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silicoon wrote:
... I do not seem to be able to purchase Q8 right now, I read the thread, but is the quality okay? Because I want to get on the car, the size is best for UF and Q8.

All the quality issues we've pointed out are pretty minor - always that ~1% with more serious issues like a scratch or gouge, etc., but the quality issues we are pointing out for the screw, glue, etc. have only a limited effect on power, resulting in at most, roughly a 10% difference between the best and worse, which in the grand scheme of things, is pretty darn good for such a high performance, custom spec'd light.

You gotta look at these things in relative terms, and of 9 Q8's I've gotten in my hands, all 9 worked out of the box, seem to be perfect in exterior condition, no finger prints on the glass, reflectors look perfect, beam tint between all 9 seem to match perfectly. Yes, they have had a share of over tightened somewhat damaged screws, and some glue where it shouldn't be, but those issues do not effect the operation/reliability, and only a limited effect on performance. Again, roughly 10% difference between the best and worse.

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As the Q8 is a bit big for EDC and you know how compact a SK68 is?
This 18650 light is within millimetres the same size. Has a tail switch (not lighted), triple LED AND based on the same UI as the Q8. I expect a newer version of NarsilM

It is another Group Buy here on BLF, lamps should happen next year.

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silicoon wrote:
… I do not seem to be able to purchase Q8 right now, I read the thread, but is the quality okay? Because I want to get on the car, the size is best for UF and Q8.

All the quality issues we’ve pointed out are pretty minor – always that ~1% with more serious issues like a scratch or gouge, etc., but the quality issues we are pointing out for the screw, glue, etc. have only a limited effect on power, resulting in at most, roughly a 10% difference between the best and worse, which in the grand scheme of things, is pretty darn good for such a high performance, custom spec’d light.


You gotta look at these things in relative terms, and of 9 Q8’s I’ve gotten in my hands, all 9 worked out of the box, seem to be perfect in exterior condition, no finger prints on the glass, reflectors look perfect, beam tint between all 9 seem to match perfectly. Yes, they have had a share of over tightened somewhat damaged screws, and some glue where it shouldn’t be, but those issues do not effect the operation/reliability, and only a limited effect on performance. Again, roughly 10% difference between the best and worse.

Thank you for reply Smile
I think a little more…
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Silicoon if you want an SRK/SODA can type light then the Q8 is the one to have at this price.
The few little niggles that have been found on a very few of the first production run (my 2 are fine however) will be ironed out quickly & before you get a light so if I were you I would PM The Miller & get in on the group buy for the Q8 Wink

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One minor thing I noticed is dirt on top of the domes

it would be nice to see Thorfire to inspect and clean the LEDs before the reflector gets assemled

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left out of the box, right the other light cleaned with steel whool

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Got two Q8 today. Really nice toys, thanks a lot to the team!

But – Thorfire should definitely improve packaging for the next batch. I got the lights in a thin bag, the cardboard box only wrapped with a foam sheet. The two small sides of the box were free of protection. Box and tailcap of one light have a big dent, the bag probably fell down on a solid edge during transport. The tailcap is also somewhat bent, you notice it when screwing.
And threads need more lube – there was an awful squeaking when screwing battery tube and tailcap on both lights.

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The lube on mine was pretty much nonexistent.

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Mine have been mixed - some dry, some well lubed threads - clearly an attempt was made on both ends of the battery tube, but if you wipe/clean it off, it's pretty dirty...

Also noticed some minor small nicks/bare alum showing on the square threading. Not sure if even a good HAII will hold up under all that contact. HAIII is way better for square threads.

SRK clones with pointy threads are impossible to keep anodized though - got a few and all shoe bare spots to some extent, many make electrical contact.

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maukka wrote:
The lube on mine was pretty much nonexistent.
Well I was not sure either but there was something glimmering in the threads so I thought there might have been a few molecules of lube.
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The Miller wrote:
Of course you are all too kind.

I noticed the title of the thread now says “production halted..”. For those of us that are sitting on the fence because of some of the minor issues raised, should we place our order now if these issues don’t concern us too much. I am just mindful the coupon deadline is less than a week away? Thanks.

I already bought a pack of 4 30Q from banggood too, which was already shipped a couple of days ago. Mind you, there is no guarantee I will receive them due to )*%)#(% Australian customs!

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TWODOLLARBILL would you mind letting us know if you indeed get a actual tracking movement on the Q8 that you purchased on September 15th from Ali Express? That would be very helpful.
Thanks

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My Q8 has arrived to my country. May get it Monday or Tuesday depending the customs processing.

2017-09-22 15:38

TR, Arrived at processing centre (inward office of exchange)

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…Even the ‘good’ one on the left looks bad to me… No wonder they get stripped – there does not seem to be much surface area for the screw driver head to act properly?

That’s part of the problem. It looks like a phillips that is a little wallowed out. Reports are that it’s actually a JIS.


I can confirm this
all the screws fit perfectly to my JK-CRV +3.0 screwdriver

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Joey Adams wrote:
TWODOLLARBILL would you mind letting us know if you indeed get a actual tracking movement on the Q8 that you purchased on September 15th from Ali Express? That would be very helpful. Thanks

Here is the latest update I have in the order details section:
2017.09.19 03:42 (GMT-7): 【GuangDongShengShenZhenShi SHENZHEN 】Despatch from Sorting Center

I’ll update if a new posting appears.

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Lexel wrote:
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…Even the ‘good’ one on the left looks bad to me… No wonder they get stripped – there does not seem to be much surface area for the screw driver head to act properly?

That’s part of the problem. It looks like a phillips that is a little wallowed out. Reports are that it’s actually a JIS.


I can confirm this
all the screws fit perfectly to my JK-CRV +3.0 screwdriver


So Thorfire bought a bunch of Japanese screws and are tightening them with American screwdrivers?

Looking at the pics earlier of the Q8 driver, they seem like Philips head to me. My eyes are probably wrong, though.

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twodollarbill][quote=Joey Adams wrote:
TWODOLLARBILL would you mind letting us know if you indeed get a actual tracking movement on the Q8 that you purchased on September 15th from Ali Express? That would be very helpful. Thanks

Here is the latest update I have in the order details section:
2017.09.19 03:42 (GMT-7): 【GuangDongShengShenZhenShi SHENZHEN 】Despatch from Sorting Center

I’ll update if a new posting appears.[/quote

The Miller, the above is making it clear that his shipping info, if fake, is very elaborate don’t you think? I have never heard of a bogus tracking number showing actual movement. Tired

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Considering all the great reports regarding the first batch (and ignoring what i consider very minor issues) i just placed the order for my second Q8 (#1645) – along with a few BT 30Qs of course.

The SRK style soda can light is back… with a vengeance! Evil
Amazing work and result by all involved in this project. Thanks a lot!

My first is still back order… while some already have more then two to play with. Crying
Hopefully the second batch will include a few improvements.

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I received my Q8 yesterday. It is excellent. Thanks to all the folks who made this project happen.

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bella-headlight wrote:

The Q8“S next to my 2 UF“s Wink

Oh, I’ve got that UF – I assumed the Q8 would be the same size. That’s a nice surprise (for me) that it will be that much smaller!

How did you do the colored bezels on the UF’s?

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Lexel wrote:
… I guess the M3 screws for the driver were a mistake when they machined the heads someone placed there a M3 thread instead M2.5, miscommunication?

So you’re saying that I was probably right when I said that the screw threads on the right (production) looked damaged?

Plenty of people told me I was wrong – nevermind the fact that part of my job is to examine damaged fasteners just like that…

I’ll repost it just to be childish. Silly

sac02 wrote:
Tom E wrote:

I measured 2.91 mm on the threads, so think they are 3M. The protos were 2.5M.


From left to right: proto round 2, proto round 3, production:



The driver PCB holes are much smaller than with round 2, so you basically are threading the screw thru the driver PCB. No bevels in the drill holes

The pic is a bit fuzzy, but those threads on the production screws look badly damaged/stripped. Which makes me worried about the threads in the aluminum body (which is softer than even the worst Chinesium steel screws).

I’ve seen so many striped fasteners in Chinese goods, I should really quit my job and go over there with a boat full of electric torque tools and make a million bucks selling them, ‘cause they obviously have never heard of such a thing.

“Torque? What’s that?”
“Crossthread? Never heard of it.”
“Just ram it home.”

^ China manufacturing standardized work instructions.

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Got mine today. Its awesome! Immediately one of my favorite lights. This is my first “SRK” of any sort, although I do have other soda-can lights, but I really like this style. Its slightly larger than something like the Meteor but I love the reflectors, so its well worth the size trade-off. Honestly at 40 bucks I almost feel like someone gave me this thing. Its a lot of light for the money!

No issues other than those that are already known. Like most everyone else, my switch LEDs are out of balance, brighter on one side:

And like someone else reported, my tailspring board screws were coated with some sort of threadlocker. In fact mine had so much I had to apply heat to one screw to get it out without rounding off the head. I cleaned it off of course but to my eye it didn’t make much difference. A meter might tell a different tale, but if I can’t tell it in use then does it really matter? Not to me.

My brass positive contact was also pretty dirty, but honestly I just think that proves they tested it first Smile

Soldering on the driver looks good. Mine was covered in some dust too, like someone else reported, because the screws used to hold the driver in are too large for the hole, so they have to cut their way through. Doesn’t seem to hurt anything though:

But my threads are awesome, very smooth and well lubed. In fact all my ano seems to be great, no issues there:

And my emitters are very very close to centered, close enough to not matter, with no sign of dirt or fingerprints on the reflector or lens:

Oh, and about those unbalanced switch LEDs? Well someone said blue/pink a few days ago and I thought that sounded like a good idea, so I took it for my own Smile My camera basically refuses to photo this pink properly, its much more saturated in person, but hopefully you get the idea. This is great! Smile

I’ve got nothing at all to complain about here. Performance is great, the UI is fantastic (but I already knew that, not my first Narsil light), build quality seems top-shelf. All-in-all this light is nothing but a home run. Thanks so much to all who worked to make this happen.

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Unisex lighting - sounds ol' school nowadays... smile You guys convinced me though - gotta try it. I got blues, pinks, yellows, whites, oranges, reds, UV/purple, but no combos.

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Janky driver screw

Album of screws/grim
All the screws were grimey, non of them were stripped out. Used slight downward pressure while unscrewing, They were not tight or difficult to get out, could have been tighter. I reinstalled them tighter then they were with out stripping the screws.

A little glue/grime what ever on the PCB mounting location. Wiped off easily with some orange cleaner.

The screwdriver bit I used fit snug, no play. No size/type markings on the bit I used.

I would have liked to gone further to see if the driver area needed cleaning up, But couldn’t get the button ring/cover off Flat Stare

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Receipt update:

2 ordered, 2 arrived, no damage.
My body threads didn’t line up with head either. Not an issue for me.
Button lights equally bright. Very green.
Both lights functioned well. Easy to use.
Much brighter than expected. !!!! Uniformly bright/same tint.
Nice beam pattern for style of light. Compared to my other soda can lights.

Outstanding value and THANK YOU to all involved in production, testing and designing.

Not being dismissive of other’s issues, just informing on my experience.

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Joey Adams][quote=twodollarbill wrote:
Joey Adams wrote:
TWODOLLARBILL would you mind letting us know if you indeed get a actual tracking movement on the Q8 that you purchased on September 15th from Ali Express? That would be very helpful. Thanks

Here is the latest update I have in the order details section:
2017.09.19 03:42 (GMT-7): 【GuangDongShengShenZhenShi SHENZHEN 】Despatch from Sorting Center

I’ll update if a new posting appears.[/quote

The Miller, the above is making it clear that his shipping info, if fake, is very elaborate don’t you think? I have never heard of a bogus tracking number showing actual movement. Tired


Interesting for sure. Don’t want to make anyone do the opposite of what I advice “order and forget” but following it of course.
It is a bit amusing, I feel inclined to dare you to a bet that I think this Q8 will not arrive before a week after Thorfire has started production again (I have 3 arrived AliExpress orders today, when I marked them delivered, two of them showed the first of the four pictures green (shipped out) but the little airplane pics were not green (in app) and the third said “no tracking available.)
I see you are having a hard time, so despite being against betting, shall we do a bet? That way IF it arrives sooner you have a win moment and can smile about it, good idea no? Here is my proposal.
If you win you can order a flashlight related item at Gearbest or Banggood of which I pay max or the first $20 OR you say I can donate $20 to help Mrs Lumens (Valerie), and if I win you donate $20 via PayPal to PinkPanda for Mrs Lumens.
Yeah let’s flip it around and make it good for you whatever happens Smile
Joey Adams wrote:
TM have you had anything in the way of news from thorfire.

To be honest I am so happy it is weekend.
Thorfire said they want a whole new switch assembly.
Introduction of a totally new part is not something one wants at this stage. Just matched (same bin) SMD LEDs, good resistor and good soldering should solve it, but the new board with two resistors is (if well executed) better.
So DEL is specifying the parts but a day to contemplate is good to have.

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Sadly i suffered from a bout of premature charging last night, i should know better than to not get my hopes up too high with Danish postal involved. Facepalm

I expected another parcel, and on that i paid customs yesterday, and this mean i always get the parcel the day after.

BUT ! as it turned out that only happen when i pay my customs late in the afternoon, if i pay it 5 – 6 hour before like i did yesterday then it get shipped out same day but do not arrive the day after Tired
Where as if i pay late in the afternoon the parcel get moving around midnight, pass 1 hub around 3 – 4 AM and then arrive in my town in the morning around 7 AM and i can pick up my parcel at the post office most often around 9 in the morning.

So that’s the last time i pay my customs early cuz i have paid late the past 25 parcels and those i could all pick up the next day.

No telling where the hell this country is going, but its not in the right direction that’s for damn sure.

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xCentrino wrote:
... I would have liked to gone further to see if the driver area needed cleaning up, But couldn't get the button ring/cover off :|

That's weird - maybe they used a little dab of glue because of that stubby screw. Might want to try prying with a hook tool, or something similar but careful not to damage threads. What I'd do is thread the 2 screws back in partially, so only in the PCB, then grab onto one with a small pliers and try pulling it up.

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Tom E wrote:

xCentrino wrote:
… I would have liked to gone further to see if the driver area needed cleaning up, But couldn’t get the button ring/cover off Flat Stare

That’s weird – maybe they used a little dab of glue because of that stubby screw. Might want to try prying with a hook tool, or something similar but careful not to damage threads. What I’d do is thread the 2 screws back in partially, so only in the PCB, then grab onto one with a small pliers and try pulling it up.

The driver can be pulled out some with just the two driver screws removed? The driver wasn’t stuck at all, moved freely with the screws removed, I just thought I needed to get the button switch screw/cover off.

Edit: was able to pull out the driver, was fairly clean, put it all back together and not touching it anymore. No want to break it Big Smile

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Got mine today Big Smile

First of all, a big thank you for the Q8 team that made this all possible, it’s a very nice flashlight, i really like the ramping mode on it, and it has a nice and decent feel to it. And although i only got 2 battery’s at the moment (new one’s are still to arrive), is produces a lot of light Shocked

I have been a (very) silent member, i read the most part of the Q8 tread here non the less. I received all the three Q8’s i did order, relating to the problems people have i can report:

- 2 of the flashlights don’t have equal lighting in the switch, the last one is fine

- also the three lights here have a “dirty” copper ring, but we can clean this, no problem Smile

- One light has a very small dent, bearably visible (sorry for the photo quality, don’t have a decent camera available here at the moment)

- One has a small “dent” inside

Here you can also see a little bit of dust other people are talking about, i wiped the top clean with my finger, but there is a lot of dust left. I think i am going to disassemble them to get them clean.

- Although all three got dents in the rear inside part, when the springs are

I don’t really see them as a problem, dents are on the inside, and are not likely to cause any problems. Just to point at some point’s where possible improvement is possible for the future. Although i am very interested to know what is causing the problem with the switch lights. If there is a solution to this problem i would be happy to order a spare part or pcb to replace them, even if it would cost a few dollars. It would also be nice if they would dim a little bit more, they are quite shiny. Maybe i will look into it some more, i replace them myself (soldering a led of resistor is not a real problem for me), only i don’t have the knowledge to see out the parts i need.

This weekend friend of mine will pick up his Q8 i did order for him, i think he is also going to be very happy LOL

Thanks again Q8 team! I’m going to try to be more active here (although i live a very busy life), and i will certainly report any problems may they come up Wink

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When they get all the wrinkles ironed out, and start selling the lights under their own name,

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Marking/logo “BLF Q8” for the groupbuy, manufacturer can choose own marking/logo afterwards

I suggest they use as a logo: “BLF QC”

It would be a recommendation.

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