night light.

Could someone tell me what the trim pot is supposed to do? I have a Rev 5.0 board in mine. I’ve seen mentions in the thread that it’s for the locator light, but it doesn’t seem to do anything on mine.

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FollowspotDude wrote:
Could someone tell me what the trim pot is supposed to do? I have a Rev 5.0 board in mine. I’ve seen mentions in the thread that it’s for the locator light, but it doesn’t seem to do anything on mine.

it’s my understanding that it’s for modders. stock it has no function.
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DudeMan wrote:
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Could someone tell me what the trim pot is supposed to do? I have a Rev 5.0 board in mine. I’ve seen mentions in the thread that it’s for the locator light, but it doesn’t seem to do anything on mine.

it’s my understanding that it’s for modders. stock it has no function.

agreed, I removed if from my LT1. No change in performance or utility. Also no risk in it damaging cells or getting ripped off by a cell. Not sure why we didn’t ask for it to just be removed on rev 5.0, other than like DudeMan said, perhaps a modder could do something with it.

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no issue for me with button tops (protected 35E) Rev 5.0
for best results in my opinion, just get button tops.

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Ordered 5/16 arrived 7/1 – Full kit with batteries and case.

The case fits perfect BTW – Charging cable and extra gasket rings along with usage manual.

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^ Looks great! Thanks for sharing the photos.

I’m a little confused about the old stock that Sofirn is still trying to get rid of. On the SofirnLight.com website, shipping is indicated as anywhere from 14 to 28 business days. But then on AliExpress, the Sofirn store shows delivery as soon as 7 business days. Are they all shipping from the same warehouse and only one delivery estimate is correct?

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This is my favorite and most used light I’ve ever bought by far (granted, I only have about 20). Thank you DBSAR and Sofirn.

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SerenityNow wrote:
This is my favorite and most used light I’ve ever bought by far (granted, I only have about 20). Thank you DBSAR and Sofirn.

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I have over $1k in w30, BLF GT’s, BLF GT90’s. that have been used maybe a dozen times. …. The $100 I spent on the 2 BLF LT1’s is the best $ spent cause I use them every day! thanks DBSAR and LT1 team!!

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jeff51 wrote:
… a sunset that could be programed as far as time and how it stepped down. AND, it needs to be easily started. Like at any brightness, do the Sunset click, and the light winks at me to let me know all is well. … For years my bedside light was an old Eternalight. Remember these?

I’ve been wanting that too… and considering how to redo it so the sunset mode would be configurable. The main difficulty is finding a convenient place to fit it into the UI without colliding with other functions. I’m thinking they could ramp to the desired brightness, do some button clicks, and it would turn on a timer like what happens in candle mode. Repeat the clicks to make the timer longer. Not sure about the details, though.

I’ve also been thinking about how to rewrite muggle mode to make it better, and enable it by default so new users have a simple mode until they decide they want more. The general idea is to remove “muggle mode” entirely, and instead have sort of an overlay which blocks access to advanced features. The user could remove the restrictions by doing a a button click sequence, something which would be difficult to do by accident.

So it would be in the “normal UI” by default, and reset to normal mode after each factory reset… and it would work pretty much like a “normal” flashlight. But if the user bothers to read the manual, they could enable the “advanced UI” to get the full feature set.

I might also do some other changes which break backward compatibility, and rename the firmware to “Anduril2” or something. There have been a bunch of things I’ve wanted to change but haven’t because of compatibility… but perhaps I can change those all at once.

RobertB wrote:
Red XP-E2’s. The red is nice for a “Camping Lantern”, to not attract bugs.

We’ve been looking into the feasibility of adding a third power channel for red, in addition to the warm white and cool white LEDs. It sounds like it’s relatively straightforward to do in terms of the driver and the firmware. If it happens, I’d implement it as an extension to the tint ramp, or perhaps a red/white toggle… so it would still work in every UI mode, and would simply be a different “tint”. Like, if you ramp all the way to the warm end of the ramp and keep holding the button long enough, it would go into red mode.

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TK,
If Apple can tell the world “Hey we’re changing the OS. So adapt or die. And buy all new software to get things done.”
And when they move to the next CPU format, it’s going to happen again – Big Time.
So – I’ve got no problems with a new Anduril 2.0.
All the Best,
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ToyKeeper wrote:
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Red XP-E2’s. The red is nice for a “Camping Lantern”, to not attract bugs.

We’ve been looking into the feasibility of adding a third power channel for red, in addition to the warm white and cool white LEDs. It sounds like it’s relatively straightforward to do in terms of the driver and the firmware. If it happens, I’d implement it as an extension to the tint ramp, or perhaps a red/white toggle… so it would still work in every UI mode, and would simply be a different “tint”. Like, if you ramp all the way to the warm end of the ramp and keep holding the button long enough, it would go into red mode.

I could totally get onboard with that, thanks.

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Does Sofirn have any plans to sell the lens and ledboard individually?

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