Q8, PMS SEND TO THOSE WITH ISSUES BLF soda can light

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So both of mine have the switch LED asymmetry — one green LED quite bright (on the same side as the “BLF”), the other (on the “Q8” side) quite dim.

Just reporting for statistical purpuses, the appearance doesn’t bother me.
I’m puzzled and wonder if it’s related to the flickering others have experienced.
I’m leaving mine lit up in case the flicker takes a while to emerge.

All respect to ThorFire for doing the QC. If the problem began with a beancounter buying cheap parts, I hope that gets identified as the actual problem.
It so often is not caused by the guys on the production line putting things together. As with aviation, problems often are initiated days before and far from where they appear.

“There’s three kinds of testers: alpha, beta, and ‘sorry Charlie’” — a programmer.

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I rotated the switch assembly on my proto, in case of uneven brightness I would do the same and have the brightest one at the highest point , brings back symmetry Wink

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I'm finding good results with Samsung 35E's, but with DIY solder tops added.

One eBay source sold out of them already - I bought a set of 8 for $40.49 from this eBay store, all seemed good, but he's all sold out now. Just order another set of 8 from eBay here for the same price, just shipped, not received yet, so can't vouch for this source yet.

Again, important to understand they need soldered or added tops of some sort, but still $40 shipped for 8 of these cells is a pretty good deal.

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nishayume wrote:
Im trying to remove the button holder , but im scratching all my q8 button screw.
So i end touching this, i wait until howto to know tools i need etc

Thanks again to all!

I use snap ring pliers to loosen bezel, then a toothpick to unthread. Some of these type of pliers have interchangable tips of different sizes.

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Are those pictures showing how to rotate the switch LED position?

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I rotated the switch assembly

Or — I’d assume — you need to get at the circuit board underneath the plastic cover to rotate the LEDs?

For me the brightness asymmetry is in the “if you fiddle with it long enough you’re going to break it” category
(thanks, Mom, for that good lifetime advice)

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The pics I posted was removing bezel & button cover for our friend from Spain.

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Here is hypothetical question. For the 4 or 5 out of 500 with indicator issues: would you be interested in returning your q8 to thorfire if return shipping was 100 percent free? Just curious to see what the actual impact of this issue

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More better now… Big Smile
Link to what I used.

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 So on the 7th I ordered 4x 5m led strip rolls from BangGood shipped via "Standard Free Shipping".  Not long later, within the hour at most, I ordered the 3 Q8's with their "Priority Air Mail".  They all shipped on the 8th and the Q8's were pre-order numbers 1xx.  The led rolls turned up yesterday and there's still no sign of the Q8's.

 

Now, this isn't a complaint, just an observation I find amusing that free, slow shipping arrived before priority air shipping.  To make the wait even more unbearable fun, we've had other multiple deliveries and the family are starting to tease with "Ooooh, is this your torches?  Nope, it's my ____"  whenever a parcel arrives.  Rotten lot they are.

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My first one has been picked up from the post office. Can’t find any faults with it.

Can’t wait now till its get dark outside.

2nd one will be picked up saturday and get the lexel driver (in stock) and pink leds (on order).

Ordering a 3rd one for a colleauge and probably a few more now. This is a very nice light. Sturdy feel to it too.

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JorisFRST, if you can, please take pictures through the process of swapping the LEDs.
For those of us who need a good example to follow.

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Hello! Impresive thank your very much, im going to buy this tool i dont have :D.

I can relax now hehe.

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I left the switch LED on overnight, and had no issues. It’s one awesome light! Big Smile

I will say that the Narsil firmware is feature rich, yet a little difficult to navigate. The ramping is INCREDIBLE! Love it. But navigating to and from modes, or the configuration menu is still beyond me at this point. I watched some youtube videos on the firmware and I’m still learning.

Overall, this light is a home run! I haven’t placed the order for my second one yet… I think I am going to wait until we find out when production will start back up.

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For those of you who’ve mastered the spaghetti diagram of the UI, a plea

Could you set out some of the useful series-of-clicks combinations?

For example, as noted above:

doubleclick, doubleclick, click — police strobe
doubleclick, doubleclick, doubleclick — bike “stutter” strobe

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hank wrote:
For those of you who’ve mastered the spaghetti diagram of the UI, a plea

Could you set out some of the useful series-of-clicks combinations?

For example, as noted above:

doubleclick, doubleclick, click — police strobe
doubleclick, doubleclick, doubleclick — bike “stutter” strobe

Factory Reset:

Ramping mode, From OFF or ON : 3x click > 2x click > 2x click > press and hold 1-2 seconds will blink 4 times to confirm reset.

Edit: same thing starting from ON in ramping mode.

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I’ve been watching my tracking and found that one of my two that were ordered a few minutes apart was to be delivered today, and the second Thursday. Mailman came and went, rechecked tracking and now both to be delivered Thursday. AUUUUG. So I took a chance, got the tracking number and went to the post office. I am now playing with my Q8!

ANNND almost immediately managed to put it in discreet mode rather than ramping. And now I can’t figure out how to factory reset. I think I’ve managed to set the moon mode so low the LED’s don’t come on also. Can we get a Factory Reset from discreet mode combo posted please?

Finish is great. Indicator seems to be fine. Feels solid and dense. Really love the light, still getting used to the UI.

Thanks to everyone on the team.

Lazy-R-us

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Lazy-R-us wrote:
Can we get a Factory Reset from discreet mode combo posted please?

Factory Reset when in MODES not RAMPING mode.

From OFF : Click + Click and hold for 3 seconds > 2x click > 2x click > press and hold 1-2 seconds will blink 4 times to confirm reset.

Edit: Not exactly sure what you mean by discreet mode, but if not in ramping mode then that should be it above.

Using these instructions , I haven’t tried reseting from MODES, Just from RAMPIN as posted earlier.

Edit 2: Put switch to MODES, factory reset as described in this post, worked for me.

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read the manual, it is very simple
in ramping? ramp up, then reverse ramp and keep pressing to enter config (you can do it when ramping up, but the Q8 is kind of bright Smile )
in modes, hold button for 2.5sec
you are in config and first thing you can change is ramping or modes (so it is logical one gets into config playing first time, holding switch in default ramp will start the config cycle and 1 click means modes is chosen Smile )
if you click 1 time, you disable ramping, meaning selecting modes. If you click 2 times here you are in ramping

In post 2 it is written pretty clear, I mean if I can do it, so can anybody who can read English Smile

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I feel like discrete mode is a better description than modes mode – but I have been accused of pedantry on occasion. (But perhaps NOT a great speller!)

Thank you for the help – it would appear that I have now managed to reset back to Ramping mode.

I also discovered that the Moon mode that I had managed to enable DID turn on the LED’s – they gave off LESS light than the switch LED did. I only noticed it when sitting in a completely dark room.

Lazy-R-us

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It's somewhere below 0.1 lumens - pretty amaz'n. Glad ThorFire got the "good" 7135's in volume. They are getting hard for us to find, so they do have some good sourcing for sure.

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Mailman just dropped off my Q8. Very first impression, its much smaller that I thought. I am just getting into this hobby and don’t have experience with the soda can form factor, I just assumed in my head it would be much thicker and chunkier feeling. This light is pretty much perfect in my hands.

I really really really like this light!

In the interest of accumulating data… no flicker issue with the switch indicator LEDs as of yet, but as another user noted, the left side LED is noticeably brighter than the right side LED in the switch.

Again, many thanks to all the guys and girls who did the heavy lifting around here to make this possible. I’ll be putting in my second order shortly.

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rocketshipdog wrote:
Mailman just dropped off my Q8. Very first impression, its much smaller that I thought. I am just getting into this hobby and don't have experience with the soda can form factor, I just assumed in my head it would be much thicker and chunkier feeling. This light is pretty much perfect in my hands. I really really really like this light! In the interest of accumulating data... no flicker issue with the switch indicator LEDs as of yet, but as another user noted, the left side LED is noticeably brighter than the right side LED in the switch. Again, many thanks to all the guys and girls who did the heavy lifting around here to make this possible. I'll be putting in my second order shortly.

You are a neighbor, so free modding for dropoffs! Let me know if you want anything tested, tweaked, etc.

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rocketshipdog wrote:
Mailman just dropped off my Q8. Very first impression, its much smaller that I thought. I am just getting into this hobby and don’t have experience with the soda can form factor, I just assumed in my head it would be much thicker and chunkier feeling. This light is pretty much perfect in my hands. I really really really like this light! In the interest of accumulating data… no flicker issue with the switch indicator LEDs as of yet, but as another user noted, the left side LED is noticeably brighter than the right side LED in the switch. Again, many thanks to all the guys and girls who did the heavy lifting around here to make this possible. I’ll be putting in my second order shortly.

You are a neighbor, so free modding for dropoffs! Let me know if you want anything tested, tweaked, etc.

Ah, I appreciate that! I’m sure I’ll find something at some point I want to change.

Do you know of any documents I could take a look at to really start to understand the nitty gritty as it pertains to this hobby? I’m a network engineer and developer with some soldering skills and experience with arduino and the like… however, I’m having some trouble really finding a place to start from the beginning when it comes to all about these type of light’s internals.

Everyone just kind of expects that you are already an expert on FETs and have an EE degree.

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rocketshipdog wrote:
Mailman just dropped off my Q8. Very first impression, its much smaller that I thought. I am just getting into this hobby and don’t have experience with the soda can form factor, I just assumed in my head it would be much thicker and chunkier feeling. This light is pretty much perfect in my hands.

I really really really like this light!

In the interest of accumulating data… no flicker issue with the switch indicator LEDs as of yet, but as another user noted, the left side LED is noticeably brighter than the right side LED in the switch.

Again, many thanks to all the guys and girls who did the heavy lifting around here to make this possible. I’ll be putting in my second order shortly.

Are the switch indicator LED’s supposed to be like that? One much brighter than the other? Could this be an early sign that it might fail in the future?

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rocketshipdog wrote:
Mailman just dropped off my Q8. Very first impression, its much smaller that I thought. I am just getting into this hobby and don’t have experience with the soda can form factor, I just assumed in my head it would be much thicker and chunkier feeling. This light is pretty much perfect in my hands.

I really really really like this light!

In the interest of accumulating data… no flicker issue with the switch indicator LEDs as of yet, but as another user noted, the left side LED is noticeably brighter than the right side LED in the switch.

Again, many thanks to all the guys and girls who did the heavy lifting around here to make this possible. I’ll be putting in my second order shortly.

Are the switch indicator LED’s supposed to be like that? One much brighter than the other? Could this be an early sign that it might fail in the future?

This could signify lights that had LEDs from two separate manufacturer batches with a different Vf if the resistor value is the issue as amplificus noted. Indeed it could be a way to determine what lights have a combination of two different batch LEDs.

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I’ve received mine today, got the 30Q’s earlier in the week.
It works very well, powerful and a nice combination of flood and throw. Narsil UI is a recipe for instant love for sure.
I have the kinda-sorta but not quite issue of one of the switch LEDs being brighter than the other, enough so that I’m not sure if it’s just one of them on or just a massive difference in brightness. I’ve tried to get an image of it to illustrate, but the lit up button on the background of black aluminium is confusing the autofocus on my cellphone, so those pics just looks like a single blob of light. if I were to try and explain how it looks, the one on the right is bright, and throwing a shadow of the outline of the part of the silicone nub that reaches down to the switch, and there’s a hint of a green glow in this shadow, presumably from the other LED.
I’ll be leaving it with the button led(s) lit to see how it develops, and gonna try to borrow a dslr so that I can get a clear picture of it.

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I got my first of two in the mail today. I’ve had it for about 4 hours now…been playing with it here and there and I’m pleased to report that there are currently no issues with it.

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Mine is still working fine thankfully.

But there is one thing my OCD cant cope with and that is that fully screwed in, so it can be switched on, the lines are not lined up to the top half ;-(
How can that be fixed?

I mean like it shoul;d be either like:

Not like:

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on my bangood account this just showed up
my god what a long wait still………..

Order Placed Date: 2017-09-09 09:06:42 Expected Shipping Date: 2017-10-09 09:06:42

thats pushing 3 weeks still, just to ship…..ughhh…….

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